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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 08:01 AM
    I own many Dragonlance novels. I obviously love them, unfortunately many of them are hit and miss...though the best ones normally are written either by Weiss and Hickman, or Knaak, or Williams. Hate the Dawning of the 5th age books, they were horribly written, or at least not anything close to my tastes on what I enjoy to read.. This follows that some of the books are great, and some are...
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 07:52 AM
    I believe the idea of power sources and specifically the power sources listed in 4e could fall under copyright (and/or trademark). Same with the actual roles as defined in 4e (defender, controller, leader, etc). Just a heads up of some of the legal difficulties in this...though others can try to do it. They have more guts to try a direct copy on that account than I do.
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 07:42 AM
    I have to apologize. I am still working on it but as the update would be minimal, not posting an update this time around. I got sidetracked by the death of a close friend that weekend and other items. After that, during the week, I got a little morose and started playing video games rather than working on this...and then I got EXTREMELY sidetracked. There is this game called Forza...and...
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    Saturday, 8th June, 2019, 11:38 PM
    I actually started the poll after working on the Cleric and realizing how much work it was just for that one class (especially with essentials tossed in). For the next week I'm going to finish the Cleric (almost there), and then skip ahead to combat rules, skills and feats and then come back to the classes most likely. Next I'll work on integrating the essentials Fighter, Rogue, and Wizard...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 10:38 PM
    Similar to which is harder, multiplication or addition? For one who has learned elementary math, they can probably multiply 2x2 as easily as they could add 2+2. They could do an exam of 100 questions of easy addition (3+4, 7+2...etc) as quickly as they could multiplication (4x8, 3x6). However, for some multiplication will always feel harder than addition. The same probably also...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 10:07 PM
    I'm having to go to a (well, have is probably far too strong a word...am going) football (soccer) tournament over the next two days but will be back briefly on Saturday. Taking all the feedback, most won't probably be utilized until a revision/next draft after I finish getting it all down, but some of it will be seen in the next document I post in probably another week and a half.
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 03:11 PM
    That's a good question I haven't thought or pondered about. Need to get in the books to see how 4e handled it. Anyone have a pointer on this for rules?
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 03:08 PM
    This comes as a result of combining essentials and core. I utilized both ideas which gives more choices of what type of Cleric they would want
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 09:06 AM
    Personally, I'm privy to the Ranger and Bard, but not so keen on the Shaman. For classes which I absolutely cannot see how we could use the actual class name and would have to come up with some alternate class which is very similar...I've included various options (not final by anymeans, just thoughts on the matter).
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 09:01 AM
    As the title states, which classes would you prefer to see in a Clone of 4e. I don't think I'll have the time to put every class in the clone, so some of those that I include will be pared down. Some will have other names. Attempting to create a thread with a poll, hopefully this works and you can choose 8 options.
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:50 AM
    Okay, I've dragged it onto google docs, and then clicked share, but it wants me to names or email addresses? I might have figured this out, lets see if this works https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HeZGsWfpAjCIy7zfTW0QXUp3laifncLb/view?usp=sharing Tell me if the link works or not. If it doesn't if you could help me figure out what I did wrong, it would be appreciated.
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:28 AM
    So, not that it is going to make much difference, but I am currently working on a 4e clone with the OGL. After working on it with the original OGL versions...I've come to the conclusion it would be a LOT EASIER simply to use 5e rules (SRD) and create some classes that play in the "STYLE" of 4e. What I mean is that they use the powers system, or a simulacrum of it, while utilizing the 5e...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:20 AM
    The Cleric is mostly done at this point, but to post the entire class would take a lot more time and space (formatting doesn't translate well from Word to here, so I have to reformat every time I post from the document). What I've posted above should give you somewhat of a taste of how similar, and yet the changes that I had to make to it thus far. As I mentioned above, and will remention,...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:17 AM
    You can pick ONE CAS from each category as you level up (So one encounter and one Daily CAS at character creation, and then one CAS each time it is offered to you on leveling up). Clerical Level 1 Encounter CAS ____________________¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬__________________________________________________________ Cause Fear – Encounter CAS – Holy Symbol –Standard Action-Range...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:13 AM
