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    Yesterday, 11:15 PM
    Really? It would appear that you don’t understand the argument made by anyone else. I mean- how many posts, and you still don’t seem to grok that people don’t agree with you. That said, if you’re correct then it is completely legal in all AL games. Is it? Should be simple enough to find out. Instead of continually asserting something others disagree with.
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    Yesterday, 10:56 PM
    Citation please. So, are you saying that you played at the time, but you played the wrong way? Or ...maybe not? PS- Given I know my experience, but love to know other people's, I started a separate thread to gauge actual play: https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?660258-1e-and-OD-amp-D-How-did-you-handle-Druids-and-Armor-Clerics-and-Edge-Weapons
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    Yesterday, 10:53 PM
    So, a different thread about druids and metallic armor in 5e has repeatedly referenced the way Druids were in OD&D / 1e, and how there wasn't really a rule about classes and so on so forth. Anyway, with the usual caveat of "Everyone played AD&D/OD&D" in a different way, I was looking to do a thread to see how people actually played OD&D and AD&D from 1976 - April 1985.* So here's the...
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    Yesterday, 10:18 PM
    By the way, the actual Gygaxian method of handling the Plate-wearing druid, or the two-handed sword-weilding cleric, is DMG p. 110. Here- Some players will find more enjoyment in spoiling a game than in playing it, and this ruins the fun for the rest of the participants, so it must be prevented. Those who enjoy being loud and argumentative, those who pout or act in a childish manner when...
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    Yesterday, 10:00 PM
    You are just making stuff up now. I assume you played OD&D and 1e, correct? So you understand that while people played in all sorts of different ways, the mindset was completely different back then? I understand you have repeatedly ignored the whole class/lore issue, but ... c'mon. Are you going to be seriously arguing that you understand how Clerics used edged weapons in OD&D and 1e so...
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    Yesterday, 09:00 PM
    So, if you haven't noticed, thought I'd share- Neon Genesis Evangelion is out on Netflix. It wasn't previously available. If you aren't familiar with it, then, well, you probably aren't too familiar with anime, but if you're looking for an entry point... eh, this isn't it. ;)
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    Yesterday, 08:18 PM
    No. What you mean is the Weapon Proficiency Table on p. 36. So go through this, assuming some knowledge of 1e: Let's use the Druid as an example: You start with a number of proficiencies, for a Druid, 2. That means you get to choose 2 of your allowed weapons - for a Druid, you can choose between club, dagger, dart, hammer, scimitar, sling, spear, and staff. A total of eight (8)...
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    Yesterday, 07:59 PM
    I hear what you're saying, and I understand your point; that said, you should consider the following two issues in tandem: 1. When you say you are "anti-elitism" (as opposed to anti-intellectual?), this is similar to a battle that many of us fought when we were young. Quite frankly, I am perfectly happy to have read my books and been all nerdy; there is something distinctly disturbing, to me,...
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    Yesterday, 06:04 PM
    Well, maybe. But notice how you and others describe the "not your style." Previously, it was described as funny voices. Now, it's-
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    Yesterday, 05:44 PM
    Alchemy Jug 28 Bag of Holding 30 Bag of Tricks 25 Broom of Flying 23 Carpet of Flying 24 Cube of Force 2 It's bigger on the inside is a line from Dr. Who, not a great magic item.
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    Yesterday, 05:37 PM
    So, there's this. And also, this- Paul Farquhar Let's examine the history a little, first. Druids are probably the most poorly-understood class in terms of history. Let's start with the actual text (Eldritch Wizardry, Supp. 3, OD&D) where the Druid first crossed over from monster to PC.
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 09:32 PM
    Completely agree. Well ... mostly agree. I think that, like a lot of Sage Advice, it's poorly considered. Even the Sage Advice in the compendium which tends to be less stupid than most SA. I could start by saying that I don't care that much about "balance," but the real issue for balance is the whole Moon / Land Druid thing; I don't think that they really paid much attention to that. ...
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 09:27 PM
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 09:26 PM
    Post #229 Alchemy Jug 29 Bag of Holding 30 Bag of Tricks 27 Broom of Flying 26 Carpet of Flying 28 Cube of Force 20​ Cubic Gate 13
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 09:19 PM
    Are you every curious why people may not view your analysis of rules as overly credible? So, let's just review this. Here is EXACTLY what I wrote that you quoted: "2. Sage advice is just RAI." So, just so we are clear, we all know that RAI is not the Italian TV Broadcaster, but instead means Rules As Interpreted.
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 08:25 PM
    1. The rules do say that. Period. 2. Sage advice is just RAI. So best case scenario, you're still wrong. And you're not reading the RAI correctly (which says you have to ask the DM, just like any other house rule). Bad cherrypicking is still cherrypicking. Good luck!
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 07:11 PM
    Let's see- Druid:Class Features:Proficiencies: "Armor: Light armor, medium armor, shields (druids willnot wear armor or use shields made of metal)" P. 65, PHB Seem like a not rule to me! Wait, let's look at the MULTICLASSING PROFICIENCIES GAINED!
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 05:03 PM
    Fair enough. Talk to the DM about your 'shroom dude. :) (By the way, the whole lore/mechanics thing? That was kinda sorta the joke from the first post on, when the OP said that this NEVER EVER happened in any prior edition of D&D, when, in fact, this was the case for most of D&D's history.)
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 04:46 PM
    Not to be too obvious, but: Why is it that there are, largely, two groups of people in this debate. The first sees the druid restriction, understands it for what it is, and are like, "Okay, cool, if other people disagree with it, then they can just houserule it." The second attempts to make various arguments that UNLESS the rule is perfect, then THE RULE DOESN'T APPLY. Now, notice how...
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 04:04 PM
    Woah ... I know creole.
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 03:55 PM
    There are two types of people in this world: (1) People that play Paladins; (2) people that do not rage, rage against the dying of the smite; and (3) the innumerate.
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 03:42 PM
    By RAW they are not, however, Druids. So, they can't. Let's see how silly this semantic game can be with rules lawyers. C'mon, it's fun for the whole table! It says that a Knight's retainer "will not" follow me into a dangerous area, like a Dungeon. (PHB 136). But it doesn't say that they will EXPLODE. Therefore, they follow me into the dungeon. It says that if a Paladin violates...
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 02:57 PM
    So, I won't comment on your other thread (so as not to derail it), but I would note the following as general comments: 1. While I have not played the game, I have read Vance extensively, including The Dying Earth. As a kid, I loved this series (APPENDIX N!), with the whole baroque language and wordplay (kind of like a starter set to Oscar Wilde) and some black comedy with the wit ... but I...
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    Friday, 21st June, 2019, 01:49 PM
    Alchemy Jug 28 Bag of Holding 25 Bag of Tricks 29 Broom of Flying 27 Carpet of Flying 27 Crystal Ball 4 Cube of Force 19 Cubic Gate 19 I WILL FIGHT AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF HOLDING!
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 10:19 PM
    So, I know some of us (me, at least) are having some fun. But, to be serious for a second- A lot of this will depend on communication and presentation. There are very few DMs that I know that enjoy or look forward to a player presenting a "list of grievances" or lengthy explanations as to why core mechanics do not apply their special character. In many campaigns (such as mine), that player...
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 10:01 PM
    I recommend adding a third rule. List of Grievances > /dev/null
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 09:56 PM
    I just make it easy on players. Player: "I wanna play a druid." DM: "Ok." Player: "I wanna play a druid that can wear plate." DM: "Um, no?"
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 08:24 PM
    "You know that cereal? Grapenuts? .... so, about the casting of Stoneskin ...."
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 08:15 PM
    With a real druid, you're lucky if they even wear clothes. "Radagast! Put the sack back on. We don't need to see your shillelagh and goodberries."
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 08:03 PM
    Woah, now! If someone is going to harangue me over my choices, I at least want them to have the courage of their convictions.* I don't want someone moaning about my yummy al pastor taco if they are drinking a milkshake. They need to be sickly and dairy-free.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 08:00 PM
