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    Today, 05:28 PM
    Ditto. I went to a tiny private HS, and in my class of 27, there were 4 “Davids”, 4 “Johns”/“Jons”, and a “John-David”. They were all referred to by last names or initials. Especially JD. And in college, my group included a bunch of “Brians”, only one of whom was black, so he became “Black Brian.” In a different time & place, I hung out with a group hat had several siblings, as well as...
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    Today, 01:33 PM
    Maybe the literary content, but insofar as the relationship between "literary" and "content" is already a point of contention, I'd rather say that the literary effect or impact was reduced He didn't convey excitement or strong interest in the written text. For his purposes, "it's a generic science fiction orbital station, apply tropes as needed" sufficed, except when zooming in on plot-crucial...
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    Today, 09:40 AM
    If there’s a non-quasimedieval genre most editions of D&D should handle well, it’s Sword & Planet. Maaaaybe you’d want to reskin magic as magitech; spells as gear. Whatever.
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    Today, 08:14 AM
    I'm green with jealousy. How many of the people at the table had read (some or all of) Iliad, Odyssey, Aenead, or similar works? (Or Mary Renault novels?)
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    Today, 08:01 AM
    Okay, if (a) the quality of form isn't important (b) whether (X in-game phenomena) suggest (Y category of room) (for various X and Y) is what's important (c) the content matters (d) the particular words that are used don't matter (e) the way that they are said doesn't matter but "matters" does not include "whether people wish to engage"
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    Yesterday, 08:38 PM
    The combination of Grapple + Shove Prone works fine for me, both cinematically and mechanically.... hmm, except that it doesn't benefit from the grappler going to the mat *with* the target, and perhaps it should.
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    Yesterday, 06:33 PM
    Interesting point. I'd guess that it also matters how many of the choices are front-loaded. In AD&D you have X choices to make, before you have a playable entry-level character and can make your first action declaration to specific events in the scenario. In 5E D&D you have Y choices to make. Which is greater, X or Y? How many choices does it take to make a PC for Pathfinder, Savage Words, GURPS,...
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    Yesterday, 05:26 PM
    Most of your post is invisible to some of us. Here’s why, and how to fix it. https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?348563-Dark-Text-on-a-Dark-Background-Tutorial
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    Yesterday, 05:11 AM
    So noted. A game which rates higher on "complexity" isn't necessarily more "the game you want" than a game which rates lower; if you're looking for a game to run with children, the reverse. I'll adjust my usage to metrics. (I will only rate a game on metics, if it's set in ancient Athens.)
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    Yesterday, 04:24 AM
    Ah, correction accepted. I'm talking about DDEX 1-10, "Tyranny in Phlan", and not about "Tyranny of Dragons". Thank you.
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    Yesterday, 04:19 AM
    I have no opinion on whether that action would add anything to thread; no one has done the action which you just now described, not as you describe it. Ovinomancer made an assertion which I considered untrue, and I challenged that assertion. I made no statement about what Hriston *intended*; I repeated a quote of Hriston's words, *exactly as written*. You can try to "stir the pot" between me...
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    Yesterday, 03:34 AM
    I ran most of the AL Season 1 adventures, some at a store game and some as a home game. I have read, but not played, "Tyranny of Dragons". Here's my thought: the AL Season 1 adventures can be fun, one by one, but they don't actually tell the DM much about the cult as a whole. They'll name, and stat-block, one cultist, so that the PCs can intercept that cultist and foil that cultist's specific...
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    Yesterday, 02:52 AM
    Perhaps someone designing this system could produce multiple versions. Version A asks six questions. Version B asks six questions, three of which overlap with Version A. Issue both versions. Have people rate games. See if those ratings are useful to others. Ask those who read the ratings: if your first awareness of a game was its rating, and then you played the game, did your experience of the...
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    Yesterday, 02:31 AM
    DMG has optional rules for Sanity as a stat, for campaigns with Sanity Loss as a horror mechanic (*cough* Call of Cthulhu *cough*). A bad trip could cause Sanity loss. One of the PCs in my regular group has profiency with alchemy kit and an interest in the mushrooms of the Underdank which includes recreational usage. He's a Light domain cleric, whose go-to offensive action is channel divinity...
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    Yesterday, 02:17 AM
    I sense the presence of some useful angles on the questions at hand. I also can't sort out the meaning of some of your sentences. I'm amused that I'm having this problem, in a conversation which has gone round and round on form versus content. I want to understand your points. In #2: In how many of those cases, did the GM have a strong track record of success with systems they knew well, then...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 07:43 PM
    Thank you for correcting my brain fart!
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 05:43 PM
    Same!
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 05:42 PM
    That’s odd.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:48 AM
    I have extensive notes on a never-run post-apocalyptic 3.5Ed fantasy campaign, based in part on: Other elements included races altered by the events that created the new world’s realities: a Cyberman/Dalek-like race of Dwarf/Warforged; only 3 kinds of “elf” (loosely described as starry, shadowy, planty); orcs with translucent flesh; a different take on Planetouched, etc. Because...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:37 AM
    Nit-picking: do you mean that AD&D *across the board* was less lethal at high levels, or do you mean that *combat* was less lethal at high levels? If exploration remains lethal at high levels - traps, random diseases, and so forth - while combat drops in lethality, then that might shift the relative proportions of player interest in the three pillars. "If I solve this puzzle, then we can bypass...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:28 AM
    Hello to all the new people!
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:25 AM
    After cooking late last night, I had some of my shortribs late TONIGHT, with my mom and I splitting a rib, the meat spread on pieces of toasted Italian rustic bread. IOW, real fancy SOS. :lol: Tell you want, though: this core recipe is good. The meat was literally fall-off-the-bone tender; the sauce, flavorful. Unanimous winner! https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/red-wine-braised-short-ribs...