    Choose 3 of the following Class CAS’s to use ____________________¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬__________________________________________________________ Boost – Faith adds to your ability Encounter CAS – Boost CAS –Free Action - Personal Effect – Get a +1 to your next Attack or Saving Throw...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:10 AM
    Classes All Classes can use the following abilities. ____________________¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬__________________________________________________________ Basic Melee Attack – Basic attack all characters can make At Will CAS – Weapon –Standard Action Attack – STR vs. AC Target – One Creature Hit = 1+STR Increase this to 2+STR at 21st level....
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:08 AM
    I could probably do Google Drive...as I have google accounts. Never done it that way. How do I make it so people can access Google Docs? Pretend I am your ignorant Grandpa on this (probably not too far off the mark for some of the younger people here) who is pretty ignorant on how technology works...so step by step could be useful.
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:07 AM
    Skill List – Acrobatics (DEX) Knowledge (Arcana) (INT) Athletics (STR) Bluff (CHA) Diplomacy (CHA) Knowledge (Dungeoneering) (INT) Endurance (CON) Healing (WIS) Knowledge (History) (INT)
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:06 AM
    Half-Elf Ability Scores = +2 Constitution, + 2 Charisma or +2 Wisdom Size – Medium Bonus - Infravision Speed – 6 (30 Feet) Languages – Common, Elfin, Choice of one other Skill Bonuses = +2 Diplomacy, +2 Insight Vagabond Experience – At Character creation when you choose a class, you can choose a third anytime CAS. This comes from another class other than your primary class that you...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 08:01 AM
    Dragonforged A warrior race evolved from the same genetic line as Dragons, but along a different evolutionary path where they stand more as humans and demihumans in size and form than the Dragons. Though they may start at a lower level of power than their kin, they have the ability to surpass even the dragons in ability. Ability Scores = +2 Strength, +2 Charisma Size – Medium Speed – 6 (30...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:58 AM
    Characters can gain another level every 150,000 Experience up to level 40, and every 250,000 Experience for each level there after. Ability scores increase as follows…gain +1 to 2 ability scores every 4+10 levels and 8+10 levels (so after level 30 it would be 34, 38, 44, 48, 54, 58, etc and so on). Gain +1 to every ability score (or all of them) ever 1+10 levels (so after level 30 it would be...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:57 AM
    Level Experience Ability Score Feats Powers (Encounter/Daily/Situational) 1 0 - 1 1/1/0 2 1,000 - 2 1/1/1 3 2,000 - 2 2/1/1 4 3,500 +1 to 2 3 2/1/1 5 5,000 - 3 2/2/1 6 7,500 - 4 2/2/2 7 10,000 - 4 3/2/2 8 13,000 +1 to 2 5 3/2/2 9 16,000 - 5 3/3/2
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:54 AM
    Levels of Play There are 4 Levels of Play of the game. They are Veteran – These are the small town heroes of their area. They are already trained and hardened with experience in adventures and decision making. This is the stage where your characters begin and are typically between levels 1-10 Mastery – This is the Level of Play where characters are at the height of their abilities. ...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:53 AM
    Alignment helps to define a Characters actions and guide a Player in playing a role for that character in trying to have a character that acts in certain ways. Alignment works on two axis’s that of Good/Evil and that of Law/Chaos. If viewed in a more linear fashion, even though the alignment works on two axis, there are certain alignments viewed more socially “good” and those that are more...
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:52 AM
    Some wording changes, that HAD to be made. Prayers, Spells, Tricks, powers, etc = CAS = Combat Action System Burst = Explosive Blast = Explosive Shift = Move Healing Surge = Healing Reaction Bloodied = Injured Range=Range Melee=Melee
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    Thursday, 6th June, 2019, 07:42 AM
    So I'm back, but only for a short while and then off again for a while. I've written up about 60 pages worth, but need a place to put the document. If for nothing else so people can d/l it and view it and talk their minds about it. I'll post much of what I've done, or at least some samples on it. Before beginning I would like to note that there are MANY clones that are not exactly like...
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  • 12:47 PM - Hussar mentioned GreyLord in post Chinese Government Burns Cthulhu RPG Print Run
    GreyLord - "When should we censor" is an excellent question. However, like all excellent questions, we do need to unpack it a bit before answering. 1. How do you define censorship? What was done to White Wolf, for example, was not censorship. No governments were involved. And, frankly, these were business decisions, not moral ones. People objected to the content, and voted with their wallets. For WW to not do anything would negatively hurt their profits going forward, so, action had to be taken to salvage their reputation. However, that's not censorship. That's free market economics at work. In this case though, it's clearly textbook censorship. A government is destroying works. This isn't a company trying to salvage their reputation, this is a government repressing what they feel are transgressive writings. It will only really muddy the waters if we conflate the two things. A company removing something because of negative fan reaction is very, very different from a...

