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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Today, 03:23 AM
    "Balanced at the Encounter" just means "pacing doesn't matter." Even 4e didn't go there, though the closely-related 7th ed of Gamma World did, and it worked pretty well, actually. Any indication PF2 wants to go there?
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Today, 02:24 AM
    You have a choice of rules to use (or not): Carrying capacity, it's 15 lb/STR, if the fighter's gear & the other character & his gear exceed that, he's pushding/dragging and his move drops to 5' - otherwise fine, this is the simple default for carrying stuff. Encumbrance ("Variant"): Up to 5lb/STR he's fine, but it's unlikely a medium ally is under 100lb, which'd be the limit for 20 STR. ...
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  • Arilyn's Avatar
    Today, 01:14 AM
    It's very common with new players because they are thinking about iconic characters and/or they want to get the game right. With more experience many will try more novel combinations. Some won't because of wanting every perceivable advantage. And because..D&D. And yeah, dwarf wizards are awesome.😊
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Today, 01:13 AM
    Sounds plausible (that he'd like a mechanic like that), 4e had a lotta* re-rolls, from the notorious Elven Accuracy on, and it seemed like there were just more of 'em after he took over. In particular, the Avenger had a special ability that was "make two attack rolls and use either result. … If another effect lets you roll twice and use the higher result when making an attack roll, this power...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Today, 12:51 AM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    I may still be stuck in the idiom of the D&D Pedantry Thread, but it seems like there's a whole lotta RPGs that don't particularly fit between those. Good to know.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Today, 12:25 AM
    My memory's bad, but I'm fairly certain that the "Summer of 1999" occurred /before/ "the early 2000s." (I mean, I've been "fairly certain" and turned out to have been wrong, before, so y'all might wanna to double-check.)
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:29 PM
    I suspect that'd wear you out. ;) A quick search of some modern archery guidelines, and, yes, you increase wear on a 'natural material' bow if you leave it strung a long time, apparently even a few hours is worth avoiding. Apparently, a strung bow is under tension and a bit dangerous if the string or stave breaks, too. More detail than D&D generally goes into with weapons. Adventurers...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:18 PM
    They've had more or less mechanical impact in some eds (and I'm sure, some places/groups/etc back in the day, when we were a less disunited-by-the-internet, merely more diverse, community). Obvious examples of early alignment mechanics are alignment requirements for classes, damage for touching an artifact that doesn't match your alignment, detect this and know that, etc... 3e peaked, with the...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:46 PM
    In all seriousness, I was just reading a story last night that refered to a female-presenting android as a gynoid. And it looks like that's a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynoid
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:41 PM
    Absolutely. That is completely clear in the PHB. It's not that you can't take a long rest, it's that you don't gain those benefits from it. That a long rest can be taken even at 0 HPs isn't a question if you read the PHB.
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:39 PM
    There's benefits from a Long Rest, and then there are things that happen because a long rest was taken, of which could be a benefit. Let's try this. Akar and Brandar are cursed, they lose two point of strength after each long rest, for three long rests. Two long rests past, and at the start of the third one Brandar has been reduced to zero HPs. The long rest finishes. The curse kicks...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:24 PM
    No expert, but I've heard yes with regard to the bow. But I'm fine with arbitrary. Medieval rossbows, IIRC, weren't like guns - there's no safety, the bolt can just fall out, etc...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:05 PM
    You are conflating the specifically laid out benefits of a long rest, with a benefit that happens because a long rest has passed. They are not the same. The benefits of a long rest are clearly laid out in the PHB on page 186. The vampire's bite is not part of that. Rather the description of the max HP reduction for the vampire has a condition for when it returns. "The reduction lasts...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:59 PM
    If every single mechanic is upturned, then it's hardly just a re-boot to re-start the supplement cycle, is it? Sounds more like substantive change.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:56 PM
    I actually kinda like common. In general, things seem more fantasy (or mythic, perhaps) to me, if everyone can talk to everyone else. You could conceive of Common as just "the gift of language" in the sense of communication, it's not just a language everyone strangely learns, it's the language everyone who can speak at all, can speak by default. All other languages would then be...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:46 PM
    Atk Bonus + d20 >= Def Bonus + d20 is the same mathematically as: Atk Bonus +d20 -d20 >= Def Bonus d20-d20 is a bell curve. So it really changes the odds and the differance that a +1 make depending on where it is in that curve. If your attack and the defense are the same, the first +/-1 will grant a 5% bonus. But if they aren;'t the same, +/-1 will offer smaller change. And asymetic...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:34 PM
    You bank the fire before you go to bed, uncover the coals in the morning, add kindling, and blow on it. IDK why I happen to remember that, but it's actually a good example. If I didn't, your character would be screwed trying to start a fire in mundane domestic setting without a flint & steel, D&D-matches (tindertwig?), or, well, since this is 5e, Firebolt... ...so not really screwed...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:23 PM
    There is the important act of stringing the bow, you could make that an Action, and require it be un-strung to stow (only slightly arbitrary). If you also impose more plausible RoF on crossbows and slings, that'd about take care of projectile weapons as fast-swapping alternatives to melee.
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:23 PM
    When a mommy gnome and a paladin love each other very much, they hug and 9 months later a rapier is born.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:11 PM
    I blame Elan... ...OK, and every version of the Bard class that preceded him.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:07 PM
    Don't mind me, I'm just being pedantic... "How the /Hell/ is it you speak Infer-" "... oh, nevermind, answered my own question, really." But it doesn't specify if that that's oral route, IM, naso-gastric, IV, topical, suppository...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:57 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Or that, yeah. Actually, now that you mention it, my second 4e character was an "old-school high-elf fighter/magic-user," he was a wand wizard, and he did explain his Scorching Burst as "an old Wand of Fireballs that doesn't work like it used to." (There was, in that campaign, a conceit that magic had historically, or pre-historically, worked as it had in prior eds, so I got to lampshade the...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:40 PM
    As a side note, your players are right. It's right in the PHB under the description of Healing Potion (pg 153). "Drinking or administering a potion takes an action.". This is also echoed to be true for all potions in the DMG, page 139.
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:31 PM
    Except that regaining the maximum HPs is not a function of a benefit of a long rest (which requires 1 HP), rather it's the function of the Vampire's Bite where they come back after a long rest is taken. You can definitely take a long rest, even if you don't gain benefits due to having less than 1 HP.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:21 PM
    I'm getting a sense of deja-vu here... … yeah, it's like it's 2003 and someone's going on about the 'cash grab' … ...which went on to command such loyalty from fans that Paizo has been selling PF1 to that base for an extra decade past it's end of life. ...so, yer say'n PF2 could be Paizo's 3.5!
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:20 PM
    Moderate agreement - you will often see races that have a modifier paired with a class that uses that ability. It doesn't have to be +2. (If it did, you wouldn't see any variant humans, and I think they are the race I see the most.) With a 15 accessible both point buy and standard array, and 16 and 17 both giving the same +3 modifier, I see a lot of 16s around. This is why I like how 13th...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:07 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    The difference in ease of use is certainly there, that's been the game's direction the whole time, it's one thing the WotC era hasn't deviated from. Maybe it was just 'pervasive' that threw me. Because, yeah, neo-Vancian is way more versatile than old-school Vanican, and way less limited in in-combat used. OTOH, the breadths of spells isn't as great, and some of them are, well, 'less...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:52 PM
    You definitely wouldn't want to go up to 12d12 - if you rolled max it would be gross... ...(waiting to see if anyone gets it)...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:50 PM
    I have a new RAW interpretation I believe holds up. Unfortunately it does not agree with your DM's ruling so far. 1. Just having 0 HPs means the character starts making death saves. There are a few circumstances where it could also mean death - disintegrate, took massive damage, etc. But those are exceptions - 0 HP is not death. Three failed death saves or another killing effect is death....
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:16 PM
    "Good night everybody!" - Yakko Warner
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:13 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Ok... Magic has always been /so/ pervasive in D&D. It's an infinitely-renewable, daily (or 4hr-nap) resource. You kill a few monsters, one of them'll eventually drop a magic item. There's /fewer/ items, in theory, in 5e, and not really a lot more spells/day (and fewer spells overall)… … and then there's cantrips, which seem to freak people out, but if you've played with Warlocks and...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:36 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Definitely. I played 3e & 4e each for their full runs. 5e was like coming back to AD&D, in contrast. If I'd never left, it'd seem radically different, because I'd be noticing all the little (and huge) technical differences, rather than the broader similarities, the ways in which the game had changed, rather than ways it changed back. /The/ major thing, IMHO, is the privilege of the DM...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:25 PM