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  • Riley37's Avatar
    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 06:41 AM
    Here's my reasoning: Sorcerer 5/Bard 9 has 7th level spell slots, but can only learn spells on the bard list up to 5th level. (The PC can gain benefits according to "when you cast this spell with a larger spell slot".) This, so far, is RAW. He can gaze longingly at Symbol, or any other of the 7th level spells on the Bard list, and think "I have a spell slot big enough for you!" but he can't...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 06:07 AM
    Hey, if you have questions about anyone's assertions about who is or isn't a jerk, then please take them up with Ovinomancer, not with me. That's his topic, not mine. If you want to defend the rigorous factual accuracy of Ovinomancer's assertion "Literally no one in this thread has said otherwise", then good luck with that. I doubt that you'll earn his gratitude; but I've been wrong before. ...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 05:26 AM
    If you don't cast spells which use CHA modifier for attack roll nor saving throw DC, if you rely on Booming and/or Green Flame, with Hex to boost damage... and you use a bow when you need ranged attacks, rather than Eldritch Blast... then prioritizing DEX over CHA is viable.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 05:11 AM
    True, and a useful salient point. I once ran a TRPG as part of an elective writing class for a middle school. The PCs went into a jungle, and fought various mutated monsters along the way to the source of the mutation: the ruins of a secret nuclear and chemical weapons lab... and a surviving scientist who'd developed a (lots of hand-waving here) symbiotic micro-organism which enabled plants...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 04:17 AM
    I agree with what you're saying here! Your position and perspective as a whole, are more nuanced, more flexible, less absolutist, than this one thing you happened to say, somewhere back along the way: "In other words, it’s the actual content that matters, not the particular words that are used and the way they are said." Even so, when Ovinomancer denied that anyone had said any such thing -...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:54 AM
    Does your "numerous" includes CPRGs? You apparently haven't played anything in Hero System (XP by story arc), nor anything using Chaosium's "Basic Role Playing" mechanics such as Call of Cthulhu (skill improvement by skill use), nor Traveller, nor Shadowrun, nor anything from White Wolf. Or maybe you've played numerous and diverse games, all at the same DM's table, all following that DM's...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:31 AM
    I have never played the first edition of RQ, and I don't know anyone who played it as it was originally written: as a TRPG set in Homeric myth. I'd love to give that a try! I have played the Glorantha version of RQ, that is to say, RQ as it became popular, with a setting more easily understood by a general audience. Talking ducks and so forth. One session was mostly ho-hum, with players who...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:22 AM
    I haven’t played RuneQuest proper, but have played other games that used the core system, like Stormbringer. I’d say it’s a relatively fun system to use.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:17 AM
    Apologies mean more and go further, when you also stop practicing the behavior for which you apologize. I did not miss that. Hriston said what he said, in the words he used. You can stand by your assertion that no one has said any such thing; you can walk it back; or you can deflect, dodge, distract and dissemble. I only rarely see a "no one is saying that" claim which holds up to...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 02:52 AM
    And of course, the old classic from Uncle Miltie: “Take my wife...please!”
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 02:46 AM
    So you see the image? All I see is the https code and the IMG tags, in brackets.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 01:54 AM
    I cannot rule out that possibility, not this side of the actual experience. I can extrapolate from past experience, such as the incident I mentioned earlier. I was happy and proud that I had accomplished my goal (stopping the original attacker), without paying the price of my life, or even any bloodshed; I also, in an overlapping interval, got the shakes. Here's a hot take: humans vary. ...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 01:29 AM
    You need the step by step? Can do! You asserted the following, in reference to Imaro's assertion about communication of content: Imaro then quoted Hriston asserting that only content matters, without regard to what words communicate that content. So if you still stand by your "no one in this thread has said otherwise" assertion, does your assertion now stipulate that when you said...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 01:05 AM
    I'll believe that when I hear it from the management. There are opinions one may not express on EN World; but one can *hold* them, as long as one can refrain from expressing them openly, while chatting merrily about how to optimize a sorcerer-warlock. I may benefit from a Klan sympathizer's advice about how to optimize the sorcerer-warlock, and I may or may not ever learn about the differences...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 12:27 AM
    If your DM is reluctant to agree to "you start with a pseudo-dragon familiar", then you might bargain by giving up something else. You could, for example, choose Variant Human, and home-brew a custom feat, such as the "Has a Pseudo-Dragon Familiar" feat. As a DM, I would probably counter-offer: you will start play without one, and I promise that within the first dozen sessions, there will be...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 12:13 AM
    If by "these systems" you mean D&D and Pathfinder, then mostly yes. Though at various points in the last four decades, some people have worked, within those systems, in other directions. Scholar or diplomat as a playable class, for example. 5E D&D recognizes combat as one of three pillars. Combat is the pillar with the most, and most detailed, mechanical support. In 5E, a character who gains...
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 11:16 PM
    I'm not yet willing to rule out "category error" as the more correct answer. Is light a particle endeavor?
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:59 PM
    Hard disagree. You have clear evidence that SOME of us aren't OK with sex in RPGs. Do not confuse "some of us" with "all of us". That leads to treating the rest of us as "not really us", which is all too often a step towards humanity at its worst.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 09:24 PM
    Just tried posting a gif; no joy. Here’s the one I tried. I’ve had “file too large” problems with gifs before using the image attachment button, and found that the old IMG in brackets still worked fine. Not this time; note even the command brackets are visible. Could it be related?
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 09:17 PM