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Tuesday, 12th December, 2017

  • 01:28 AM - Wulffolk mentioned GreyLord in post Xanathar’s Guide to Everything is the fastest-selling Dungeons & Dragons book of all time
    I think that's what he was saying. By NOT selling books you avoid oversaturating the market (something 4e did very well [aka the market got oversaturated] and even 3.5 as sales kept diminishing more and more and more with each book), but at the same time you miss out on all the money you MIGHT make if you sold more books. Thank you, GreyLord That is essentially what I was getting at. I would like to see a greater quantity of player option material, but not quite so much as 3.5e and PF. I would like to see WotC find a nice middle ground.

Friday, 30th October, 2015

  • 09:13 PM - El Mahdi mentioned GreyLord in post Warlord Name Poll
    ... @Blackwarder ; @Blue ; @Bluenose ; @brehobit ; @BryonD ; @Bupp ; @Campbell ; @CapnZapp; @CaptainConundrum ; @CaptainGemini ; @Carlsen Chris ; @casterblaster ; @CasvalRemDeikun; @cbwjm ; @ccooke ; @Celebrim ; @Celondon @ChameleonX ; @Charles Wright ; ChrisCarlson; @CM ; @cmad1977 ; @costermonger ; @Creamsteak ; @Crothian ; @Cybit ; @Dausuul; @Dayte ; @dd.stevenson ; @DEFCON 1 ; @Delazar ; @DersitePhantom ; @Diffan ; @discosoc; @D'karr ; @Doc Klueless ; @doctorbadwolf ; @DonAdam ; @Dragoslav ; @Duganson; @EdL ; @EditorBFG ; @Edwin Suijkerbuijk ; @Eejit ; @ehren37 ; @Elfcrusher ; @El Mahdi ; @epithet; @erf_beto ; @Eric V ; @eryndel ; @Evenglare ; @ExploderWizard ; @EzekielRaiden; @Fedge123 ; @fendak ; @FireLance ; @Fishing_Minigame ; @Flamestrike ; @FLexor the Mighty! ; @Forged Fury ; @Fragsie ; @Fralex ; @FreeTheSlaves ; @froth ; @Gadget; @Galendril ; @GameOgre ; @Garthanos ; @Ghost Matter ; @Giltonio_Santos ; @Gimul; @GMforPowergamers ; @Gnashtooth ; @Green1 ; @GreenKarl ; @Greg K ; @GreyLord; @Grimmjow ; @Grydan ; @GX.Sigma ; @Halivar ; @HEEGZ ; @Hemlock ; @Henry ; @Herobizkit; @Hussar; @IchneumonWasp ; @I'm A Banana ; @Imaro ; @Iosue ; @Irennan ; @JackOfAllTirades; @jacktannery ; @jadrax ; @Jaelommiss ; @JamesTheLion ; @JamesonCourage ; @JasonZZ; @jayoungr ; @JediGamemaster ; @JeffB ; @Jester Canuck ; @jgsugden ; @jodyjohnson; @Joe Liker ; @JohnLynch ; @Johnny3D3D ; @KarinsDad ; @kerbarian ; @kerleth ; @Kinak; @KingsRule77 ; @Kirfalas ; @Kobold Stew ; @koga305 ; @Lanefan ; @Lanliss ; @Leatherhead; @Libramarian ; @Li Shenron ; @LuisCarlos17f ; @lowkey13 ; @Manbearcat ; @MarkB; @MechaPilot ; @Mecheon ; @mellored ; @Mephista ; @Mercule ; @MG.0 ; @MichaelSomething; @Miladoon ; @Minigiant ; @Mishihari Lord ; @Mistwell ; @MoogleEmpMog ; @Mon @MonkeezOnFire ; @MoonSong(Kaiilurker) ; @MostlyDm ; @Mouseferatu ; @MoutonRustique; @Nemesis Destiny ; @neobolts ; @Neonchameleon ; @Nifft ; @nightspaladin ; @nomotog; @n00bdragon ; @Obryn ; @Ohillion ; @oknazevad ; @Olgar Shiverstone ; @...