    I think you're missing the joke? The first 25 years was OD&D, AD&D, B/X, BECMI, and 2e. I think your opinion of those editions ... is probably a little different than those of just about everyone else. If you are stating that there was never any removal of player agency (MAN, THAT TERM IS THE GOOD STUFF!), then I have some a Gygaxian Ethereal Mummy to sell you, cheap.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 04:33 PM
    I coulda taken an acting class. I coulda been an actah. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 04:27 PM
    Well, I mean, look .... if Marvel can make Guardians of the Galaxy work and be a hit, I wouldn't put anything past them. Why not Squirrel Girl? But the particular dynamics and powers of the FF are just ... not nearly as relevant as they were. IOW, to the extent that you can retcon their origin, change around some stuff, and call it FF, why not? But I don't know that the particular FF dynamics...
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 03:58 PM
    Sounds like a labradoodle,* except twice an annoying and five times as needy. A Paladruid, though, is usually known by a more common name- the Evangelizing Vegan. /ducks *EDIT- Bonus cool hybrid animal portmanteau: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/narluga-very-strange-hybrid-whale/592057/
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 03:46 PM
    Um, I think I commented earlier (Living Steel), but I remembered another one- Cyborg Commando. IIRC, it had all the worst aspects of late-period Gygaxian (tables, rules that didn't make sense, completely unnecessary math) and none of the advantages (fun, sense of adventure and wonder, verbose language that serves the game). At the time, there was a fair amount of excitement about it....
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 03:32 PM
    ...."morally abhorrent." BWAH! I need to have this thread mainlained straight into my veins. "So, I don't let druids wear metal armor." "WHAT ARE YOU, A BABY KILLER???!!!!!???"
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 03:27 PM
    NORTHSTAR! I agree about representation ... we would need a Canadian, right? I think Keanu can play Canadian- Idaho is in Canadia, right? He did that movie with River Phoenix? Namor would be a good choice.* But wait .... I think I have it. How about .... Captain Britain.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 01:44 PM
    Counter-counterpoint. Typical play for AD&D was whatever I was playing. Atypical play for AD&D was whatever you were playing. -From personal experience, I would say that the game was marketed for 3 or more; the modules would often say anywhere from 4 to 10 players, as they were often, or usually, designed for, or out of, competition or conventions early on. My experience was that many...
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 01:35 PM
    Counterpoint- All druids cannot wear metal, and reek of patchouli.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 01:12 PM
    .....um..... ..ahh...... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *sniffle* I am not sure that you are using the terms "rule" and "edition" and "D&D" in the same way that most people do.
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 12:56 PM
    lowkey13 started a thread Keanu in the MCU
    So, if you've followed the other thread here- https://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?659444-John-Wick-3-Should-You-See-It ...then you know the following: 1. John Wick 3 is the greatest movie of all time, and should be given all awards, ever. 2. The John Wick franchise is the greatest cinematic universe in the history of cinema and universes, including but not limited to other...
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 12:45 PM
    Sorta? If I remember to always quote as "plain text" then yes. Has this gotten sorted yet? Has this gotten sorted yet?
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    Thursday, 20th June, 2019, 12:40 PM
    Alchemy Jug 30 Bag of Holding 25 Bag of Tricks 27 Broom of Flying 27 Carpet of Flying 26 Crystal Ball 11 Cube of Force 23 Cubic Gate 18 When God hands you a Bag of Holding,
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    Wednesday, 19th June, 2019, 07:54 PM
    Let's see. In order, the "BIG" settings in D&D are as follows, in rough order of use/importance: BIG AND GENERIC-Y Forgotten Realms Greyhawk Mystara Nentir Vale
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    Wednesday, 19th June, 2019, 06:01 PM
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 09:07 PM
    Well, more reliable is an objective statement (usually). You can give it a metric, and then say something is, or isn't, more reliable. Not "better." Not even "better designed." Because design incorporate other elements- and designing for reliability might get rid of other aspects that you do appreciate. Or you might just not care about reliability in comparison to other things. There's an...
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 07:13 PM
    This shouldn't be too hard. "I want to design a car that works great for a lot of things. Not just driving fast, or looking good, or gas mileage, or any one thing. I want a vehicle that is functional for all things. It's pretty good at stuff, and carries stuff too. " Voila, the minivan. You have a design goal, and you achieve it. It's functional. Does that mean that a person MUST...
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 05:40 PM
    I'm just going to quote this part for the "whoosh" component. Look, I'm not asserting anything. But just labeling things and defining them doesn't mean you don't keep confusing your subjective standards for an objective standard. Let me show you, one final time, the difference: Objective: 4e had a design objective of doing away with so-called "LFQW," and allowing each character class...
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 05:21 PM
    Joshua Randall - Let me assist: Objective: "allowed any stat to be an attack stat" Subjective: "produced the best monster books ever produced for any D&D edition, bar none ... and the Monster Vault and MV Threats to the Nentir Vale are in the top 10 of all gaming books ever"
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 03:52 PM
    So, I'm just going to say two things I have noticed, and I hope you take them in the spirit of a good-faith conversation: The first is that I have noticed that you often state your playstyle preferences as if they were fact; which is not conducive to a good conversation! There is a difference between normative (what ought to be) and descriptive (what is). Now, you might have very strong...
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    Tuesday, 18th June, 2019, 02:59 PM
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 10:26 PM
    So, w/r/t and what Umbran said earlier, I am reminded about the controversies over the introduction of the original Thief class. One of the issues with introducing the class was that people were worried that if you introduced a Thief with certain defined skills (like Hide in Shadows) that would mean that individuals who were not Thieves could not perform the skill. Moreover, once you start to...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 10:04 PM
    Well, that's what I was trying to think of- the APs seem much, much, much longer! X2 (Castle Amber) I've run several times in 5e- love it (although the ending is anti-climactic without revisions because of the 5e "one monster" problem). I3-I5 is the still the gold standard, IMO.
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 09:57 PM
    I didn't want to comment on the rest of your post, but something stuck with me, and I went back, and this was it. There is a large disconnect if you keep insisting (as I have seen various designers insist) that the consumers are "just doing it wrong." Let's give an easy example- a lot of what you hear is engineered to please you. Like ... the thunk of your car door when it closes. You may,...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 09:33 PM
    Well, the difference being that this would be the release of a system that is no longer supported, and isn't very popular (no offense). I am sure that there would be some 3PP that would seize the chance to take it out for a spin, but, yeah, given that it wouldn't have D&D behind it, it wouldn't go very far. So ... yeah. (Now, given the general risk-adverseness of corporations, I would be...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 09:13 PM
    Well, I should start by saying that I'm not making an "argument." It's more of an analysis of the various claims (and counterclaims) that I see flying around about 4e; I decided to finally get around to researching them, and this is what I think of these main claims. That said, quality is completely subjective, right? I mean, someone who grew up in the 80s can say that in 1984, The Adevntures...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 08:49 PM
    So, I agree with you re: need. I've played diceless games that allow for narrative combat. And it is certainly possible to have games with social rules (and many do). ...that said, I think the reason for this split is somewhat clear. As originally conceived, D&D had a somewhat ... mixed ... nature. In fact, the best way to think of it is to think of old- school CRPGs, when you are just...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 08:14 PM
    I'm going to post a few thoughts on this, while noting that some of your statements are not going to be agreeable, and that may be why certain things are missed by you (such as 3e and 4e merely "consolidating" "needless complexity" of prior editions). Necessary Disclaimer I don't care about any edition wars; I think everything since UA in 1985 is, for the most part, crud, and 5e is ......
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 06:23 PM
    I mean, I often adapted modules into whatever campaign I was running at the time. I often wonder, looking back, how I possibly had time for this, as well as everything else I was up to! Ah, youth. But it did make me think- if people had trouble finishing the 1e modules, how on earth are people finishing the APs? Anecdotally, I know that some of the teen groups that I taught and gone off on...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 06:18 PM