    My 3.x group always did that. One of the more extreme ways I've ever seen of dealing with a bad HD roll at level-up, was to repudiate the level. That's how the player put it "I do not accept that roll! I repudiate the level!" I was Ok with it, his fighter dropped back to 2nd, and she ultimately made it to 4th (with less disappointing HD rolls on the way)… ...she was, BTW, one of those...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:14 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    And, at high level, in 5e, they get a lot safer, which is /also/ similar to 1e, as you accumulate hps and get better saves and more protective items and more spells to negate/reverse bad things happening to you. While the details of the systems are quite different - 5e has bigger hp/damage/healing numbers, 1e has much more significant scaling on d20 targets (which it used moreso than bonuses,...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:06 PM
    OK, that is just too good an observation to just XP and tacitly agree with. Yes, I totally get that, and agree it's very much a thing. I kinda alluded to it in the OP, with how you'd build a fire in the absence of any knowledge/wisdom Nature or Survival skill ("...you'd describe exactly what you do, and if you & the DM were in the same boyscout troop, probably succeed"). Because another...
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  • Fanaelialae's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:57 PM
    We always used, DM rolls against you for HP and you take the higher number.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:43 PM
    Sharpshooters'd use finesse weapons as melee backup. The way STR characters use heavy thrown weapons as ranged backup. Which, I think, illustrates the issue. Heavy thrown weapons are a pretty serious downgrade from archery. Rapiers, as the OP points out, are not a downgrade from longswords, really, at all. This is D&D. Magic is supposed to be just better. Not the worst idea I've ever...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:32 PM
    There are no new ideas. It certainly /did/ it badly (if at all) in '93. Since 3.0, it hasn't been so bad, mechanically (OK, diplomancers were pretty horrid), in theory, if DM's'd use the mechanics, and players'd respect them when they didn't break their way... …/IF/. If not, well, machete, gasoline. Problem solved.
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  • jmucchiello's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:11 PM
    Kaodi, can you give us a list of what we picked up? I assume the pistol Zyzzy picked up is a "semi-auto pistol, tactical" from the rulebook. But she also stacked the other three weapons near the entrance. If they have any kind of armor, we would probably strip them of that too. And if we are tracking ammo, how much ammo is there? How much is still in each weapon?
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  • jmucchiello's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:03 PM
    I just leave the pbf forums in an open tab all the time.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:02 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    There was no CR in 1e. You could totally face orcs (or heck, gnolls, zombies, an ogre, etc) at 1st level. ('Face' not necessarily to be taken literally.) Part of the appeal, I should think. (Of course, CR /guidelines/ don't prevent you from facing an Ogre - or disinterested dragon - at first level, they just wave a red flag at the idea.) So it's an Orcs to Orcs comparison. Orcs just have...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:34 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    The logic seemed irrefutable to my 15yo self. ;) "So, hey, Tony, it says here that peasants have 1-6 hps and or '0th' level." "Well, yeah, they're not as good as characters with classes, they don't have levels, but they do have some hps." "Right, but before you have a class you don't have a class, right?" "I guess." "So my magic-user, before he became a magic user, he had 1-6 hps." "That...
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  • Ralif Redhammer's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:33 PM
    I totally agree. As much as it’s super-abstract, I still prefer it to systems that have you take increasing penalties as you get injured. It’s completely elegant in its simplicity. I’ll add Shadowrun Anarchy’s Glitch Die mechanic. You don’t have to use it, but it’s a gamble if you do – your action could be wildly successful, or go totally off-rails, depending on this single die. I much prefer...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:51 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Well, or the alternative wasn't. More likely, it was another thing that varied a lot. I recall Max 1st HD (because Rangers) being a very common variant. One group even figured that, at 0 level, everyone, even mere peasants, got 1-6 hps, so your first level HD should add to those. The version of that I encountered was the "brevet" - start at 2nd, but 0 exp...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:39 PM
    A standard game with no optional rules turned on. Feats & MCing are explicitly optional. You don't ban them, you just dont bother opting into them.
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  • Fanaelialae's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:35 PM
    I played a monk with the Hermit background who had an 8 Int. Despite my low intelligence, I focused heavily on knowledge based skills, even taking two feats that granted extra skills. He was a former street tough who had angered the wrong people and gone on the run. By pure chance, he stumbled across a lost elven library and it's caretaker, and spent over a decade studying under the...
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  • jmucchiello's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:04 PM
    Zyzzy was holding the weapons that were dropped. She left the ones she could not use in a pile not far from the entrance. (She now has a light pistol. I should update her inventory.)
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  • Fanaelialae's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:18 PM
    Rangers get 3 skills from class. 2 from background. Race grants 0 to 2 additional skills. Along with my additions to the "required" list, we're at 6 skills total. Which is one more than the ranger normally gets, including background, unless they are one of the three races that grant extra skills. Even then, only the half elf actually gets to pick a skill of their own choosing. I'll say it...
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  • Fanaelialae's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:46 AM
    What about Athletics? Hard to imagine a ranger who can't climb a tree or swim across a river. What about Animal Handling? Calming a spooked horse seems like it should in their wheelhouse. Include these skills on the "required" list and the ranger player doesn't get to make any choices regarding skills whatsoever. That makes each ranger a cookie-cutter character wrt skills. Which is rather...
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  • jmucchiello's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:30 AM
    I'm enjoying the RP. I'll poke the others: Thateous TallIan
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:29 AM
    What do rapiers have to do with caster supremacy, Monty Haul, treasure hunting, pixel-bitching, 5MWD, magic-item Xmass trees, Vancian spell-grenades, d20s, Fruedian psionics, 10' poles, white-room DPR calculations, cursed magic itens, 30mm lead pewter figures labeled 25mm, rules lawyers, Killer DMs, home-invasion-robbery, LFQW, name recognition, 20-level builds, spiked everything, plant/reptile...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:29 AM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    I was more than half expecting I'd made some dumb math or table lookup error. ::shrug:: CR: 1/2. I already mentioned that, yes. You want slower pacing, it's readily doable, no heavy rules-rewriting called for.
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  • Arilyn's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:12 AM
    I recently made a human wizard. She has a 16 Dex and 14 Int. I focussed more on dex because I'm making a dagger wielding fighter/ wizard, without the need for multiclassing. As a variant human, she took light armour proficiency, which also let me up her dex by one point. She wields two daggers in combat and has a good AC. Because her Int. is little lower than a typical wizard, she focuses on...
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  • Arilyn's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:57 AM
    Yes, yes. I'm tired of 18 str. and 8 dex. or 18 dex. and 8 str. warriors. It makes no sense. A true fighter is going to be strong and nimble. Would you really want to enter into battle all buffed up but super clumsy, or very nimble with strength of tissue paper? I know, it's D&D, and D&D often makes little sense, but this one always bothered me.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:37 AM
    Did you notice the remarkable visual similarity between 4e & PF1 monster stat blocks? With the shading and all? Most obvious difference was purple instead of green.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:34 AM
    The 4e Fighter's "Combat Superiority" OA spoiled the target's movement if it hit. They're mark-punishment interrupt, OTOH, did not, but could be in response to a shift or attack that didn't normally provoke. Consensus was the features made them very 'sticky,' even by defender standards. It could be automatic when they're in the fighter's Threatened area? Haven't used feats much when...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:20 AM
    Yes. Play a Gangrel. Take the Flaw "Twisted Upbringing."
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:17 AM
    So we shouldn't mention the Pixie/Storm-Giant?
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  • Arilyn's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:10 AM
    I like many things from 13th Age as well, including backgrounds, one unique thing and the escalation die. From Fate, definitely aspects. The investigative system in Gumshoe games. The character system in Robin D. Laws HeroQuest. And the passions in Pendragon
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:52 AM
    It's Sisyphean, but starting with the familiar concepts of D&D, and explaining the broader alternatives in those terms, would be using it as a baseline, but not assuming it as the only thing. Maybe? There's some of that in "if you'd just master this other system and accept it's paradigm, you'd understand..." Yeah, I can't see it by those mechanisms. Arbitrarily, though, sure. Your...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:37 AM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Well, IDK, compare a simple, iconic Orc, for instance. In 1e, it hits a stereotypical 1st level front-liner in banded/splint & shield on a natural 17, for 1d8 (4.5) damage (0.9 DPR), and as a 1 HD monster has 1-8 hps, and was AC 6. In 5e, it hits a starting-package heavy armor PC in chain & shield (AC 18) on a natural 13, for 9(1d12+3) damage (3.6 DPR - 4.05 if you count the crit on a 20, which...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 10:41 PM