    I’m using the black background.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 08:36 PM
    When you quote a post, any quotes embedded within it do not appear within the body of the quoted post.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 07:26 PM
    Color formatting is the problem in some way. I can see the quote exists, but the formatting makes it invisible.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 06:24 PM
    Interesting. When I went back to your quote and looked in your post using the .edit feature, I could plainly see the color control had been formatted in, namely “COLOR=#333333”, right after the “QUOTE”. Can you not see that?
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 02:59 PM
    Keanu sounds so excited to be part of the game.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:54 AM
    So why are you replying to my four-word (and a link) post, rather than replying directly to the 400-word post? Perhaps because I said the same thing, but more elegantly, and you hope to elicit further elegant responses, by engaging with me rather than with the anti-paladin?
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:47 AM
    You have told us the problem with this thread. Well done. Would you like a biscuit? Or some other form of recognition? I know the problem with D&D, and I still play D&D. I know the problem with cheese, and I still eat cheese. I know the problem with this thread, and I still post in this thread.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:11 AM
    The range of what ten people consider "literary" English has arisen on another thread. Arisen, or perhaps descended. At least I've learned a new phrase: "high Gygaxian". I have my doubts about whatever design team developed the English language. I hope it was delivered on time, for a low cost, because it sure isn't winning any prizes for ease of use, nor for internal documentation.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 08:56 AM
    On one hand, EN World is for gamers regardless of political allegiances, and for all I know, some of us (in this thread or otherwise) have a positive opinion of the KKK while others have a negative opinion of the KKK; there are differences we "check at the door" or take to PM. On another hand, bravo for standing your ground on "knight", and (if I infer accurately) for succeeding.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 08:43 AM
    Most parents, yes. I am an oddball, or outlier, in feeling *less* comfort with sanitization. Years ago, I was watching a group of children, ages maybe 8 to 12, while their parents were having a meeting, and I played a VHS of "Star Wars". I hadn't planned this in advance, but right after the PCs escape the Death Star, on impulse, I hit PAUSE, and asked: What emotions Luke does Luke show,...
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 08:28 AM
    Perhaps you have taught your children that danger and morally questionable choices are best left to adults. IMO, this is good parenting of five-year-olds. If your children's off-the-cuff response to "you see something moving in the windows of an abandoned house" is "find Daddy and tell him", so much the better. Have you tried games written for young players, such as "No Thanks Evil"?
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 08:18 AM
    Yes. On the first page, I raised a distinction between colonialist and non-colonialist violence. AD&D has a colonialist endgame: at Name Level, a PC can build a keep and kill all monsters around it, with the result that peasants show up, build farms, and pay taxes to the PCs. Celebrim and I may disagree on whether that constitutes colonialism, and whether that's the default context for Keep on...
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 07:28 AM
    Now that you mention it, DC Universe RPG and Marvel Universe RPG are also both non-starters for me.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 05:50 AM
    Alright, Ovinomancer, please issue a ruling: Should I evaluate Hriston's assertion only according to its literal content? Or does context change the value of its content? Is it true... from a certain point of view? That is, the point of view, which equates Hriston with nobody? Archaic allusion time:
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 05:40 AM
    Of course, you should capture it; "that belongs in a museum". You'll have to use AD&D rules on subdual. You might even resort to AD&D rules on morale checks and/or grappling. It's a horror monster; and those rules do Sanity damage, direct to the players. Actually, you should *start* by luring it into a museum. Once it's inside, its 12" move will traverse 120 feet, rather than the battlefield...
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 05:37 AM
    Have you played my new TRPG, "Floor Waxes & Dessert Toppings"? Further dilemmas: Is light primarily a particulate endeavor? 👋
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 05:08 AM
    No narration! Only framing! See also: No take! Only throw! https://imgur.com/gallery/q46L4QH
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 04:08 AM
    You do a Disco Poke, with exactly enough accuracy to hit AC 13. Duh. https://www.buzzfeed.com/leonoraepstein/19-disco-moves-that-could-beat-someone-up
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 04:01 AM
    HERO 1) Flexibility 2) Flexibility 3) Flexibility Been playing in that system since it was released as Champions in 1981, and have yet to have a PC concept I couldn’t model in it.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 03:52 AM
    Congrats to the Dallas Stars and New Jersey Devils! Also, nice job St. Louis Blues.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 01:08 AM
    Hackmaster 4E was AD&D 1E with stuff from the comic added. 5E was an entirely new system after Kenzerco lost the license to 1E. It was significantly different. /not really helpful but I felt compelled to respond. :erm:
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:11 PM
    "With all those idiots and maniacs on the road, it's a wonder we get anywhere at all!" - George Carlin It's a wonder; and it's humans actively working with each other, in speech just as on the freeways. It's possible for people to work with each other during less-conversational communication. If a DM is trying for a fancy description, and failing, it's often possible for a player to...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 02:25 PM
    Ouch. What game(s) are playable, in your opinion? Because I am interested in games that aren't too complex or that involve narrative control. Retro Clones?
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 10:12 AM
    Tonguez I’ve played Sim Ant (and other early Sim games) and Pandemic- they’re not RPGs, so I’m unclear as to your point.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 10:07 AM
    I have to say I am one of those people who ran a Space:1889 campaign in a different system...HERO. But the major reason for that is I used the setting as a backdrop for a supers game. For the most part, D&D 5Ed lost me in the playtest reports stage, coupled with Adventurer League threads here on ENWorld. When I finally got my hands on the books in a store? Well, that was the final nail in...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 09:50 AM