    From 1e (since I know it best) Agree on the defined race/class themes and limitations. Playing without them is like playing tennis without a net. Don't care about uneven class progression, BUT ... I do miss uneven classes. You know what? Not everything needs perfect balance. You want to suffer as a Magic User for four levels, so you can kick butt later? More power to you! I miss saving...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 05:39 PM
    AD&D isn't 2e. Dem's fighting words. The first sign that AD&D was suffering from the consumption was the publication of Unearthed Arcana; the DSG and WSG was the coughing up of blood in bed; 2e was the final death rattle. ;) (I think that the individualized experiences of times past is often opaque, and while greater understandings can be achieved, true understanding is often elusive.)
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 05:20 PM
    It's not odd; as people have already alluded to, it's really going to depend on your campaign, and why you want to introduce the item. For purposes of illustration, allow me to use the original, old school, 1e (AD&D) Bag of Holding as an example. Now, how "useful" the Bag of Holding was depended entirely on the type of campaign you were in. I would argue that in 2/3 types of campaign, it...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 03:55 PM
    Communication & Negotiation, p. 104 PHB. Most DMs love communication and negotiations, for this allows them to assume an active role in actual play. Your referee will assume the persona proper to the creature your party is dealing with - be it shy and hostile, stupid, greedy, helpful, misinformed, or whatever. Intelligent monsters will always balance the offer versus the expectation. A lone...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 03:45 PM
    So, a recent comment in a thread had me thinking to myself, "Self, why do people say that all of AD&D was a certain way? Is this like a comedy routine? You know, 'Grognards be doin' it this way, and People that need to get off my lawn be doin' that way.'" Anyway, the specific thread/comment that had me thinking about this again is here- ...
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    Monday, 17th June, 2019, 02:50 PM
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 10:07 PM
    I appreciate your love of FR (truly, I do- I think you're one of the most knowledgeable FR people on this forum!), but .... that would not be for me. :) (As I've mentioned before, I prefer settings without stuff filled in; even post-1983 GH is way too cluttered for my taste.)
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 10:05 PM
    ????? Um ... maybe it's because I use a lot of words and stuff, or maybe it's because you don't read the footnotes and/or have not seen the greatest movie of all time, but I don't think I could have been more clear. Sometimes, I just like to see what people are thinking. In fact, that's almost all the times I start a thread. I'm more curious as to what other people think, because I know...
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 08:41 PM
    The novelization of the movie that's based on the book! Yeah, I saw that too. ;) Travis Henry Your desire is great. HOWEVER, the above quote encapsulates the problem. D&D is an RPG. As such, to make it a good reading experience, liberties have to be taken- with the rules, for example. No one wants to read a typical D&D combat ... to use one example. If you want, you can look at all...
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 08:08 PM
    "If you could put D&D into any other non middle ages genre, what would it be?" Middle ages genre? MIDDLE AGE??!??! Well, I mean, first of all, I resemble that comm... erm, I resent that comment. But if I had to change it up, I'd make D&D more of a hula hoop genre.
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 08:03 PM
    You can't. Narrative isn't core to RPGs. It's not like you can ever borrow narrative or literary techniques from books! The only way to engage for DMs and players to engage each other is with framing. Wordless, but meaningful, framing. :) /ducks
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 07:25 PM
    I think that is almost always the case, and I appreciate the candor. In fairness, does anyone ever know what they are trying to achieve? Or are we all more like dogs chasing cars? But I did notice that, since the beginning of the thread, you never really grappled with the use of RPGs in genre; specifically, humor.* So, how does framing sans narrative work in a humorous RPG? That's...
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 07:20 PM
    Well, I wish I was that enlightened! As you can tell from my other threads* I enjoy violence as much as the next person. It was more, "Why?" And specifically, "Why so much in the RPGs?" The predicate was, as I mentioned, re-visiting B2, which not only allowed a particular strain of hobomurder that was common in the late 70s and early 80s ... it encouraged it. Even to a "realistic" extent...
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    Sunday, 16th June, 2019, 06:03 PM
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:35 PM
    Interesting! Thank you for the link. FWIW, I would like a boxed set (as in new stuff, not just a re-skinned beginners' box, or collecting the previously-published books). Something like the ... wait for it ... GREYHAWK BOXED SET. Why? MAPS, MAPS, MAPS.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 08:14 PM
    Oh, oh I see. Running away, eh?! You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll impale you!!
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 07:23 PM
    Yep. That's it. Regular copy and paste causes the issues. FYI- Using chrome on windows when this happens.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 07:21 PM
    Yeah. I got nothing at this point. I will say that when I do a regular cut and paste from certain comments, the text I paste has a weird semi-border around it which is barely visible. Like this- Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 06:55 PM
    Hockey was my sun, hockey was my earth But the Leafs didn't know all the ways I loved them, no So the Raptors took a chance, made other plans And I bet the Warriors didn't think that Durant would come up injured, no Drake don't need to sing, he don't need to tweet I already know, I watched Fred VanFleet Now there's just no chance With me and the Leafs There'll never be Don't it make the...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 06:23 PM
    Some cause happiness wherever the go; Paladins, whenever they go.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 05:21 PM
    I mean, yeah, but he could have done so much better. "Hey guys, did you hear the news? They are gearing up for a complete revamp- they are leaning hard into a new, improved AEDU system and a rebranding .... Are you ready for W&W? You know, Warlocks and Warlords?" Some people ... just want to watch the world burn.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 04:50 PM
    That's because it's not. When most people discuss "DoD,"* they are talking about the classic I3, I4, I5. Pharoah (later I3) was first created by Hickman in the 70s, and then expanded to the I3-I5. It is setting-agnostic, although, if it had to have a setting, it would be Greyhawk, because all modules from that era were either explicitly Greyhawk (like Saltmarsh, Tsojcanth) or had to be...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 04:34 PM
    Woah! I just switched from Reborn to Legacy (White to Black) ... so, the problem wasn't when I cut and pasted with plain text ... it was when I just NATURALLY CUT AND PASTED. I was not expecting that, at all. I don't even understand that???? That is exact opposite of what should have happened.
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 04:31 PM
    Strangely, I just use the website. Nothing fancy. But I am guessing that what is happening is that I pasting as "plain text" (to remove formatting problems that are popping up) and that is somehow forcing it into black, as opposed to "automatic text coloring." And it only happens in those quotes because I only copy and paste into those ersatz quotes I do (to quote other stuff). ....let's...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:34 PM
    You've won a basketball championship, AND you have a shooting? Welcome to the US, Toronto!
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:32 PM
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 03:22 PM
    Good question! And the answer is .... because then it wouldn't be aptitude bias as you are calling it. :) I don't mean that to be snarky; but to give you the appropriate analogy (with a bit of a joke that is so appropriate here), think of the framing bias (framing effect). The framing bias exists when people are presented options, and those options are given with positive or negative...
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    Friday, 14th June, 2019, 04:24 AM
    So, let me first answer that with a video- Did you watch? Good! "I can't frame that. There's loads and loads of things you just did that might as well be magic!" You see where I'm going with this, yes? So when you ascribe positions on the hierarchy, it's necessarily from the position you have now; as you would put it, your aptitude bias. It is somewhat difficult to fully grok the...
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:06 PM
    Other ideas- B4 is one of my favorites, although primarily UNDERNEATH the desert. Most Dark Sun adventures can, obviously, be used as Desert Adventures.
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 10:03 PM
    If not Desert of Desolation, then I would second X4/X5 (not so much X10). Absolutely love running those. (Originally for the X in B/X, easy to convert to 5e)
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    Thursday, 13th June, 2019, 09:40 PM
    Guess the cross-over between Basketball fans and enworld commenters is, um, two. The op and me. And the number of NBA fans/enworld commenters/Neil Young enthusiasts ....
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Friday, 21st June, 2019