    So, maybe piercing just needs to be a lot worse than slashing in some way? Because that seems like a difference, there, too. (Or the versatile blades need to be pierce & slashing, vs the finesse blades being piercing?) Or... …/clearly/ what's missing is ::drumroll:: 1e AD&D style Weapon vs Armor modifiers! Yep. If finesse weapons were good vs light armor and sucked vs heavy, while...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 10:20 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Well, they hit more often than 1e monsters at low levels (and, thanks to BA, keep hitting at least some), and have more hps of their own as you go up levels, so stick around longer, inflicting more damage... ...doesn't sound too implausible. Certainly, I haven't seen any 5e parties breezing through 21-encounter days.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 09:55 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    That's not a bad assumption, though character death is hardly unknown in D&D (to put it mildly), at some point, you reach some sort of, IDK, homeostasis, that results in PCs surviving & leveling rather than dying and being replaced. In 5e, scaling (and some class differentiation) was shifted from d20 modifiers (or targets in the case of the classic game) to hps & damage. Some of that shift,...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 09:32 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    To be clear, the balance of the turn being used in resting was the obscure rule, the d3 for 'binding wounds' during that rest was very much a variant - a Len Lakofka variant, I'd guess, at least, a lot of 'em that got heavily used in my area were his, straight from his Dragon articles. Per-hour doesn't ring a bell as loudly. Per turn, does, but I can't recall a specific example, either (also...
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  • jmucchiello's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 09:12 PM
    "It is most likely we will have to fight these yahoos," Zyzzy says flatly, though there is a trace of a smile on her lips. "Let's tie this one up and leave out of listening range. For all we know she has a listening device the aforementioned yahoos are listening in on." She turns to Tara, "The real question is if we really want to risk our lives trying to take possession of rather large objet...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 08:18 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Not a lot more than merely setting short & long rests to different durations. You push out the time scale of the adventure. The bigger difference is table time devoted to bookkeeping, and that's not a /big/ difference, either. Again, folks played the game very differently from place to place & table to table back in the day. 5e shifted most scaling to hps, so, yeah, they balloon. ...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 08:07 PM
    Crossposting. Let's take it to the Pedantic complaints thread, and get you some XP to go with that laugh. ;) Hey, and that explains why Gimli was so into her. Well, makes it at tad less creepy. …
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 07:57 PM
    Let's take it to the Pedantic complaints thread, and get you some XP to go with that laugh. ;) Hey, and that explains why Gimli was so into her. Well, makes it at tad less creepy. Edit: wrong thread... ...cross-posting...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 07:48 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    "Something akin to" is, I think, a pretty low bar. Admittedly, the balance of a 10 minute turn is a lot less resting than 5e's one hour. But it's still a rest, and it's still short. Some variant I vaguely recall even let that 'bind wounds' assumption heal d3 hps. Which, at 1st level, in particular, was nothing to sneeze at. Not spells in any standard class, now, but there were the occasional...
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  • Ralif Redhammer's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 07:45 PM
    Galadriel was a gnome. :D No, really. At the risk of "well, actually'ing" you, in some of Tolkien's earlier drafts, the Noldor were referred to as gnomes. Galadriel was of the Noldor, ergo...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 07:35 PM
    Well, in the sense that flames won't stop it from regenerating... ;P ...we'll see... That's an interesting question. 5e has more than a few little details lifted straight from 4e, and more than a few more re-named, bowdlerized, or otherwise reduced to an acceptable post-edition-war level. The result is /both/ absolutely nothing like 4e, and very similar to 4e. So that complicates the...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 07:15 PM
    Tony Vargas replied to OSR Gripes
    Not a great point, actually. Old-school did actually have something akin to a 'short rest.' Play progressed in 10-min 'turns,' and if a combat didn't take 10 rounds, the balance was assumed to be spent resting, binding wounds and repairing gear. And, recovering hp & spells 'overnight' is a mere simplification of the complicated rules for recovering spells (requiring anything from 4 to 8 hrs of...
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 06:06 PM
    Nope. The readied character would have to either move ahead of the one he was trying to move with, then ready, or take the readied action and move only 30' to the other's 60. To be fair, Delay doesn't do it, either, the other guy moves, /then/ you move right after. It's one of those things you just need to common-sense hand-wave. (sorry, I forgot the point of the thread there for a moment) ...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:47 PM
    Back in the time of one of the TSR-edition D&D editions they came out with this in Dragon magazine. It worked well from traps and such, but it made some general environmental hazards impossibly deadly. If we're already accepted the game assumption that you can be hit several times by a battle axe, roasted by a dragon, and you're still fighting, then the realism of a 40' fall from failing a...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:43 PM
    I am as well in 5e. I was more saying that I enjoyed that there was that guidance in which way to make ruling which could have been helpful.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:41 PM
    While I don't disagree that a wizard could learn magic & have his spell book while remaining ignorant of Arcane lore outside the practical necessities of his trade, I can't agree that opens up a wide variety. The wizard is a bookish, Vancian/Hermetic magic-user, no matter how you tweak or polish it. Casting arcane spells without all that training and that spellbook was broken out to the...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:39 PM
    Not unless one of the characters gives up all of their actions. Try you and a friend (or several) walking down a street while each doing something. It does not require that everybody but one give up all of their actions to walk in a line. See also: marching band. (Taking an action for CHR (Perform).)
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:35 PM
    The studs make catcalls at the elves (can't tell what gender they are, so whistle all) and flex. A lot. Oh wait, wrong context.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:29 PM
    Yes, there's several examples where the effect or hit line just creates an 'area' and avoids the Zone keyword.
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  • Tony Vargas's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:28 PM
    Heh. Who can forget those iconic gnome characters in LotR…? What were their names again? That's probably a big part of it, yes. Any race other than human can tend to fall into racial stereotypes, the character becomes about the race (either conforming to or challenging stereotypes), rather than about the character.
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 05:19 PM
    Blue started a thread Finesse rebalance
    In another thread there was an aside about rapiers, with part of it being: So I started to write up a serious reply about how it's not that they were perfect, but that others were not: First thing I realized is that I was derailing a thread, so I didn't post it. The second thing is that the comment about how finesse is such a game changer compared to other keywords has a lot of...
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  • Ralif Redhammer's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:58 PM
    That’s how I took it. Will Byers went through some terrible trials those last two seasons. Also, he’s switched from being a player to being a DM. After being trapped in the Upside Down and then possessed, he’s probably in need of some sort of control in his life, someplace safe. I thought the passing of the red box to Erica was very sweet.
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:51 PM
    One concept from an earlier edition of D&D was specific overrides general. If that's the case, the specific of the spell returning at 1 HP should overcome the general rule that HPs can not exceed max HPs.
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:48 PM
    The impossibility of "he and I move while staying together" in combat. Taking out the delay action just made some simple concepts impossible. How the skill system enforces certain divisions. For instance, mechanically I can't model a character who is good at interacting with high society, from gossip to blackmail to formal dancing to heraldry, but are lousy at the same times of interactions...
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  • Ralif Redhammer's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:48 PM
    I like gnomes, but this is definitely a problem. There’s such a palimpsest of identities to the gnome that it can be hard to say what a gnome actually is. As to race mattering in my campaigns, I think much of that falls to the player. Is the player really into their dwarven identity or is it just a collection of bonuses and abilities to them? My players definitely impact my DMing style, and I...
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  • Blue's Avatar
    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:34 PM
    WaterRabbit - I do agree with your points. I just wanted to point out that XCom is a lot like D&D 4e in having a lot of "this exact square vs. that square" in terms of positioning, cover, line of sight and effects. It needs a high level of precise, tactical control even if the system is less complex. I'm not saying this to refute your point, just mentioning that example has some differences...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:30 PM
    PoE2 changed the spell system from the original PoE to all spells refreshing after each combat, so it wasn't a problem if the AI burned through spells in an encounter. The original PoE had spells recover on a (long) rest like D&D, and there real time with AI was an issue - either you let the AI use them and would burn through them quickly, or you didn't in which case it was effectively turn...
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    Monday, 15th July, 2019, 04:28 PM
    Also when I first went off to college. I went to a place where I knew absolutely no one. Nevermind that playing D&D would probably have helped me make friends, for I was terribly shy at that point in my life. In the last two years, I started running an AD&D game back at home during the summer and had a lot of fun. A bunch of my fellow musicians all discovered that we used to play D&D and...
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Wednesday, 10th July, 2019