    Some commenters have raised analogies to summarized information about cars and houses. People generally buy one car at a time, out of many options, and one house at a time, out of several or many options. So is this proposed system also meant to inform purchase choices? A system for comparing TRPGs might be useful for informing choices about registering for convention games. I might prefer a...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:52 AM
    It may just be me, but what matters to me depends on all kinds of things. Worse yet, those things can change depending on other things. ...which is why I’ve invested so much $$$ in so many different RPG systems. ...and why- even though HERO is my favorite system, and I feel I can model whatever I want with it- I prefer other systems for other kinds of games. I mean I have actually done...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:40 AM
    Never played it, seen it, nor heard of it, to the best of my recollection. The devil, as always, is in the details. A simulationist version of it would be extremely difficult to design...and probably enjoy. (But might work just fine as a boardgame.)
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:33 AM
    Pretty early on, actually. Boot Hill hit in 1975. Traveller In 1977, as did Superhero 2044. Champions in 1981. All still had violence, of course.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:27 AM
    I've played Fiasco once, at a convention. No fight scenes, no chase scenes. Conflict, but at other levels. I suspect that we actually *could* use the Fiasco rules set for a fun session about rival venture capitalists (some of us cutting more corners than others). IMO a game of plants competing for nutrients - or perhaps exchanging nutrients sometimes, via interconnected root systems - would...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 08:21 AM
    IMO there are fine lines on some axes, and wide gaps on other axes. I've enjoyed sparring, which is a form of violence, though intentionally and drastically limited violence; we were trying to *hit* each other, just not for significant damage. It was fun happy combat. It was different from colonialist massacre of women and children. I've used physical violence once in my adult life, to stop...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 07:56 AM
    Most of us play RPGs for some kind of adventure. Adventure requires some kind of dramatic potential. Dramatic potential comes from conflict. And for most people, violence is the simplest form of conflict to model and relate to. It’s a universal theme. Theoretically, someone could do nonviolent RPGs based on being successful stock brokers, venture capitalists, rival art schools, or plants...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 07:39 AM
    Your quote is blacked out. Here’s why, and how to fix it.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 07:38 AM
    Or interpretive dance. Or pictures drawn with crayons. That's also a viable option. Unfortunately, the scene in "Hush" episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in which the gang play D&D, with Giles as DM, was cut from the broadcast.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 04:32 AM
    Flying ad-hominems abounding? Profanity filter triggering? Opening of painful personal or near-personal wounds? Methinks it’s time to put this one down...until it rises again.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 03:00 AM
    if you were hoping for new IPs directly from Beth and not one of the studios under them, then yeah everyone knew going in since they stated before E3 started that there wasn't going to be any news regarding Elder Scrolls 6 or Starfield,so it sounds like you set yourself up to be disappointed.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 01:02 AM
    Human Occupied Landfill, aka HoL. "Although HoL is playable, it was meant as a satire of RPGs. The pages of the books are written by hand, and the authors freely take stabs at other popular role-playing games, particularly Vampire: The Masquerade and Dungeons & Dragons, and those who play them." --Wikipedia
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 12:46 AM
    Well, we're fortunate that no one *here* is attention seeking. Gosh, that would sure be awful; if someone made himself the focus of this thread, that could distract us from thinking about those players in Rolfe's game, and how UK Expo 2019 shifted their experience of TRPG, and whether that's an experience anyone should take active steps to prevent from re-occurring.
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 12:38 AM
    Like this? https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659737-Players-distressed-by-gang-rape-role-playing-game/page37#post7618947
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 12:36 AM
    Hints and innuendos. He's just *wondering* what's going on. What's wrong with wondering? How could anyone object to his curiosity? Open minds, right? He didn't say that THOSE adults were engaged in manipulation. He's aware, of course, that some people have used tears for manipulation. "People have, at various times and places in the last thousand years, used tears for manipulation" is a perfectly...
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    Wednesday, 12th June, 2019, 12:32 AM
    Umm, let's see now. What I said was that Bethesda brought nothing new to the table. Fallout 76 isn't new, and we already knew there's going to be a steady supply of stuff coming for it, E3 or not. Ghostwire isn't made by Bethesda. Neither is Deathloop. Doom Eternal we already knew about (theres's been gameplay videos posted of it for months by players), and they already made the "story...
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    Tuesday, 11th June, 2019, 11:35 PM
    That is indeed a valid point. I don't see all posts, because of blocking; so the numbering in MY browser view, is not the same as the numbering in yours. The full, unblocked count is the more universal and appropriate reference for directing a participant back to a previous post. I cannot blame BRG for confusion on that particular point. I don't think it would make a difference, in eventual...
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  • 02:26 PM - lowkey13 mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    Hi Everybody! (HI DR. NICK!) Now tell Dr. Nick where is the trouble. ...so, @Dannyalcatraz first pointed out a problem in my posts, specifically, this one- https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659985-Why-are-we-okay-with-violence-in-RPGs&p=7618903&viewfull=1#post7618903 Since then, two other commenters have noted the same problem. @pemerton @Manbearcat Q. What is the problem? A. I don't know- I can't see it! Everything looks good to me. But it looks like, from what is in Danny's post- https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659985-Why-are-we-okay-with-violence-in-RPGs&p=7619116&viewfull=1#post7619116 That my "quotes" are disappearing. It seems that pemerton reports it as a text formatting issue. So, I think this is recent? Maybe an "https:" change? And it's not universal ... it looks fine to me. Quotes that I use from someone else seem fine ... I think it might just be a combination of: Using the "quote" feature around text that I paste into the text box, and paste as "plain text formatting" (in order to avoid html issues). But I'd like the Powers Th...