  • 09:10 PM - Harzel mentioned lowkey13 in post Survivor Magic Items (Misc. A-C)- THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
    lowkey13 A major retcon occurred between #229 and #230. There are now a bunch of votes on top of that. Not sure how you want to fix since a bunch of the newer votes were for/against Crystal Ball, which was eliminated at #225. Alchemy Jug 29 Bag of Holding 29+1=30 Bag of Tricks 27 Broom of Flying 26 Carpet of Flying 28 Cube of Force 20​ Cubic Gate 15-2=13 Alchemy Jug 28 Bag of Holding 26 Bag of Tricks 29 Broom of Flying 27 Carpet of Flying 27 Crystal Ball 5 Cube of Force 19 Cubic Gate 19

Monday, 17th June, 2019

  • 11:30 PM - Imaro mentioned lowkey13 in post Should I play 4e?
    ... rather read me some Forgotten Realms than say the Great Gatsby, Moby Dick, or Catcher in the Rye. Does this mean forgotten realms is of an equal or higher quality than a literary classic because I enjoyed it more? LOL no. Not even a little bit. And if I tried to claim as such, I would be (rightly) mocked because it is just clearly not so. So when Tony claims "4e was as good a game as D&D ever managed to be"...coming back with 'But not as many people liked it!' is meaningless and doesn't address the point. Now, I mean, he doesn't really back up his claim with anything and its fine if you disagree. But the metric of 'How many people enjoyed/did not enjoy this' does not belong in a discussion about quality. Does it have a place in a discussion about 'What can we sell to make more money?' Absolutely. But thats not Tony's claim. 5e is a more profitable edition. Hands down. But that is not indicative of quality of the product. I don't see where, in the post you were responding to, that lowkey13 made a statement concerning qualitative judgement, if anything he seemed to be responding to this part of the sentence he emphasized.... ... and if you weren't too deeply wedded to the flaws of past editions, it was hard to dislike. where it does seem to be implying if not outright stating that the product isn't to blame for it's failure or consumers disliking... a flaw in the consumer is. If anything I've seen Tony Vargas make continuous statements around qualitative judgement concerning 4e and other editions without backing it up in any way. Which I guess is why I see this particular call out as kind of odd.