  • 02:30 AM - DMMike mentioned Blue in post Help Reading Dice Pools
    The problem is with a dice pool where you care about the numbers, not the total. In Exalted, for example, you don't care about the total, you care about the number of dice that roll 7 or higher - each die that is a 7 or higher is a "success". And you care about the number of 10s on top of that because 10s count for 2 successes instead of 1. And you might care about the number of 1s that show up because if you get no successes at all and roll at least one 1, then you botch (though if you somehow manage that on 40 dice then you are having a real bad day). Oh, well then I'm with Blue: that's just poor design. The game isn't scaling well when you're spending your time reading dice instead of role-playing. But since that doesn't solve OP's problem... Still: don't. :) Since you have to beat a number of successes (guessing here), divide that number by 10. 4. 2. Whatever gets you closer to a number of dice you're comfortable counting, and preferably results in an integer. Divide the number of dice you're allowed to roll by that same number, round up since your GM is a nice guy, and have at it.

Saturday, 22nd June, 2019

  • 12:54 AM - FrogReaver mentioned Blue in post Another attempt at fixing the -5 / +10 issue
    It sounds to me like the calculation you are talking about likely had 1 to many assumptions in it. There is no way to know what distribution of AC's a player will face in a given campaign. As such I would question the assumptions of any math conclusion drawn about which is better or which is worse. That said, the general principle you talk about is always going to hold - there will always be a breakpoint where using it more often for less damage will be more beneficial than using it less often for more damage. The question is where is that breakpoint and do reasonable distributions of AC's for s given level hit that breakpoint. Blue - I created a simple excel sheet that can take into account: 1. Number of attacks made at various AC's 2. Always making the optimal choice between using the -0/+0 and the -2/+4 or -0/+0 and the -5/+10 3. (+3 attack bonus estimate for precision attack when used) 4. All variables can easily be changed manually to display most examples. In my case I used a level 5 fighter with defense style and a great sword. The sheet calculates DPA. It turns out that for an equal weight in all AC's 11-20 that the -5/+10 wins out. For more of a bell shaped distribution on AC 11-20 the -2/+4 wins out. With precision attack the -5/+10 wins out. Etc. That's at level 5. By level 20 even on the bell shaped distribution the -5/+10 wins handily. If I skew the distribution more toward 18 AC and leave out all enemies with AC 13 and below the -5/+10 still wins out at level 20.

Friday, 21st June, 2019

  • 04:48 AM - FrogReaver mentioned Blue in post In-Combat Healing: How and Why?
    Blue Forgive me, but I need to reorder your comments to make a point At many tables death happens rarely enough that it's better to prioritize your healing resources in order to minimize offensive actions lost (to kill the opponent quicker and reducing the chance of death) rather than spending actions overhealing to prevent it from happening. 1. Death is rare. Agreed. 2. You suggest we should minimize offensive actions lost. Why do you suggest that? To reduce chance of death. -I partly agree. We want to reduce the chance of death. -However, I contend that if death is so rare that healing (using my tactics) isn't worthwhile then death is also so rare that trying to minimize offensive actions lost in order to reduce chance of death isn't worthwhile. But since you agree that reducing the already small chance of death by minimizing offensive action lost is actually worthwhile then you should also agree that minimizing the small chance of death by healing (using my tactics) is a...

Saturday, 27th April, 2019

  • 07:08 PM - Ark the Pie King mentioned Blue in post Way of the Pistol Monk. Is it balanced?
    Blue, The monk already gets a save-or-die power baseline. It's Quivering Palm. I can understand the rest of that though, for sure. Too bad, I really like it thematically. I might take a crack at writing something myself, I'm not sure. I've kind of fallen in love with the concept at this point. It's a lot more interesting than playing a Ranger which was my fallback lol.