Tuesday, 11th June, 2019

  • 08:18 PM - Gradine mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    ...e time raising public accountability for those who might have otherwise given his behavior a pass. "or when we recklessly pursue a moral program of some kind in the wake of such an event" To be clear, the "moral program" in question is "rape = not acceptable". lowkey13 has covered this in better detail, but you are bringing moral relativism to an argument that is mostly centered around sexualized violence. Call both sides equally bad in their extremism is a false equivalence of the dangerous. "People who spring rape scenarios on players and then lie about in an interview with the guy who wrote 'In Defense of Rape' should not be allowed to be in our hobby" is not the moral or extreme equivalent to "LOL great job owning the libs!" and the latter are explicitly counting on well meaning people making that mistake. "I think there is a lot of cruelty being expressed in this thread and people don't see it, because they think they are so correct. Personally I am not a big fan of cruelty." Dannyalcatraz covered this in a point I see you have not responded to yet, in that: Foreseeable repercussions for actions =/= cruelty. I don't really have anything else to add to that.

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Sunday, 14th April, 2019

  • 12:04 AM - doctorbadwolf mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post How do YOU handle a Fastball Special, and other team manuevers?
    You . . . might want to scroll up a bit, and then maybe apologise to DannyAlcatraz. - He was directly discussing accuracy of such throws with HawkDiesel, which is where the possibility of missing a throw would be being discussed. You were the first person to start talking about balls. DannyAlcatraz was discussing caber and hammer throws. Not balls. A ball of equivalent weight would be much harder to throw than a caber or hammer to equivalent distance - even harder than a humanoid. If you’re just going to twist what people say to “win” internet argument points, find someone else. I couldn’t be more bored by such nonsense. You’ve misunderstood my response, actually. The hammer throw is a ball at the end of a chain, and the other major example ITT is a “weight” which is just a heavy ball with a handle. To the other element of the reply in question, he stated to hawk that it is very possible that such objects cannot be thrown accurately. I argued that there is no particular reason to beleive that is true. He replied as if I’d said that people don’t ever mi...