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  • 05:41 AM - Meatboy mentioned GreyLord in post The Slaughter House: How dropping attributes will improve DnD
    GreyLord and Shemeska All too true. As much as I feel the way stats are set up isn't helping I really couldn't see WoTC doing anything so drastic. But with a new edition around the corner, especially one supposedly set up around modularization a guy can dream. shidaku I wasn't really thinking along the lines of multiple boxes. More like if your character is "strong"+x to hit and damage and strength skills or something. Maybe one for class, one for race and one for fun? There'd still be numbers I just feel that we don't roll a d6 to determine starting level so why do it for the rest of the stuff? Umbran Yes most stuff in the game is a personal preference. But with the touted modularity why not make stats a module? ;)

Monday, 18th November, 2013

  • 02:38 PM - Kinak mentioned GreyLord in post What's after Golarion? (and what's the future of Pathfinder?)
    ...ough to keep going for a long, long time. And, for each AP, there'll be some companion products for the areas and concepts it touches on. For example, we'll be getting our first in-depth look at Numeria around GenCon next year because that's where the winter 2014 AP is set. But there hasn't been an AP set in Isger or Galt or Rahadoum or a dozen other countries, so only a handful of those have books about them. The real question is why they'd risk splitting their playerbase by releasing a new setting. This leads me to the question of how Golarion is handled: is there some sort of ongoing history or is it a static world? Do the many APs leave their mark on the world?Basically static. The APs don't leave a mark unless you run them and decide they do for the purpose of your campaigns. Which makes sense. Otherwise, you'd have APs conflicting with the setting ("The queen is acting strangely." "You mean the one the setting books say got killed by a party of adventurers last year?"). @GreyLord is right that Shattered Star assumes you've run some earlier ones (mostly Rise of the Runelords). But the setting as a whole doesn't assume any of those are done already. Cheers! Kinak

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  • 11:32 PM - Yaarel quoted GreyLord in post 4e Clone − help create it!
    I believe the idea of power sources and specifically the power sources listed in 4e could fall under copyright (and/or trademark). Same with the actual roles as defined in 4e (defender, controller, leader, etc). Just a heads up of some of the legal difficulties in this...though others can try to do it. They have more guts to try a direct copy on that account than I do. I create the following. There are four ‘styles’: divine, void, arcane, and worldly. These styles are methods or modes or ways. They correspond roughly to the 4e sources: divine, shadow, arcane, and martial. Each style can engage four ‘realms’: matter, life, mind, and force. I will update the Grid in the post above. The names ‘divine’ and ‘arcane’ are plainly ok to use. But other source names are concerning. Fortunately, the role names are less relevant here. Strictly speaking, D&D 5e lacks class sources. Of course, it has the names ‘divine’ and ‘arcane’. But these only refer to kinds of magic, rather than kin...