Tuesday, 23rd April, 2019

  • 10:10 PM - lowkey13 mentioned Blue in post Poll - Best Old School Starting Adventure to Run for Teens
    Heya, So, due to popular demand here in the Stately Pleasure Dome of Xanadu, I've been thinking of running an old-school, AD&D (1e) campaign for a group of teens (7th/8th grade) who are already familiar with 5e. Before getting to the poll, though, I'd like to remind everyone that the people on this forum are AWESOME and AMAZING! When I sent out a request for information earlier, not only did fellow forum denizen Blue respond, he helped out by going above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks to Blue, this campaign/ersatz attempt to learn Gygaxian vocabulary will be getting off the ground! Thank you, Blue! So anyway, I'm thinking of building up to X4/X5 (as I haven't run those in ages), but I'd like to start them at first level. We are playing standard rules, but can use the B (basic) modules. I am including modules that I can and would want to run, but I am NOT including B1 and B2 since I just ran the 5e Goodman Games versions of those to try out a few months ago. So, what say you all? What is the ideal starting adventure? Choices- B3 (Palace of the Silver Princess) B4 (The Lost City) B5 (Horror on the Hill) N1 (Against the Cult of the Reptile God) T1 (The Village of Hommlet) U1 (The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh .... THE ORIGINAL!) What say you? Explain in the comments!
  • 08:24 PM - vostygg mentioned Blue in post [GUIDE] I Fought the Law and Won: The Rogue Guide
    ...er DPR at all levels if you ignore the possibility of BB's secondary damage, significantly so in Tier 1, but by the time BB starts to scale, the gap is pretty small as a share of the average damage; small enough that IMO the combination of the control effect and being able to do something else with your bonus action is well worth it. Example TWF (level 5) Main Hand (base damage): (1d6 + 4) * 0.6 = 4.5 Main Hand (crit damage) : 1d6 * 0.05 = 0.175 Off Hand (base damage) : 1d6 * 0.6 = 2.1 Off Hand (crit damage) : 1d5 * 0.05 = 0.175 Sneak Attack (base) : 3d6 * (1 - 0.4*0.4) = 8.82 Sneak Attack (crit) : 3d6 * (0.05 + 0.4 * 0.05) = 0.735 Total: = 16.51 Thanks for cross-checking my work, @Esker I actually agree with your computation for sneak attack crit damage, since it corresponds with the observation @Blue made, which is that most people are likely to apply Sneak Attack damage the first time they hit. When I adjust my math to use your computation instead of the one I was using (i.e. 3d6 * (1 - 0.05 * 0.05), this is what I get: ------------------ Rogue 20 TWF - DPR ------------------ Level 1: 9.54 Level 2: 9.54 Level 3: 12.72 Level 4: 13.32 Level 5: 16.51 Level 6: 16.51 Level 7: 19.69 Level 8: 20.29 Level 9: 23.47 Level 10: 23.47 Level 11: 26.66 Level 12: 26.66 Level 13: 29.85 Level 14: 29.85 Level 15: 33.03 Level 16: 33.03 Level 17: 36.21 Level 18: 36.21 Level 19: 39.40 Level 20: 39.40 I also looked over my math for the Booming Blade DPR and realize that I had a copy-paste error. Here is the updated table, which very likely corresponds with what you were seeing: ---------------------------- Rogue 20 Booming Blade - DPR ---------------------------- Level 1: 7.00 Level 2: 7.00 Level 3: 9.27 Level 4...

Tuesday, 16th April, 2019

  • 03:42 PM - Laurefindel mentioned Blue in post Musing on some variant and homebrewed rules: feedback and insight wanted
    Oooooh, I had forgotten about hit dice Blue There’s is also a possibility to expand on the hit dice mechanics, like spending a hit dice to heal an exhaustion level on a short rest. I’m not looking for extra HD use for the sake of extra HD use only, but there is wiggle room in the system there IMO if I need it.
  • 02:27 PM - Celebrim mentioned Blue in post Vampire's new "three-round combat" rule
    Blue: So, I'm going to cut to the chase and say that I think based on that response we are largely in agreement about things, and that the real crux then is "How do you go about achieving the desired result?" And there are two camps about fixing this problem. One camp is that, if this is a desirable result, then you should achieve it by application of narrative force. That is to say, by rules or rulings or narration, the GM should tell the players that the desirable thing has happened and that the game should explicitly empower the GM to do this, because it is desirable. The "three round" rule we are discussing is one example of this application of narrative force. The problems that I see in this camp are many. One is that it requires a high degree of spontaneous imagination and foresight. The GM is required to in the midst of the stress of running a session also invent imaginative and creative things to happen which lead to further creative and imaginative things. This is hard...

Monday, 8th April, 2019


Monday, 4th March, 2019

  • 10:15 PM - ContrapuntalAnt mentioned Blue in post [GUIDE] So art lies hid by its own artifice - an artificer guide
    ...e from playing ANY combination if that's what they want to play. This is my subjective opinion on the efficacy, primarily in mechanical terms, of the options available. This is a RPG, and the most important part is to have fun. I apologise for giving an impression that different in any way from that, and will make that clear at the start of the first post. 3. To that end, I will change the red criterion from "avoid at all costs" (wording taken from other guides) to a different descriptor. On reflection that is horrendously negative wording. 4. There are undoubtedly other parts of the guide which are currently deficient. Hopefully I will address these parts in due course, but in the meantime do feel free to continue to identify them. But could you perhaps start with the assumption that I am creating this in good faith? While I fully and truly appreciate the content of your critique, it was posted in what came across as quite an acerbic tone. Apologies if I have misread that. Blue: thank you for the continued commentary/additions! I don't have time (/energy, long day!) to go through those numbers at the moment, but it's always good to get some quantitative analysis for those who like comparing that way :)

Sunday, 3rd March, 2019

  • 12:38 AM - Ash Mantle mentioned Blue in post Swordlord [Fighter Subclass, PEACH]
    ...ur different pools, based off important ability scores, refreshing on any rest, means that you will never really run out. It's not very 5e in execution. I'd change it like this: Parry - use as often as you want, remove usage limits. For others - you gain a pool of (hmm, what to call it? Shift? Momentum?) equal to Proficiency plus the higher of your STR or DEX modifiers per long or short rest. This is higher then you had - going from ~5 (at 3rd) to 11 (@17th) instead of ~3 to 5. Costs will reflect this. Riposte costs 2*. Projection of Blades costs 1 per attack. One With the Blade costs 4. * Riposte is like a Battlemaster that just uses a single maneuver, but it's one of the better maneuvers. Having that doable many times per short rest on top everything else would be a huge swing in DPR, more than . So a cost of 2 - still can been done a lot, but not out-doing the battlemaster plus doing lot else. Now it's a real cost if you want to spend. Thank you very much, Blue, for your amazing critique and analysis! It's really much appreciated and has really been very helpful to me, especially to my first instance of creating a 5e class! Yeah, good point on extending out the flavor, I'll need to write more fluff and have it integrate more into the theme of the Swordlord and what their training regime and always constant need to duel have effectively produced. The misty step bonus action is also a good one, another idea was to also be able to extend the reach of the weapon within those class features, though that may also be too strong. What do you think? Yeah, I'll need to think of a more consolidation of resource pools so that they don't key off too many disparate aspects. Your idea of a shift or momentum pool to use their abilities from is a good one. I was actually thinking of having their bonus Strength modifier to Initiative to effectively come into play at 3rd level instead, being more in line with other classes and subclasses that get...