Friday, 14th June, 2019

  • 12:56 AM - pemerton mentioned lowkey13 in post Formatting- Quotes Not Coming Out Correctly
    I use the traditional colour scheme (white post text, orange button text, on black background). In the post I mentioned in the "literary endeavour" thread there are two quote blocks. The first I can read. The second is, for me, an empty quote block. When I highlight it the text appears. I assume that the text has COLOR tags around it that are making it black. In the past when posters have had this issue I believe it's been because they're preparing posts in Word or some similar formatting-rich environment, and then when they copy-and-paste into the message board editor the formatting tags are carried along with the text. lowkey13, I can't recall if this is a recurrent feature of your posts or not. In the case of the particular post I commented on it was the particluar context of the phrase "My last post", which I realised I'd probably misinterpreted, that made the invisible quote salient to me. Maybe you've had invisible quotes in the past too but I haven't commented on them because it hasn't seemed to matter in that context. So anyway, after writing the above I went back through the thread and found post 409 on May 21st (my time). It has 3 quoteblocks. One is fully visible to me. One is fully invisible to me (unless I hightlight text). One is invisible except for the last six words. So I don't think this has anything to do with https. I would guess it's to do with the environment where you are writing/editing your posts.

Thursday, 13th June, 2019

  • 11:15 AM - pemerton mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    So why are you replying to my four-word (and a link) post, rather than replying directly to the 400-word post? Perhaps because I said the same thing, but more elegantly, and you hope to elicit further elegant responses, by engaging with me rather than with the anti-paladin?Having just re-read lowkey13's post, I think I may have misread - by "my last post" perhaps he mean "my previous post" (the next bit of the post itself is not legible for me because of some text formatting issue, but maybe it's a quote of a previous post?). I feel that reinforces my view that meta-comments (ie on the quality and formal properties of poster's posts, as opposed to what they're actually saying) is generally unproductive. by engaging with me rather than with the anti-paladinWhen I play a FRPG I nearly always play a paladin (or similar archetype). Presumably that's more evidence of something-or-other.
  • 10:07 AM - pemerton mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    No narration! Only framing!The post you quoted is nearly 400 words, has two footnotes and an edit, and references Hemingway and Henry Miller. I'm not sure there's much profit in critiquing posting styles or trying to diagnose irony. lowkey13 has (by my count) 7 posts since posting "My last post". Is that irony? An atypical use of the word last? (Maybe we should debate the meaning of the word last, or even post - my count of posts doesn't XP/laugh clicks - for several hundred posts.) Or is it just a change of mind and someone saying stuff that they feel like saying?

Wednesday, 12th June, 2019

  • 10:59 PM - darkbard mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    lowkey13, to a much greater extent than you might imagine, I largely agree with much of your recent postings here, but because of your sarcastic and antagonistic style, I have lost any desire to engage your substance right now.
  • 07:24 PM - Satyrn mentioned lowkey13 in post Why are we okay with violence in RPGs?
    If we were all Americans, here, I could just say "because we're a violent society." Instead, for my flip, sarcastic, cynical answere I'm going to have to go all ST:tNG, and say " because we are an egregiously violent species." (And, you don't get to complain about flip, joking answered to serious questions.) Excellent! Since lowkey13 doesn't get to complain, that lets me go to the front of the line with my complaint. My Complaint: you're stealing my schtick! Please Schtop.

Tuesday, 11th June, 2019

  • 08:18 PM - Gradine mentioned lowkey13 in post Players 'distressed' by gang-rape role-playing game
    ...sion knew him for at least a decade. Made him a face of the con by making him a Room Captain (this point being exactly why some people might not have felt safe going to the con organizer). Predators rely on "good ol' boy" networks to keep their dirty laundry private so they can keep being predators. That's the accountability piece. As for safety, well, I am sure there are cons where Kevin Rolfe will be more than welcome to run his games still. Are the people who would be most traumatized by his "shocking" content going to give pause to joining his games when they see his name on the listing, now? Public awareness makes people safe by giving them the information they need to avoid being traumatized by bad actors, while at the same time raising public accountability for those who might have otherwise given his behavior a pass. "or when we recklessly pursue a moral program of some kind in the wake of such an event" To be clear, the "moral program" in question is "rape = not acceptable". lowkey13 has covered this in better detail, but you are bringing moral relativism to an argument that is mostly centered around sexualized violence. Call both sides equally bad in their extremism is a false equivalence of the dangerous. "People who spring rape scenarios on players and then lie about in an interview with the guy who wrote 'In Defense of Rape' should not be allowed to be in our hobby" is not the moral or extreme equivalent to "LOL great job owning the libs!" and the latter are explicitly counting on well meaning people making that mistake. "I think there is a lot of cruelty being expressed in this thread and people don't see it, because they think they are so correct. Personally I am not a big fan of cruelty." Dannyalcatraz covered this in a point I see you have not responded to yet, in that: Foreseeable repercussions for actions =/= cruelty. I don't really have anything else to add to that.
  • 08:07 PM - Manbearcat mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    lowkey13 I think you’re more or less saying what I said in my initial post in this thread: Framing and understanding of dramatic device (arc composition and pacing, tropes) are fundamentally tethered. Insofar as they are (and they are), if one wants to fold “understanding and deftness in deployment of dramatic device” into “literary”, then we’re going to have a (self-imposed imo) communication impasse. My take on the lead post is the distinction being drawn is with respect to specific skill in word usage (exposition and elocution or oratory skills broadly...or scripting and then speaking). Again, that is on the hierarchy, but, IMO, much lower down than conflict/situation framing is (which, again, includes what I wrote above).

