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Tuesday, 11th June, 2019

  • 04:54 PM - Riley37 quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    Thatís a risky step to take for any group/institution. Itís one thing to fire someone or ban them from your premises or events. Itís another to broadcast that personís name to the public. There are risks in naming the individual. One can sometimes mitigate those risks by stating only the most empirical facts: "we have, in the past, entrusted (individual name) with DM duties at (convention name), and as of the current con, we will no longer entrust (name) with DM roles." Astute readers may wonder what story lies behind this decision, and may find out - but hey, the con didn't make any public statements beyond literal and verifiable facts. There are also risks in NOT naming the individual. One of the latter risks, is that when word gets around, about "that DM who ran Things from the Flood", and there are two DMs who ran Things from the Flood games at UK Expo 2019: the omission of Rolfe's name, increases the risk that people will mistakenly blame the *other* TftF DM for Rolfe's actions. Anot...

Friday, 7th June, 2019

  • 02:54 PM - Bagpuss quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    In other words a return to the climate in which the details never get out, the press never get wind of it (or ignore it if they do) and nobody gets called out for inappropriate content.No they still get called out by the people actually involved in the incident. The person still has to answer to the UKGE, and the players at their table.
  • 01:45 PM - Bagpuss quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    No, Bagpuss, who decried the current climate (in which people who run rape scenarios at cons get called on their :):):):)).Did you not read my clarification on what I meant by the climate? It was mainly to do with the public shaming before the full details are out, not helped by the presses need to publish incorrect stories without talking to the parties involved.Nothing to do with not calling someone out for inappropriate content.
  • 01:14 PM - Sadras quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    Yes? Thatís not exaggerating at all. Itís a perfectly rational reading of some posters comments.The single dude that got banned from this thread? I believe every other poster agreed with the banning of the individual from running games at future cons. Disagreement only occured on shunning him from the community at large. No one is asking for any return for a particular climate. EDIT: Everyone's pretty much on the same page here.

Thursday, 6th June, 2019

  • 08:35 PM - quoted macd21 in post Massive $750 10-Book "The Enemy Within Collectorís Edition" From Cubicle 7
    Perhaps you need to work on your own reading comprehension a bit more? You complained that C7 were scamming their customers because they were releasing an old adventure for $750. This is, as anyone who actually read the announcement should know, not true. They are releasing a revamped an improved version of the old adventure campaign, along with additional supplements. They are also releasing a limited edition version of same, which will go for much more. It's not a scam, and if you want value for money you go for the cheaper option. Or in other words, you were wrong. What a scam was hyperbole, it means an obvious exaggeration and I think deserved, if it wasn't obvious I've already explained what I mean when people told me it is a product for other people (which is obvious), posts that you've already read. And my opinion is not wrong, it doesn't need to be corrected, this is not about being correct or wrong, you can agree or disagree, that's all.
  • 07:48 PM - quoted macd21 in post Massive $750 10-Book "The Enemy Within Collectorís Edition" From Cubicle 7
    Baffled more than bothered. Youíre complaining about people being given the option to buy a limited edition of a product. I cannot comprehend why you would have an issue with it. I didn't complain about that, I've complained about the lack of value, at this point my only issue is with people who get triggered when they don't like an opinion and tergiverse it or the ones that simply have reading comprehension problems.
  • 10:27 AM - quoted macd21 in post Massive $750 10-Book "The Enemy Within Collectorís Edition" From Cubicle 7
    You seem weirdly bothered by the fact that theyíre releasing something you donít want. And you with my opinion.

Wednesday, 5th June, 2019

  • 12:09 PM - quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    Thankfully the organizers of UKGE (and, I would suspect, most other cons) donít agree with you, and expect GMs to maintain certain standards of decency even for 18+ games. Good, as I said if they have their rules people should follow them, no need to convince me of something I'm really convinced. Let me know what is allowed in those cons and we talk about ethics and decency.

Tuesday, 4th June, 2019

  • 06:15 PM - Dannyalcatraz quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    I believe he has a Kickstarter for a game thatís 4 years late. I donít do Kickstarters as a rule, but itís possible someone griped about it here, so he could have popped up on my radar that way.
  • 03:18 PM - Bagpuss quoted macd21 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    Because the default assumption when joining a game is that youíre doing it to have fun. Sure, if youíre running a game and state youíre planning to run an unpleasant game, thatís fine. Good luck getting players. You'd be surprised, Monsterhearts tackles pretty adult themes and sexuality. The Vampire Skin for example can force another PC or NPC to do exactly what they want regardless of the what the target wants, the Skin is about exploring the concept of consent. Every character can use "Turn Someone On" to make the target attracted to them. You can put an "adult themes, sex, violence, drug taking, bullying and abusive language" warning on and still get players. But at a Con? Without explicitly warning people first? No. Thatís just abusing your position as a GM to force your edgelordness onto unsuspecting victims. Strikes me as the kind of thing someone does because no one who knows him will actually play with him anymore. I think we can agree the guy in the news article is a dick however...

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