Wednesday, 27th February, 2019

  • 04:29 PM - Ratskinner mentioned Blue in post Why the hate for complexity?
    I'd agree with both Blue and Flexor the Mighty!. I mean, when I was young, I got into game complexity a lot. But I think it was barking up the wrong tree from the goals of play for which I come to an rpg. I'm perfectly happy to play a complicated war or battle game like SFB, even. I think there's definitely a place for complicated rules for competitive environments. However, that's the long way around for a game that's trying to create an interesting story. (And not all gamers come to rpgs for that purpose, either.) And honestly, that's why I come to play an rpg. I think, in a historical sense, a more fundamental problem is that traditional rules are not geared towards "story" at all, so much as they are geared toward a very loosely-drawn idea of "simulation" of a fantasy world.* So, this leads to "fudging" rolls and rules. I mean, you can't have the people who were prophesied to save the world in episode 1 get eaten by a randomly encountered Troll in episode 3....so, if I'm going to be fudging rolls, why...

Saturday, 23rd February, 2019


Sunday, 27th January, 2019

  • 05:11 PM - FrogReaver mentioned Blue in post Looking for math: Halfling Lucky vs. Elven accuracy
    @Blue I did the calculations and it looks to me like you have 2 scenarios 1. The +1 Dex from Elven Accuracy increases your dex mod to the same bonus the +2 would In this case elven accuracy is better against all AC values and climbs to a 21% more damage against AC 20. 2. The +1 Dex from Elven Accuracy doesn't increase your dex mod to the same bonus the +2 would. In this case halfling's with lucky are better across all AC's. They are better against lower AC's than higher ones. The relative damage increase climbs to 9% more damage against AC 11. (All this was without factoring in critical hits) Elven accuracy makes critical better and the margin that the halfling is better in case 2 is so razor thin for most ac values that after the impact of the critical hit is factored in I expect Elven Accuracy to slightly lead across most AC values except the lowest. Comparing to a build that just has advantage the halfling lucky and advantage build only increases your damage output by 1%-4% ac...
  • 02:39 PM - Fevvers mentioned Blue in post [GUIDE] Raven Soul : thematically optimising Shadow Blade for insane damage
    Blue & RogueJK These are both enviably excellent builds! I hadn't thought of going Celestial - interesting idea! Getting Revivify at 6th level is awesome and you've built up the SB damage beautifully. Very nicely balanced! When I'd been considering Warlock, Hexblade seemed to be the logical choice. I like how you've got the Extra Attack in. For quite a while I tried to shoehorn this build into Obliza's outstanding Sorlock build, indeed that was the initial inspiration for it, substituting SB/BB for EB/Hex. It just sort of grew from there. Oh yes, the Bladesinger+ builds - so seriously crunchy! I love how you've reached 20 DEX at 8th, and taking Tough at 10th alleviates the Bladesinger glass cannon problem, and at a reasonable stage in the character's adventuring life! I have a Paladin 2/Bladesinger x character, who attempts to force the SB/BB opp attack by sticking close to an opponent and Smiting. She's a bit of a beast... thematically I treat her as though she has taken an 'O...

Saturday, 26th January, 2019


Friday, 18th January, 2019

  • 10:28 PM - jasper mentioned Blue in post Resurrection Complications
    I disagree with Blue about the replacement level. I would say avg of party or equal to lowest level. And dausiil I have no trouble bringing new pcs. Some times you were two days short before you fell on the nade. Aka Game Over Man. Oh the Chart I would add some bad with the good. Like vulnerability to necrotic. But nice chart except for using the second most hated die.

Wednesday, 16th January, 2019

  • 08:57 PM - TwoSix mentioned Blue in post New warlock invocations
    Breath of Night: I'd make it base level or level 5, not level 11. Brimstone: Make it also add your Charisma modifier to damage per beam, but it doesn't stack with Agonizing Blast. So you can take Brimstone and do 1d12+Cha fire damage, or take Agonizing Blast and do 1d10+Cha force damage. If you really want options of damage type, you can take both. Eldritch Chain: So that's an increase of 5% * 15-16 average damage per beam fired, so about 0.8 damage per beam. So a 1.6 DPR increase at 7, 2.4 at 11, and 3.2 at 17, that isn't tied to accuracy. Feels a little low, but it does stack with every other add-on to eldritch blast, so it's probably OK. Downside it that it makes being a hexblade EB caster even better than it already is, which doesn't feel great. Eldritch Line/Doom: I wouldn't tack too many things onto those, contra to Blue's suggestion (Sorry!). You are turning into an AoE, which means you're turning it into an auto-hit for all of those extra abilities, unless you add text that a successful save means the targets aren't repelled or slowed or any other negative effect. Even the auto at-will damage part is pretty good. Hellrime: I'd probably repeat my suggestion from Brimstone about making this an option to take instead of Agonizing Blast. This + Repelling Blast + Lance of Lethargy (XgtE) might be too good, but considering Repelling + Lethargy is already a thing, it's probably OK.

Monday, 7th January, 2019

  • 12:03 PM - 5ekyu mentioned Blue in post Worlds of Design: “Old School” in RPGs and other Games – Part 1 Failure and Story
    Blue "The article mentions failure, while the chart shows danger -- these are VERY different concepts when discussing "old school" vs. "new school". Failure is not only common in "new school", but at times is to be embraced. Because failure isn't the boolean "you're dead, game over" common to old school, but another fork of what's being told" This is to me a key element I see in many discussions along this variety and the characitures of positions presented -- way too many times it is portrayed as if character death is the only stakes. If your players and their characters are invested in the world as more than just map pins and resource modes to be harvested, there are often much more things at stake. I recall bringing an entire gaming group to tears over the death of an NPC that was an interest to my PC with an introduction letter to the characters first wife (also dead) asking her to help the new dead girl get along and so on, mentioning a few of her good qualities and rough edges, et...

Wednesday, 2nd January, 2019

  • 10:57 AM - Harzel mentioned Blue in post What solution for "Cantrips don't feel magical"?
    ...ons per day then skill slots, all the way up through 20th. Here's a breakdown I did in an earlier thread: The baseline we have from this is that casters will be mostly not-spells until double digits, and even at 20 will still have a good chunk of actions more than spell slots. Back in pre-cantrip editions casters needed to default to mundane solutions - wizards throwing darts, etc. Using mundane solutions also does not make casters feel magical. The idea of a few cantrips per day doesn't work - it still leaves mundane solutions for most actions until the highest of levels. So how do we combine the contradictory ideas that (a) at-will magic makes magic feel mundane that several people have stated, and (b) have that casters can contribute meaningfully in a magical way without having to resort to mundane actions? I don't think a direct compromise works, so what solutions orthogonal to mundane=mundane and at-will=mundane can we find? As one of the "cantrip skeptics" whom I think Blue is referencing, I'd like to chime in here with a few points. 1. For me, the primary objection to the extensive availability of at-will magic is that I cannot (or at least to this point have not been able to conceive of a way to) make it coherent with a setting that is not high-magic. 2. The fact that it (for me) debases magic by making it ordinary is somewhat a secondary concern until someone says, "Oh, but we must have cantrips so that we can do something magical every round." Accepting for a moment that casting a spell every round is necessary to 'feel magical', claiming that pew-pewing Firebolt every round satisfies that need just feels farcical to me because you have now reduced the label 'magical' to a very superficial bit of fluff. 3. As much as I would like to constructively contribute to a thread spawned (in part) in response to my own bit whining, for me it is simply not the case that my PC must be able to cast a spell every round in order to 'feel magical', and, unfortuna...