Sunday, 9th June, 2019

  • 12:52 AM - R_Chance quoted GreyLord in post Jonathan Tweet: Prologue to Third Edition
    Good point. I just went with what I head it most as. Originally I think many used it in the same way they had To Hit Armor Class Zero (Tac 0) or even T'hac 0, and then, by some, even THAC0 for those who even used the term. MOST (that i knew personally, which is definitely not an indicator of anything in application to a majority of players at the time) didn't even use the term related to T.H.A.C.0. for D&D and simply would say to hit or something else. Those who did could have various pronounciations, but later on I've heard it more often pronounced THACO instead as the term gained general use after 2e. So, I went with what ws most common. It may be related to where I was during those time periods as to why I heard the pronunciations that I did. Linguistic drift. In RPG spoken terminology :) It's funny, broadcast media struck a blow at it but the written word, be it book or internet, is still subject to it. Its the type of thing which given time / distance / separation created new d...

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  • 11:56 PM - Hussar quoted GreyLord in post Jonathan Tweet: Prologue to Third Edition
    /snip From another Thread....whether THAC0 was Tak Zero, or TAKO...depends on whether you were a 1e gamer or 2e gamer. It was from To Hit Armor Class Zero and thus was Thack Zero for the DMG and 1e. /snip We always pronounced it thaco, as in rhyming with taco. Why would anyone pronounce a "TH" as anything other than the "TH" sound? Unless you talk talk like Tweetie bird I suppose.
  • 05:51 PM - Azzy quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    Okay, I've dragged it onto google docs, and then clicked share, but it wants me to names or email addresses? I might have figured this out, lets see if this works https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HeZGsWfpAjCIy7zfTW0QXUp3laifncLb/view?usp=sharing Tell me if the link works or not. If it doesn't if you could help me figure out what I did wrong, it would be appreciated. Looks good. :)
  • 08:35 AM - Azzy quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    I could probably do Google Drive...as I have google accounts. Never done it that way. How do I make it so people can access Google Docs? Pretend I am your ignorant Grandpa on this (probably not too far off the mark for some of the younger people here) who is pretty ignorant on how technology works...so step by step could be useful. Drag and drop the file that you want to share to the Google Drive. After it uploads, righ-click on and select "Share"—it'll bring up a window asking how you want to share. You'll probably want either "View" or "Comment". After you select that, click on "get sharable link", and it give a link that you can copy and past to this thread (or anywhere else you want to share it to. I've provided an image to help. If you need anything else, just ask. 106866
  • 08:04 AM - Azzy quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    If someone knows where we could have a d/l spot (that has no spyware with it) that would also do in a pinch, especially for people to see the full document and evaluate what is being done as it progresses. Google Drive would be the most obvious choice. DropBox and OneDrive work, too. If you want more anonymity, you could try Mega or 4shared.

Sunday, 26th May, 2019

  • 12:24 AM - Tony Vargas quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    HOWEVER...what I do not see being able to be done is to have the classes of Avenger, Invoker, or Warden be classes that are even similar to those in the PHB 2 as there is no historical context in the way the D&D made them as classes as far as I'm aware of. No Goliaths, Deva's or shifters either. . The Warden and Avenger never gelled for me. I never did see where the former concept came from (beyond corner of Primal & Defender grid-filling - not that there's anything wrong with filling a grid, if you're gonna have one, anyway). And while the latter was clear enough I never quite got how it was intended to be played - didn't stop multiple players from having a great time playing one in my games, though. Anyway, actual topic, needing to scrub off the names like that really obviates some of the point of 'cloning,' in the first place, doesn't it?