Friday, 12th April, 2019

  • 04:04 PM - doctorbadwolf mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post How do YOU handle a Fastball Special, and other team manuevers?
    ...My only concern is what fits the tone of the fiction. Throwing somebody up* is vastly different than throwing them horizontally, mitigated proportionally by the weight difference between thrower and throwee. Newton's 3rd law and all. *In the vertical projectile sense, not the regurgitation sense. Realistically, the thrower in a “running start assisted horizontal leap” maneuver would proabably fall prone as part of launching the throwee. Or at least, have to use their movement to not fall prone, which is the same thing in terms of resources. I’m not sure I care enough about simulation to bother with that, but it’s worth noting. However, your first statement is spot on. We don’t make players enumerate what feats of athletic and acrobatic prowess they have practiced, we just sail by that, for all manner of stuff that requires tons of practice and/or training. I’m not gonna worry about how much training something requires irl when determining how to adjudicate it in game. edit: Dannyalcatraz I don’t think that there is any significant chance that a ball can’t be thrown accurately. Balls are aerodynamic. Distance would suffer, but it’s almost certainly possible. As for the idea idea that a single person performing the maneuver in the video might not walk again...come on, man. You’re wildly speculating. More likely, they fall over at worst, and they’d have to have some bigger team members and only throw the smallest members in that manner. Performing that maneuver with someone whose mass is half your own would not be soemthing with a more significant risk of injury than simply lifting heavy things, or running full speed in full gear, which are things I doubt any of us make any sort of issue of in game.
  • 07:53 AM - Hawk Diesel mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post How do YOU handle a Fastball Special, and other team manuevers?
    Dannyalcatraz You make some good points regarding the caber toss and the weight throw. But a there are a few pieces I think you might be missing. 1) These movements and competitions are not meant for accuracy, and so good technique does not stress it except to make the throw within the particular inbounds area. Nor are time constraints typically a factor in normal competition. While throws made with such weights with accuracy and/speed would surely suffer in distance, that does not mean that inventive individuals could not develop new throwing techniques that better balance accuracy with distance. 2) These competitions use ideal throwing implements. But the implements do not have any input into the execution of the throw. If we are talking about launching a person, and that person is as practiced at being launched as the thrower is at launching a person, then there may be opportunities and techniques made by both the thrower and throwee that improve distance and accuracy. So long as the throwe...

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  • 08:30 PM - Satyrn mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post What do you call it when...
    Is there a name for that thing where someone fully quotes a 20 paragraph post, and then types a one line response below it? In this scenario, the response is germane (i.e. not "Me too!"), it's just that the length of the quoted text is completely gratuitous to the point of distracting from the response/discussion. Because most of my responses are one-liners, I'm sure I've been guilty of this. But the alternative, shortening the quote to the single line or paragraph that I'm responding to, gets viewed negatively here, too, and I would not be surprised to discover that @Dannyalcatraz has fielded reports about me doing that.

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Monday, 11th March, 2019

  • 10:38 AM - Hussar mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    I have a friend who could be described as having an east-Asian fetish, Japan specifically (Weaboo, I think the term is). I don't think there is a racist bone in her body, and she is highly respectful of Japanese culture. There's more to it than that though. Even Dannyalcatraz, who I believe is black, when asked where is he from, would not be repeatedly questioned when he answered New Orleans. No one else seems to get this blank stare of disbelief as when an Asian American or Asian Canadian states that they are Canadian. Like I said, that video resonates really, really well. It's an ongoing thing and it happens all the time. I mean, sure, people in Canada have asked me where I'm from. But, when I say Toronto, they don't then keep asking. Have you ever had complete strangers question you on your nationality? I've seen it repeatedly. And it only ever seems to happen to people of Asian decent. It really is offensive as hell. If you feel the need to question someone's nationality, remember, that person may very well have been questioned fifteen times previously that week and just might not appreciate the sixteenth time. Again, I don't give a fetid dingo's kidney about your friends. Really, really don't. I'm telling you, in no uncertain terms, ...

Sunday, 10th March, 2019

  • 03:16 PM - Aldarc mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    What solution? I don't believe anyone in this thread has proposed a solution - so what exactly are you saying we should be "wary' of? Dannyalcatraz did propose diversifying our depictions of "evil," such as using glowing eyes, which is something that could not be linked to particular human demographics. So apparently we should be wary of the great harm that would befall our noble hobby should such nefarious solutions ever saw the light of day.
  • 02:49 PM - pemerton mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    ...reasonable one.So imagine that you are introducing a young friend or relative to LotR, and you come to this passage (quoted upthread by Doug McCrae): "Frodo saw a dark ill-kept house behind a thick hedge: the last house in the village. In one of the windows he caught a glimpse of a sallow face with sly, slanting eyes; but it vanished at once. ‘So that’s where that southerner is hiding!’ he thought. ‘He looks more than half like a goblin.’" You wouldn't be any more self-conscious reading that to a child of East or Central Asian background, than to someone who was white? You wouldn't be self-conscious at all? You think it's an unreasonable response to see racist ideas in the notion of sly, slanting eye in a sallow (= yellow/brown) face, which - apparently in virtue of these features, as nothing else is mentioned - looks more than half like a goblin, that is, looks sinister and evil? Btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with academic debates and literary criticism. As Dannyalcatraz already mentioned upthread, this is something that 5 year old children of colour will notice. Nor is it particularly related to offence. Who knows, and who cares, whether or not JRRT intended to give offence - I suspect he didn't much think about that at all. And some people of colour may be offended by this, but others may not be - perhaps they're pretty used to it, and maybe they even find JRRT rather tame compared to other experiences they have had. The point that I (and others) have made is about the meaning that JRRT is conveying, and the tropes used to convey it. These present a certain sort of person as of inherently or naturally sly and evil appearance. It is this idea that is racist, and (in some, perhaps loose, sense) an element of "colonialist propaganda" insofar as it is an element of a larger body of 19th and first half of the 20th century racist ideologies. I have no problem being pinned to actual positions that I express misogyny was brought up in this thread, and ...
  • 10:49 AM - pemerton mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    Dannyalcatraz - once again, I appreciate your strong posts on this topic. Although I am white, many of those to whom I am close are not. These issues around representation and racist tropes affect them every day, in just the ways you describe.
  • 12:31 AM - Aebir-Toril mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    I'm sorry Dannyalcatraz I didn't notice that line of Lychee of the Exch.'s post when I XP'd it.