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Wednesday, 17th July, 2019

  • 01:13 PM - dnd4vr quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    My 2¢: revivify should have brought the character back to life with 0 hit points. The 1 hit point of healing would have been lost, and the character’s hit point maximum would still be 0. After that, greater restoration would end the reduction caused by the vampire’s bite, allowing the character to heal. We would have been in the same situation really then since we can't cast Greater Restoration, either. If he had ruled it this way, he told me he would have had the character remain in a coma until we got a Greater Restoration and maybe required a death save daily, allowing her to recover naturally or die again. (Which is kind of pointless since we can just cast Revivify again...) I have a new RAW interpretation I believe holds up. Unfortunately it does not agree with your DM's ruling so far. 1. Just having 0 HPs means the character starts making death saves. There are a few circumstances where it could also mean death - disintegrate, took massive damage, etc. But those are exceptions...
  • 12:55 PM - Hriston quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    You are conflating the specifically laid out benefits of a long rest, with a benefit that happens because a long rest has passed. They are not the same. The benefits of a long rest are clearly laid out in the PHB on page 186. The vampire's bite is not part of that. Rather the description of the max HP reduction for the vampire has a condition for when it returns. "The reduction lasts until the target finishes a long rest." Absolutely clear language. Did you finish a long rest? Then the reduction is no longer continuing. If you couldn't take a long rest if you were at 0 HP it would say "If you have 0 HP you can't take a long rest". It doesn't say that. You just don't get the benefits enumerated above. You don't regain HP and hit dice. Anyway that's how I'd rule. Dying because your max HP is reduced to 0 (and not getting any HP back from a long rest) is penalty enough. I don’t think anyone has answered jaelis’s question about regaining spent spell slots when taking a long ...
  • 07:41 AM - Monayuris quoted Blue in post What are your Pedantic Complaints about D&D?
    As a side note, your players are right. It's right in the PHB under the description of Healing Potion (pg 153). "Drinking or administering a potion takes an action.". This is also echoed to be true for all potions in the DMG, page 139. Fair enough. I chalk it up to rules in a new edition that I didn't bother reading since I'm used to the older editions way of doing things. I still would house rule against this though. I think one could administer a potion to a conscious character but I would maintain that one couldn't do so to an unconscious one. The thing with 'pedantic complaints about D&D' is that whatever edition presents such complaints and whatever complaints you have you can simply house rule the game to avoid them. I propose that once you buy the rule books, the game belongs to you and your group... do so with them as you please. I know AL doesn't work like that, but I really don't care about AL.
  • 01:58 AM - Maxperson quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    You are conflating the specifically laid out benefits of a long rest, with a benefit that happens because a long rest has passed. They are not the same. And you die if you have 0 hit points due to the vampire bite. Clearly the long rest portion of the bite section wasn't intended for PCs who are at 0 max hit points, but for those who are drained and remain alive. You are in a grey area, so you really can't treat it as normal with regards to resting. You can certainly rule it that way for your table, but those who are viewing it as a benefit are just as right as you are.
  • 01:28 AM - BlivetWidget quoted Blue in post Shoe Horning the Races by Class?
    Moderate agreement - you will often see races that have a modifier paired with a class that uses that ability. It doesn't have to be +2. (If it did, you wouldn't see any variant humans, and I think they are the race I see the most.) Indeed, and it's all for that delicious, succulent feat. I think it's a shame the game doesn't encourage feats more. I think that's where real character customization comes into its own. ASIs and proficiencies are nice, and highly encouraged by the core rules since they affect situations that come up again and again (you need a really good reason not to get your primary stat to 20 ASAP). But at the end of the day they just let you do what you could already do... a bit better. Feats add whole new dimension to characters. Often, this isn't mechanically as good as a 20 in your primary stat, but I do think it's more interesting.