Saturday, 25th May, 2019

  • 08:39 PM - Voadam quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    I was under the impression that the SRD didn't necessarily allow all of it to be used under the OGL, I could be mistaken though. If is covered as useable under the 3e OGL, then that would mean we are good to go with them. From page one of the 5e SRD: The following items are designated Product Identity, as defined in Section 1(e) of the Open Game License Version 1.0a, and are subject to the conditions set forth in Section 7 of the OGL, and are not Open Content: Dungeons & Dragons, D&D, Player’s Handbook, Dungeon Master, Monster Manual, d20 System, Wizards of the Coast, d20 (when used as a trademark), Forgotten Realms, Faerûn, proper names (including those used in the names of spells or items), places, Underdark, Red Wizard of Thay, the City of Union, Heroic Domains of Ysgard, Ever-­‐‑ Changing Chaos of Limbo, Windswept Depths of Pandemonium, Infinite Layers of the Abyss, Tart...
  • 07:57 AM - pemerton quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    You can't use Dragonborn, Warlords, Tieflings etc as they are not covered. Warlord should not be a problem in my opinion. Many OGL products have classes that have similar or the same name as D&D. WotC can copyright the Warlord as a specific thing, but the actual Word Warlord should be able to be used in an OGL product. Obviously, just as with the other classes (and this would apply to ANY class) it cannot be a copy and paste job and must be original and in accordance with the OGL. As Warlord as a description of a military leader has been in use for over a millennia, I do not see a difficulty in using it in the same context as it's dictionary definition for a class that operates as a leader. It should be fine using it as a class name in relation to the dictionary meaning which WotC cannot copyright (unless they take a LOT more than simply one small group to court). If people still feel it is problematic we could change it's term to Military officer or Regal, Noble, or something...
  • 04:36 AM - Voadam quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    Tiefling and Dragonborn also cannot be utilized. I'm more likely to go with the term of Dragonmen or Dracs or Dracomen instead for Dragonborn...Tieflings on the otherhand...unsure. The terms tiefling and dragonborn absolutely can be used. Tieflings are in the 3e srds in the monster section under planetouched and dragonborn are in the 5e srd and you can use OGC from any OGL product.

Thursday, 23rd May, 2019

  • 09:14 PM - Tony Vargas quoted GreyLord in post [4e] OSR Clone
    Not quite sure where to put it. Though the D&D forum but then noticed that this forum actually seems to have more 4e threads than the D&D forum presently. Yeah, that's due to past organization. This used to be PF & Older Editions, the 4e threads were started then and haven't all petered out yet. Now it's just PF. (Dunno why those other threads haven't just been moved.) Rightly, you should put this thread in the D&D forum, with the 4e tag. Until they change it again, anyway. This is a thread devoted specifically to a 4e clone that I will work on. Still trying to figure out which SRD or OGL (or PRD) I will be using. PRD could be the easiest to actually use to make it, though I'm open to any and all suggestions. PRD? 13th Age is often called out as similar to 4e, and Pelgrane has the "Archmage Engine" OGL for it. Might be easier starting from that? Working on a 4e OSR would mean I would want it to be able to be seamless with 4e, which would also include the XP tables for...
  • 08:41 PM - Yaarel quoted GreyLord in post Favourite D&D edition that’s not 5E
    I originally meant the OGL which came out with 3e/3.5 but I could look at using 5e's instead. With 5e I'm unsure if we could manipulate it to work with 4e's XP tables. Working on a 4e OSR would mean I would want it to be able to be seamless with 4e, which would also include the XP tables for 4e. If not the XP tables, at least something that can be somewhat similar to how 4e did XP (Pathfinder seems to have a closer XP table than 3e did, and closer at lower levels than 5e does...though if the 5e SRD allows us to change the XP tables I could change the numbers to be more in accordance with 4e XP advancement). Heh, personally, I dont use xp anyway. So I would ignore any xp table anyway. On average, players level up after 8 encounters. But an encounter that turns out to be heavy might count as two or three encounters. Oppositely, an encounter that turns out to be trivial only counts as half an encounter. Level up after the session when everybody agrees it feels right to level up. My sy...
  • 01:43 AM - CleverNickName quoted GreyLord in post Favourite D&D edition that’s not 5E
    Okay, with 4e keeping such a HUGE lead, if it keeps this up, this summer I'll devote time to make OSR 4e ruleset. That sounds like an awesome summer project! I'm a fan of retro-rules. At this very moment, the survey stands at 29.02% for 4e and 25.24% for 3.x. That's a lead of only 3.78%...so perhaps there is also enough interest for a 3e summer project. The SRD is still out there; maybe I'll cook something up.