Monday, 10th June, 2019

  • 06:12 PM - hawkeyefan mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    lowkey13 My answer on the first page was in response to the thread title and little else. Upon spending more time to read and absorb the OP and some follow up posts, I clarified my stance. I believe that post is on page 2, perhaps 3. I think a lot of the confusion is really to be attributed to people not looking beyond the title. And I understand why....I did it myself...but it’s just a headline in that sense. I agree that clarity has been needed at times, but trying to pin the problems of this thread on one thing seems limited. I think we can all do better. We can grant benefit of the doubt instead of assuming the worst, we can address each other individually rather than trying to lump everyone into one camp or the other, we can clarify or offer a different phrase when needed. I’ve enjoyed a good deal of the discussion at times, and found what others are saying to be interesting and worthwhile....but there’s also been a good deal of nonsense that’s taken up space.

Thursday, 30th May, 2019

  • 09:23 PM - CleverNickName mentioned lowkey13 in post Survivor Magic Jewelry (PART II)- SCARAB OF PROTECTION WINS!
    OK fair enough. So...why don't you like Ioun Stones then? Some give you powers like "You don't need to eat or drink while this clear spindle orbits your head." and "You are fluent in one additional language while this pulsating bit of red jeweled crystal orbits your head. The DM chooses the language bestowed by the stone."The two examples you give are my favorite Ioun Stones. If we were voting for them individually, the Stone of Sustenance would be my hands-down favorite. ( lowkey13 : That would be a pretty fun Survivor contest, now that I think about it: Survivor Specifics: Ioun Stones, Feather Tokens, and Figurines of Wondrous Power!) My beef with the Ioun Stones in this survey is that of the 13 Stones listed in the DMG, 10 of them are just statboosters. Since the bad considerably outnumber the good IMO, the category gets my downvote.

Wednesday, 29th May, 2019

  • 03:47 AM - Maxperson mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    Words I learned today: "diegetic". That's quite a useful word for discussion of the IC/OOC distinction. There's a scene in "High Anxiety" in which ominous music plays, and the main characters (all in a car, on a coastal highway) tense up and look around. A bus comes the other way; the bus passengers are all musicians, an orchestra, playing the ominous music. Hmm. I would have used diuretic. lowkey13 clearly has better wordcraft than I do. :(

Tuesday, 28th May, 2019

  • 03:40 PM - darkbard mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    Bold emphasis mine. I agree with you, but here is the rub, pemerton does not as per his OP. He does not even make that concession that someone could engage in a literary endeavour for their RPGing. This is the issue lowkey13 has been highlighting for a while. You are correct that lowkey13 keeps asserting this. But you are both wrong in your characterization of pemerton's position. Many times now he has articulated that all things being equal, literary presentation can improve the quality of a game, but that caveat requires that the core activity of TRPGing be not in the presentation itself but in the invitation to meaningful engagement of the situation on the part of the PCs, that at its heart the issue is not performance but framing situations that invite protagonism. I'm sure pemerton will correct me if I have inadvertendly mischaracterized his position.
  • 03:13 PM - Sadras mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    And I think this is fine. If you find the game to be a literary endeavor in this way, and if you are a GM in the style of Matt Mercer, then that is what you should do. I am not saying it can't be these things. All I am saying is it does not have to be these things. Matt Mercer's style of GMing isn't the only way, or the best way: it is just one way to it. Bold emphasis mine. I agree with you, but here is the rub, pemerton does not as per his OP. He does not even make that concession that someone could engage in a literary endeavour for their RPGing. This is the issue lowkey13 has been highlighting for a while.

Wednesday, 22nd May, 2019

  • 01:39 PM - jasper mentioned lowkey13 in post Mike Mearls interview re: Ghosts of Saltmarsh
    I agree with lowkey13 about spreading the books. I use a 33 inch 8 pocket luggage to haul my stuff. Another "core" book and I going have just start carry the basics of what I running that night. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K0863Q6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Friday, 17th May, 2019

  • 07:20 PM - Draegn mentioned lowkey13 in post What is missing in 5E that you had in other editions?
    lowkey13 Do the tables you miss include the roll a d12 for a date chart? Is this what dual rapier wielding gnome paladins have to do?
  • 06:54 PM - DMMike mentioned lowkey13 in post GMs are an endangered species!
    I don't think there was ever any risk to DMs, but yes, (5E is) a return to DM-centric mechanics, that put more of the pretend 'power' on the DM side of the DM/Player dynamic. It's harder to DM than 4e was (though still arguably easier than 3.x), and requires a different style of DMing. The Player v DM would, a most be 'emulated' - that is, the DM would have to set some bounds for himself to 'let the players win.' PvP would be fine, but would really /need/ a DM supervising it. I'd actually like to see 6E pick up where 4E left off, where some other games currently are, and make the GM role more mechanical - putting more narration in the hands of the players. I would expect it to go well with today's Burger King have-it-your-way players. And with a nod to "game modes," it could either leash or unleash the more creative (gonzo) players. Paizo would probably like that too. (Does Pathfinder have "GMs" or "DMs?") Regarding an earlier comment from lowkey13 - that there are no good DMs (snark noted) - what are today's games doing to make GMing easier, and thus, allowing the GM population to flourish? Not in terms of enabling PCs to co-GM, but having a clear GM role that isn't intimidating.

Thursday, 16th May, 2019

  • 12:54 PM - Maxperson mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    I come from the land of busting chops. This isn’t busting chops. This is the territory of being insulting. And most people don’t take bring insulted sitting down. Except not. I know for a fact that all I'm doing is having some fun, and not even all of it has to do with you at all, and what does is just ribbing. No insults at all. If you are feeling insulted, then you are seeing insult where there isn't any. Satyrn is one of the nicest people here, so I'm certain that she is also just having some fun with a bit of ribbing. lowkey13 I'm not as certain about, but he has a similar humor to mine, so I think he is probably doing the same as Satyrn and I.

Wednesday, 15th May, 2019

  • 01:08 AM - pemerton mentioned lowkey13 in post Is RPGing a *literary* endeavour?
    pemerton has pretty strongly argued that presentation is not very important and that content is all that really matters. That the scenario regardless of how that scenario is communicated to the players is the most important thing at the table. I have used the words "literary" and "performance" in what I hope are reasonably clear senses. Theatre (typically) involves both. Salon repartee with Oscar Wilde or Dorothy Parker involves both. Conversation with friends typically invovles neither. I've also said - repeatedly, although lowkey13 may not have read those posts - that everything else being equal a mellifluous GM can be a good thing. But obviously much of the time everything is not equal. For example, pre-scripting which is often a precondition of literary quality in word-choice and a precondition for rehearsal of presentation, is at odds with the back-and-forth, the invitation-and-response, that I think is at the heart of RPGing. To frame invitation-and-response as scenario is harmless enough provided not too much weight is put on the latter. But obviously if, by scenario, one is talking about something pre-scripted and rehearsed, then that's not what I'm talking about. If a scenario doesn't speak to the players and engage their interest, and generate an emotional response in them, then my advice to the GM would always be work on your stuff. I would not be suggesting choose a different soundtrack. I’d argue that presentation is equally important and you prove my point. A dm who presents information one ...