Saturday, 9th March, 2019

  • 03:34 AM - pemerton mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    A friend of mine, who is Black, discovered a copy of Little Black Sambo at her local library, in the children's section. She spoke to the librarian, and explained how much hurt she had suffered from that book as a child. She told the librarian that she didn't want it removed from the library but wanted it shelved differently, so that a new generation wouldn't accidentally stumble across it and have the experience she did. (The bigger context for this being that, when my friend was a child she was one of the few Black people in her Australian suburb, whereas today there are many.) The librarian saw her point and arranged for it to be so. What I am trying to get at is that the notion that care and respect = censorship is in my view far too narrow. This is what I understand Dannyalcatraz and lowkey13 to be saying also. That's not to say that people of good will can always agree on how to go forward and how to engage with the past and the artefacts that it has left us. This is culture, and politics, and so of course there will be passion and disagreement and sometimes harsh words. Even among the like-minded. What I'm trying to get at is that a response of "censorship" or "loss of creatitivy" or "erasure" is one that more often derials than furthers our human endeavours.

Wednesday, 6th March, 2019

  • 10:56 AM - pemerton mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    I think the connection between JRRT's orcs and certain stereotypical presentations of "eastern"/Turkic peoples is fairly self-evident. And what Hussar and Dannyalcatraz have said about the pulp origins of contemporary fantasy is likewise pretty evident. Then there are peculiarities that are distinctive to D&D, like Gygax's Monster Manual describing dwarves as brown but nearly all D&D art depicting them as white.
  • 05:03 AM - Hussar mentioned Dannyalcatraz in post Do orcs in gaming display parallels to colonialist propaganda?
    Let's be honest here, and I think Dannyalcatraz hits it right off, fantasy as a genre started off pretty deep into racist territory. The grand daddy's of fantasy (and a large amount of science fiction as well) weren't exactly the most tolerant of men. And, yup, I'm saying men, since the writers of spec fiction up until the latter half of the 20th century (and WELL into the latter half) were almost universally men. Whether you want to point to Lovecraft or Howard or Burroughs or a host of others, a lot of the initial ideas for fantasy were pretty heavily grounded in strongly racist and misogynistic tendencies. This isn't a secret. So, it's not really surprising when you can see elements of that in D&D. I mean, sure, Drow are just dark skinned evil elves... in BDSM gear... matriarchal, dark skinned, men hating elves in BDSM gear... :uhoh: :D It's not really a stretch here. IMO, the key is to recognize the origins of these things, don't pretend that they aren't there, but, also, as DannyA mentions, there are things ...

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  • 07:21 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    That’s odd. Yeah. I got nothing at this point. I will say that when I do a regular cut and paste from certain comments, the text I paste has a weird semi-border around it which is barely visible. Like this- Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. Not sure if there is a difference with putting it in quotes- Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. I'll just hop over to legacy view ....
  • 05:22 PM - Nutation quoted Dannyalcatraz in post [JOKE] Paraprosdokians
    And of course, the old classic from Uncle Miltie: “Take my wife...please!” Henny Youngman, the classic one-liner.
  • 12:05 PM - Morrus quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Upgraded to https! Please report bugs!
    So you see the image? All I see is the https code and the IMG tags, in brackets. Yep! 107042

Thursday, 13th June, 2019

  • 09:37 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    I’m using the black background. Okay, but WHY are my quotes doing that? :) And why can't I see it in my editing window?
  • 09:07 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    When you quote a post, any quotes embedded within it do not appear within the body of the quoted post. Okay. But what about the whole AC/DC thing going on (Back in Black?).
  • 07:45 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    Color formatting is the problem in some way. I can see the quote exists, but the formatting makes it invisible. Not to add to the mystery, but- 1. I use a white background. So I wouldn't see a problem. It appears that Manbearcat (and you, maybe?) use black ones. 2. However ..... what happened when you quoted my post? Shouldn't your quote of my entire post have caused the text to pop back out, at least on my screen? When I saw you quoting me, the quote was gone. Do you know what I'm saying?
  • 07:41 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    Color formatting is the problem in some way. I can see the quote exists, but the formatting makes it invisible. The former. my color scheme is default text on black background of that helps (I’m computer incompetent so that is the best I got). Weird. Well, when I go to edit it, it doesn't show as being formatted to a particular color?????
  • 06:54 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    Interesting. When I went back to your quote and looked in your post using the .edit feature, I could plainly see the color control had been formatted in, namely “COLOR=#333333”, right after the “QUOTE”. Can you not see that? No. Everything looks absolutely normal to me.