Wednesday, 22nd May, 2019

  • 08:49 PM - doctorbadwolf quoted GreyLord in post Favourite D&D edition that’s not 5E
    I suspect the lack of a visible edition war vs 5Ed may have as much to do with ENWorld policy against edition warring as anything else. I say that because I know there are PLENTY of people in my area not adopting the new edition. They’re griping, but not as much online. Twitter is also vastly more positive about 5e than it was about 4e. It's also more positive about 4e than it was several years ago, actually. Though they've proven futile, the point of them is to get a decent, official, Warlord in 5e - not warring against 5e. Right. Those threads are full of two kinds of people A. Those who like Warlords and 5e, and disagree with the statements sacrosanct quoted about why Warlords don't work or whatever. (seriously, there isn't any less a consensus amongst warlord fans than amongst paladin or ranger fans) 2. Thread crappers who have nothing useful to add to the thread, but instead just seem to want to crap on the thread premise, and every thought presented by those who are genuinely enga...
  • 06:30 AM - Parmandur quoted GreyLord in post Mike Mearls interview re: Ghosts of Saltmarsh
    In all honesty, Mass Combat rules ARE a section of rules that are missing overall for 5e, and there are many that would like to see such rules I imagine. The interesting thing isn't so much that they are thinking about mass combat rules because they have been toying with that for years, as that the vehicle rules actually evolved out of what were first mass combat rules that haven't been broadcast yet (Mearls said they would be in UA "sometime soon").

Friday, 17th May, 2019

  • 05:41 PM - Elfcrusher quoted GreyLord in post New Tariffs On RPGs Printed In China
    Tariffs are not necessarily a BAD thing. It's all about perspective, right? I mean, you could say that a global pandemic that wiped out 90% of the human population isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you are, say, a rhinoceros. Or a tree.

Thursday, 16th May, 2019


Sunday, 5th May, 2019

  • 10:06 PM - MNblockhead quoted GreyLord in post Paizo To Make Kingmaker Bestiary... For D&D 5E!
    What does LFQW stand for? [Goes to Google] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards Nope. This was not a factor for me diving into 5e. I'm not a "new" gamer, but I stopped playing with 1e and other 80s era games around 1990 when I was at college. Got back into TTRPGs with 5e. Have to say that there was not much analysis that went into my decision. Certainly not to level of studying character power progression. I took to 5e, which got me back into TTRPGs, mainly because of feelings. It "felt" like D&D. It was evocative, it was easy(ier) to learn, and it was accessible (easy to find people to play with). If I wanted to play a heavily crunchy game, I'd get back into running miniature wargames. I was really into that in the 80s as well. But I don't have the time and there is something magical about TTRPGs that I cherish and that magic is not in the tactical combat rules. As for LFQW, even that I now know what you are referring do, can't say I would care. ...
  • 08:11 PM - CapnZapp quoted GreyLord in post Paizo To Make Kingmaker Bestiary... For D&D 5E!
    I personally do not feel the LFQW thing is even a FACTOR with how popular 5e has become. If THAT was the deciding factor, 4e would have won the gambit by a long mile. 5e is successful because it is FAR easier to general people to learn, and when new players are coming to a game, ease of use is a major factor. Eventually some may want something different, but for new players, 5e currently is one of the easiest games to learn within a short period that fall under the popular name brand of D&D (aka...any type of game that would fall under the D20 mechanic of games). It has nothing to do with LFQW per se, and more to do with the fact that a LOT OF NEW gamers are coming into RPGs and are actually able to figure out how to play with a minimum amount of trouble and confusion. That's the real key to 5e's success today. It is attracting NEW gamers, rather than just appealing to old gamers who keep bringing up old thoughts such as LFQW and other relics of a bygone age of angst and discussion about ...


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