Monday, 13th May, 2019

  • 02:12 AM - Maxperson mentioned lowkey13 in post Survivor Magic Jewelry (PART I)- AMULET OF THE PLANES WINS!
    I don't know what the heck is going on. I open the page, click "Last" (and I make sure that the post I am looking at is, indeed, the last in the thread and not simply the last one I've read), copy it to clipboard, paste it into a new message, and then make my vote. Then I come back the next day and there are a handful of posts between the one I copied and the one I voted from. A squad of rapier-wielding Gnome Paladins made lowkey13 do it.


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Tuesday, 25th June, 2019

  • 12:44 AM - ccs quoted lowkey13 in post [1e and OD&D] How did you handle Druids and Armor? Clerics and Edge Weapons?
    1. Could Druids wear non-metallic armor? If they did, what happened? Of course they could! Their choices were leather & wooden shields. If they did their AC improved. :) The questions that we did have to answer concerning Druids & armor were for studded leather & padded. Especially padded. We eventually decided upon yes to both of those. Though for padded armor it's only ever been a point of discussion as I've never seen a PC - of any sort - ever choose that option. As for the metallic armors - chain, plate, etc? No. And the book told you why the class lacks that option. Pretty much the end of that discussion. Except.... But what about for some RP purpose - like disguises? Believe it or not, that type of question did come up. We ruled: A) As per the description in the PHB it spoils with your magical powers - wich we decided meant virtually every class ability, not just your spell casting. B) The best AC you'd get would be = to studded leather, maybe, & determined by the DM on a si...
  • 12:35 AM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Really? It would appear that you don’t understand the argument made by anyone else. I mean- how many posts, and you still don’t seem to grok that people don’t agree with you. That said, if you’re correct then it is completely legal in all AL games. Is it? Should be simple enough to find out. Instead of continually asserting something others disagree with. I get that many don't agree, but that doesn't mean their understanding is accurate. Most people are still so caught up in the old fluff that they only want one interpretation to exist period. Such bias is why it would be foolish to trust AL standards as infallible. They also seem to almost universally rule that the DM chooses what animals appear with Conjure Animals, even if RAW tells the player to choose "One beast of challenge rating 2 or lower". Personally, if I'm told to pick a beast, I'd think I get to pick a beast. Can you guess where the interpretation that the DM chooses comes from? Sage Advice. Know where the interpretation that ...

Monday, 24th June, 2019

  • 11:06 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    By the way, the actual Gygaxian method of handling the Plate-wearing druid, or the two-handed sword-weilding cleric, is DMG p. 110. Here- [SNIP] *EDIT- in case this wasn't clear from my first post of the day, re: history of druids, your argument is weird and misplaced. Here- A. 5e's text about druids and armor doesn't work because it's not a rule, and never has been, ever. Or something. B. 5e's rule about druids and armor doesn't work very well because it's similar to the other class/lore rules from OD&D and 1e that, for the most part, 5e has completely abandoned; given that 5e has completely abandoned almost all vestiges of these rules (including but not limited to clerics and edged weapons, racial level limits, monks and oil, and various alignment restrictions) re-introducing this single 1e legacy rule seems misplaced and confusing, and should be, at most, an optional campaign-variant, not a core 5e class rule for druids. See the difference? I could understand B, but I don't get A at all...
  • 10:46 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    You are just making stuff up now. I assume you played OD&D and 1e, correct? So you understand that while people played in all sorts of different ways, the mindset was completely different back then? I understand you have repeatedly ignored the whole class/lore issue, but ... c'mon. Are you going to be seriously arguing that you understand how Clerics used edged weapons in OD&D and 1e so well because of you common sense, and the rest of us were just playing it wrong? I mean, you could argue that, but that would be kind of silly, right? Don't be that guy. PS- Quoting only the ending joke of a post, and eliding the rest of it, isn't ... a great way to engage people. No, I'm not making anything up. I'm merely pointing out that many people read the rules wrong. This was especially true during a time without such easy internet access, so people couldn't as easily openly discuss the proper interpretation of rules, and they couldn't get proper guidance from the game developers so easily. Yes, pe...
  • 09:49 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    What happens when the Druid attempts to use a non-Druid weapon? The Druid Explodes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Being able to read the books as a whole instead of focusing on one sentence indicates that the Druid just performed an action not appropriate for the class once they used a non-Druid weapon. They also of course won't gain the appropriate benefits of being proficient with the weapon, and may suffer any appropriate penalties. The DMG has a table for penalties to impose on players who perform non-class appropriate actions. Any other penalty on them for doing so would be a house rule, as it's purely at DM discretion due to no further listed mechanical penalties. Anyone who thinks "forbidden" means "physically impossible under scientific law" falls into my earlier category of either not being able to read, or not being able to use common sense. The Cleric also had the limit of "All are likewise forbidden to use edged and/orpointed weapons which shed blood." What happened if they used one? There w...
  • 07:28 PM - Bedrockgames quoted lowkey13 in post GM DESCRIPTION: NARRATION OR CONVERSATION?
    To the extent your playing style, replete with reference to videogame characters, works for you- Great! But it's probably best, given the history of many who play this hobby, to refer to the way they play as some sort of highfalutin' putting on airs. Jus' sayin'- it's the kind of anti-intellectual attitude that so many of us already put up with. (I want to stress that I don't think you mean that, but the reason that these threads get so heated is that, like any playstyle conversations, they can quickly veer from describing how a person likes to play to prescribing how others ought to play, and that statements of preferences can easily become statements of disdain for other styles) It is about one style predominating. I am not anti-intellectual but I am anti-elitism, especially when gamers who don't talk like they came from the suburbs end up feeling out of place in the hobby (which I've seen many times firsthand). And while yes, you are right, we should all be entitled to our preferences, a...