Wednesday, 12th June, 2019

  • 07:28 PM - lowkey13 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Why are we okay with violence in RPGs?
    Your quote is blacked out. Here’s why, and how to fix it. Someone else just told me that my quote is blacked out on a different thread.... I don't see your fix??????
  • 09:23 AM - Tonguez quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Why are we okay with violence in RPGs?
    Never played it, seen it, nor heard of it, to the best of my recollection. The devil, as always, is in the details. A simulationist version of it would be extremely difficult to design...and probably enjoy. (But might work just fine as a boardgame.) I dunno, I spent hours playing both Sim Ant and Pandemic. I'd suspect a plant/forest simulator would play similar to pandemic coopting the mycellium networks for love and lemons. Anyway as a indigenous minority in a former British colony, I've always been acutely aware of the 'problem of DnDs' fantasy foundations essentially being the glory of Europe and Empire over the 'savage other' (ie Orcs, goblins). Its probably what pushed me more towards playing non-human characters (half orcs, gnomes) in non-combat orientated classes (thief-acrobats, alchemist, clerics) or monk-assassins (strike back at the establishment!!). That said a bit of violent play isnt so bad, especially if put into a justifiable context (killing zombies and soulsuck...
  • 08:27 AM - Riley37 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Why are we okay with violence in RPGs?
    Theoretically, someone could do nonviolent RPGs based on being successful stock brokers, venture capitalists, rival art schools, or plants seeking nutrients in a certain strip of land. I've played Fiasco once, at a convention. No fight scenes, no chase scenes. Conflict, but at other levels. I suspect that we actually *could* use the Fiasco rules set for a fun session about rival venture capitalists (some of us cutting more corners than others). IMO a game of plants competing for nutrients - or perhaps exchanging nutrients sometimes, via interconnected root systems - would require difficult role-playing expression for those of us without lived experience as plants; but if we were willing to employ Pixar levels of anthropomorphosis, it could be both engaging and hilarious.

Tuesday, 11th June, 2019

  • 01:54 PM - billd91 quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    To use one offered example, the Central Park 5 were eventually exonerated and awarded a multimillion dollar settlement. And, as I recall, a second one as well as more facts came forward. (OTOH, the person who took out a full page ad in the NYT calling for their execution has never apologized.) Were they made whole? Could they return to their previous normal lives? Of course not. The bell, rung, cannot be unrung. But they were given the apology (most) of society could give them. They are free to find their new normal, if they can. That's partly my point - there's no redress, no proportionality you can extract from the mob. The Central Park 5 were able to obtain some redress because there are mechanisms in place that can allow for that (though even the appellate courts had failed them), specifically, there was some entity they could legitimately sue. We'll see if Frog God Games is successful in the suit they've filed.
  • 12:12 PM - Bedrockgames quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    Hold yourself to that standard of "details matter"; read exact phrasing, in context; and THEN tell us exactly where you see which gamers defending 'mob mentality', on what basis. Fair enough, I missed the quotations (though in fairness I am not writing a news article :)). But, and not picking on Danny here because I find him to be one of the most reasonable posters in these discussions, but here is one example that to me seems to be defending mob mentality (it was in response to a poster arguing that public shaming is a problem): While simultaneously, a tool that has proven efficacious should not be summarily dismissed because some innocent people get damaged by it on occasion. As with many things in life, nothing is perfect- it’s a balancing act. There have definitely been defenses of shunning and shaming, and using the power of social media to do so here I think. And I do think it isn't inaccurate to call this reaction an internet mob reaction. It is occurring on threads like this, facebook, a...

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Friday, 7th June, 2019

  • 09:21 PM - jonesy quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Upgraded to https! Please report bugs!
    JONSEY CAN GIVE XP!!! How: 1. I click the little content warning icon in the top right on Opera to open it. 2. I click the unblock button to bypass it. 3. I reload the page. 4. Experience
  • 10:45 AM - CapnZapp quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Upgraded to https! Please report bugs!
    Addendum: the reply with quote and reply buttons are visible but nonfunctional.Seconded. App works fine, though.
  • 04:27 AM - dragoner quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Historical Campaign Ideas
    How about something involving the treasure fleets of China’s Ming Dynasty? And Dwarf Pirates! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wokou plus the red seal ships: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_seal_ships with turtle ships! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_ship
  • 02:40 AM - Gradine quoted Dannyalcatraz in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    As the many priests and nuns of my acquaintance might say, “Evil loves to hide.” They might even quote John 3:20: I don’t want to kick any hornets nests, and I certainly don’t want to cast aspersions on anyone’s faith, but there’s a certain... I’m trying to choose my words carefully... but there’s a definite irony, intentional or otherwise, in mentioning the Catholic Church in a discussion about the dangers of sweeping uncomfortable things under the rug, leaving them out of the public eye only to be handled by those involved. Again, nothing against the faith or the church writ large, but it does provide us with a tragic example of pervasive and lasting harm caused by the type of myopic and cloistered “climate” some here appear to long for us to return to.


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