Tuesday, 16th July, 2019

  • 11:41 PM - Dannyalcatraz quoted Blue in post What it's like Reading SF from the 50's
    In all seriousness, I was just reading a story last night that refered to a female-presenting android as a gynoid. And it looks like that's a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynoid Yep. Seen it many times, but it never seemed to stick. Just like “man” became a synonym for humanity, the male-rooted “Android” became the term for human-stimulant artificial life. Nobody seemed to care for a female-rooted version of the term.
  • 10:58 PM - jaelis quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    There's benefits from a Long Rest, and then there are things that happen because a long rest was taken, of which could be a benefit. That distinction seems like slicing the cheese pretty fine... Let's try this. Akar and Brandar are cursed, they lose two point of strength after each long rest, for three long rests. Two long rests past, and at the start of the third one Brandar has been reduced to zero HPs. The long rest finishes. The curse kicks off, reducing both of their STR by two points. And the curse ends. What is being argued is that the curse running out is a benefit, so Brandar will suffer then penalty at the end fo the long rest but still have it continue, losing more strength than anyone else even though it was of the same duration. When really what is happening is that end of a long rest is just when the curse is done. I think I agree with you here, but boy that is a pretty contrived example. In contrast, I think that regaining spell slots, eliminating lev...
  • 10:24 PM - Hriston quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    You are conflating the specifically laid out benefits of a long rest, with a benefit that happens because a long rest has passed. They are not the same. The benefits of a long rest are clearly laid out in the PHB on page 186. The vampire's bite is not part of that. Rather the description of the max HP reduction for the vampire has a condition for when it returns. "The reduction lasts until the target finishes a long rest." Absolutely clear language. Did you finish a long rest? Then the reduction is no longer continuing. My contention is that you can’t finish a long rest unless you had at least 1 hit point when you started it.
  • 10:15 PM - jaelis quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    The benefits of a long rest are clearly laid out in the PHB on page 186. The vampire's bite is not part of that. I don't think there is any reason to conclude that the benefits listed in the PHB are an exclusive list. For instance, that section doesn't say anything about recovering spell slots, but I guess you would not allow someone to recover spells if they started the long rest at 0 hp?
  • 10:13 PM - Oofta quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    You are conflating the specifically laid out benefits of a long rest, with a benefit that happens because a long rest has passed. They are not the same. The benefits of a long rest are clearly laid out in the PHB on page 186. The vampire's bite is not part of that. Rather the description of the max HP reduction for the vampire has a condition for when it returns. "The reduction lasts until the target finishes a long rest." Absolutely clear language. Did you finish a long rest? Then the reduction is no longer continuing. The problem is the interpretation of what the PHB means when states under Long Rest "a character must have at least 1 hit point at the start of the rest to gain its benefits". Did they really have a long rest if they can't gain any benefits from it? Note that I'm not disagreeing with you, I'd certainly allow it. Dying is enough of a penalty in and of itself.
  • 09:07 PM - Tony Vargas quoted Blue in post What are your Pedantic Complaints about D&D?
    Don't mind me, I'm just being pedantic... Why does my Tiefling who grew up in a human city automatically know Infernal?"How the /Hell/ is it you speak Infer-" "... oh, nevermind, answered my own question, really." "Drinking or administering a potion takes an action."But it doesn't specify if that that's oral route, IM, naso-gastric, IV, topical, suppository...
  • 08:51 PM - Jer quoted Blue in post Shoe Horning the Races by Class?
    Back in AD&D you had racial restrictions and ability score negatives but you would often see races in classes where they lacked a relevent bonus. Probably due to multclass rules and racial packages. I don't remember this, though I ran B/X and only really engaged in AD&D as a player, and it's been a long time, so perhaps my memories are shaded. What I remember was that the class/race combos you could play were insanely restrictive. If you were playing anything other than a fighter, magic-user, or fighter/magic-user you were playing a human or a half-elf. When I played I was almost always a cleric, so I was almost always playing a human. Because only half-elves, half-orcs and humans were allowed to be clerics, and the level caps for half-orc and half-elf clerics were stupidly low and the benefits of not being human weren't that great (I googled it real quick to remind myself, and it was worse than I thought - half-orcs were capped at level 4 and half-elves at level 5 - honestly in ...
  • 08:48 PM - Hriston quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    Except that regaining the maximum HPs is not a function of a benefit of a long rest (which requires 1 HP), rather it's the function of the Vampire's Bite where they come back after a long rest is taken. You can definitely take a long rest, even if you don't gain benefits due to having less than 1 HP. I would say that ending the reduction caused by the vampire’s bite is a *benefit* of a long rest. My reading is that finishing a long rest is the same as gaining its benefits, and that you can do neither unless you have at least 1 hit point when you start the rest.
  • 08:15 PM - Ristamar quoted Blue in post Death and 0 Max HP
    I have a new RAW interpretation I believe holds up. Unfortunately it does not agree with your DM's ruling so far. 1. Just having 0 HPs means the character starts making death saves. There are a few circumstances where it could also mean death - disintegrate, took massive damage, etc. But those are exceptions - 0 HP is not death. Three failed death saves or another killing effect is death. 2. The Vampire's Bite has a special effect triggered when if the bite brings you to 0 HPs, it kills you immediately. This is worded as a trigger, not an ongoing effect. So that can kill a character, but not re-kill one. 3. Revivify should therefore work as it says. Unfortunately, it will return the character to their maximum of 0 HPs so they will immediately start making death saves. They can't be healed up to 1 HP (the classic way to stabilize), but there are many methods to make someone stable at 0 HPs such as the Spare the Dying cantrip or a Wisdom (Medicine) check. 4. At that ...
  • 07:11 PM - Xaelvaen quoted Blue in post Should Baldur's Gate 3 be turnbased or Real Time With Pause?
    PoE2 changed the spell system from the original PoE to all spells refreshing after each combat, so it wasn't a problem if the AI burned through spells in an encounter. The original PoE had spells recover on a (long) rest like D&D, and there real time with AI was an issue - either you let the AI use them and would burn through them quickly, or you didn't in which case it was effectively turn based as you be pausing often to cast. So PoE2 isn't a great analog for D&D combat where there's a lot of long rest recovery spells and class features. The original PoE was closer, and that did have issues with real time because of AI use of them. I actually wouldn't know about the AI using spells, I always micromanage in games like that, be it pause or turn-based. I do see it as at least relevant, because regardless of when your spells come back, you're still dealing with constraints, and still dealing with rounds of nothing but basic attacks - at least with D&D, there are at-will cantrips. PoE2...
  • 04:41 PM - dnd4vr quoted Blue in post Finesse rebalance
    Not enough time at present to read through the thread, so my apologies if I am repeating anything others have already said. Finesse becomes that you use DEX or STR to attack. Damage is still STR. This weakens DEX as a do-all ability score and makes finesse less of a game changer out of the gate. So a default DEX-based rapier is inferior to a default STR-based longsword. Then we add in a Fighting Style Swashbuckler: You may use your DEX or STR for damage with all finesse weapons. If you are not holding a shield or non-finesse weapon, you gain +1 AC in light, medium or no armor. The +1 AC is to bring it up the the level of the other fighting styles, though it's a bit stepping on the Protection style. Other suggestions welcome. Rogues and Monks would get either this fighting style (which would boost their AC) or just the use DEX for damage as well, as an additional feature. A feat would also do something similar, probably as a half-feat that also raises DEX. (Note that if I wanted ...
  • 04:39 PM - DMMike quoted Blue in post Help Reading Dice Pools
    I wonder, are people ready for a game where rolling resolution is purely by a free app, that can be of arbitrary complexity like video games because people don't have to do it? (As long as the input and output are straightforward.) I was pondering a similar question: are people ready for the dice recognition software that Xaelvaen mentioned? I mean, the founding Dungeon Masters would roll in their graves at the privacy issues involved in the DM's die rolls being known, if only to a computer. But players seem to think it's cool, like they have and never will have anything to hide. :)
  • 01:30 PM - Maxperson quoted Blue in post Vancian to Zelaznian magic
    I'm not quite sure how this works in practice. Can you walk me through this. Say I'm a 6th level wizard. IF I want to cast spells quickly I need ot pre-cast them. So is this mean at some point actually picking a number of spells and taking time to cast them? Does that mean ahead of time I think of what I could want to do with my slots and pre-cast? If I may want to cast Lightning Bolt once or twice, Haste once or twice, Counterspell but likely once max, and Scortching Ray uplifted to 3rd once (for more precise targeting) or False like upast to 3rd level once that I then spend the time to pre-cast all of them at ritual speeds? (Plus all of how I want to do my lower level spells.) And it still locks me out of doing something like casting Copunterspell twice with my two 3rd level slots? It seems like the time spent pre-casting is dependant on spells in your spellbook (expanding ever level if not more from found/bought spells) times spell slots and how you might want to use them, with ...
  • 08:21 AM - KentDT quoted Blue in post Vancian to Zelaznian magic
    That's a problematic amount of flexibility. For example, there are a lot of out of combat spells that overlap what other classes do. Invisibility, Knock, Longstrider, Unseen Servant (for setting off traps), Detect Thoughts, etc. Heck, Disintegration. Being able to not only mimic much of what another single character can do, but being able to replace for multiple classes since it's any spell in your book - that really steps on toes. Add in things like regular fly spell on a melee combatant, renewed all day, regular divination, and other things of that nature can really impact the ability to run adventures. And this gets to be even more at higher levels. Imaging casting Wish to duplicate any other 8th level spell with just a minute or 2, as often as you want during the day. Cast Foresight without taking up your 9th level slot. Antipath/Sympathy - lasts 10 days, no concentration or expensive material component. How many Clone and Simulacrum spells can you cast in a day? Everyone in ...
  • 08:03 AM - KentDT quoted Blue in post Vancian to Zelaznian magic
    [QUOTE=Blue;7635193]These aren't apples to apples at all. If a core wizard casts all of their spells and the next day wants their same adventuring list, they spend zero time. With yours it's every day when renewing spell cast. Thanks, your replies are helping me to clarify things in my mind. This point exposes my thinking stuck in past editions, where it did work as I was thinking ie. if a wizard (or magic-user) cast all their spells they would have to re-memorize them the next day.


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