Saturday, 22nd June, 2019

  • 04:19 PM - AriochQ quoted lowkey13 in post Systems You'd Never Play after Reading Them
    O. LIVING STEEL. I'd love to hear from someone who actually did run it. Because I was a glutton for punishment back then, and even I was like, "Eh, no thank you." Living Steel: I didn't run, but did play in a short campaign in the late 80's. Not even sure why our GM wanted to run it, she rarely strayed from D&D. We had fun playing with the power armor, but it isn't a game we ended up playing long term. It was very number crunchy, an aspect I actually enjoyed back then. I am still an unapologetic min/maxxer. Dangerous Journey's: Another game we had fun with for a while. I actually liked that Aerth drew heavily from actual history/mythology for each given geographical area. It gave GM and players a common base of knowledge. I am also a sucker for skill based systems. Twilight 2000: We played a ton of this, but it has not aged well. I view it as a niche rpg. If people are really into military based stuff, it is a blast, but for general rpg'ers, I can see it being a snore fest. It...
  • 02:29 AM - Tallifer quoted lowkey13 in post Survivor Magic Items (Misc. A-C)- THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
    My revote to correct the tally: Post #229 (Crystal Ball -2 +1 -2 -2) Can revote today- @Tallifer gets one donwvote (-2) Alchemy Jug 28 Bag of Holding 29 Bag of Tricks 27 Broom of Flying 25 Carpet of Flying 26 Cube of Force 19 Cubic Gate 11
  • 12:00 AM - Maxperson quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Let's see- Druid:Class Features:Proficiencies: "Armor: Light armor, medium armor, shields (druids willnot wear armor or use shields made of metal)" P. 65, PHB Seem like a not rule to me! Wait, let's look at the MULTICLASSING PROFICIENCIES GAINED! Druid: "Light armor, medium armor, shields (druidswill not wear armor or use shields made ofmetal)" p. 164, PHB Seems like a not rule to me! I mean ... a muticlassing not rule. In fact, this "not rule" is also in the SRD. You know- the standard reference document for, um, not rules! Wait, let's keep going because this is ... fun? Sure. Let's keep going! Page 145 of the PHB. Chain mail, scale mail, breastplate and half plate. All medium metal armors that druids have proficiency with. Page 167 of the PHB. Heavily Armored feat. Doesn't say anywhere that druids can't take it. There is no rule in the PHB that restricts druids from wearing metal armor. There is only the blurb in the class that makes it a choice that the class generally ...

Friday, 21st June, 2019

  • 10:46 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Nevertheless, they probably would have just stopped this whole debate if, instead of being clever and funny with their answer* (You'll explode! It's just like being a vegetarian!) they had just said that a druid can never be proficient in metal armor. Period. Then you could apply the non-proficiency armor rules (you know, disadvantage on everything, no spells, etc.) But they didn't do this. They actually did the opposite of this, which says a lot about what you're saying versus what they have stated. The original wording in the PHB was flimsy because it said they will not wear metal armor, and people wanted clarification as to what that means. This is why it appeared so quickly in the Sage Advice Compendium. Some people interpreted it as meaning it's a personal choice for the class that can be bypassed by story reasons, largely because the Druid still has proficiency in the armor and there were no mechanical implications saying they can't wear metal armor. Other people interpreted that as me...
  • 09:47 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    So, just so we are clear, we all know that RAI is not the Italian TV Broadcaster, but instead means Rules As Interpreted. No, RAI = Rules as Intended. RAW = Rules as Written. Intention != Interpretation. That's not even just semantics, they are literally definitively different. Rules as Interpreted would be synonymous to Rules as Written. Rules As Intended means bypassing the Rules As Written in favor of enforcing what is perceived by the DM as the heart of the rules, not the mechanical interpretation of the rules. That is not the same as the developer declaring the official interpretation of the RAW. If an official RAW rule in the book is questionable in its wording, the Sage Advice exists to provide the official explanation (interpretation) of the RAW. If something can be read in two or more ways, the Sage Advice declares which way is official. The Sage Advice does contain some RAI, but they are always sure to point out when they're making a note of the intended implications versus what the...
  • 09:36 PM - Parmandur quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Completely agree. Well ... mostly agree. I think that, like a lot of Sage Advice, it's poorly considered. Even the Sage Advice in the compendium which tends to be less stupid than most SA. I could start by saying that I don't care that much about "balance," but the real issue for balance is the whole Moon / Land Druid thing; I don't think that they really paid much attention to that. Nevertheless, they probably would have just stopped this whole debate if, instead of being clever and funny with their answer* (You'll explode! It's just like being a vegetarian!) they had just said that a druid can never be proficient in metal armor. Period. Then you could apply the non-proficiency armor rules (you know, disadvantage on everything, no spells, etc.) Problem would be solved, but I'm sure people would complain anyway. That's why it is so very very important to make Druids spontaneously combust. *Really- when have rules lawyers ever appreciate either cleverness or humor? IIRC, WotC tested pa...
  • 09:21 PM - Parmandur quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    1. The rules do say that. Period. 2. Sage advice is just RAI. So best case scenario, you're still wrong. And you're not reading the RAI correctly (which says you have to ask the DM, just like any other house rule). Bad cherrypicking is still cherrypicking. Good luck! What the Sage Advise does do is let the DM considering it know that the Druid is not balanced around the no metal assumption, and it own't break combat if the DM is cool with the story.
  • 09:06 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    That's not true: Sage Advise is a set of advise to Dungeon Masters, and not binding in any fashion. 2. Sage advice is just RAI. Sage Advice is official documentation that goes alongside the errata. Errata changes rules, Sage Advice further clarifies them. The official documentation from WotC says this: "Official rulings on how to interpret rules are made here in the Sage Advice Compendium by the game’s lead rules designer, Jeremy Crawford (@JeremyECrawford on Twitter).The public statements of the D&D team, or anyone else at Wizards of the Coast, are not official rulings; they are advice. Jeremy Crawford’s tweets are often a preview of rulings that will appear here. A Dungeon Master adjudicates the game and determines whether to use an official ruling in play. The DM always has the final say on rules questions." They are pretty clear in that the official interpretation of the rules is indicated in the Sage Advice compendium. Of course DMs are always free to ignore the official rulings, beca...
  • 08:09 PM - Umbran quoted lowkey13 in post Geekdom Takes a Bow
    So, he is a good, concise writer*. For real. Yeah, this isn't a critique of his prose in a technical sense. It is the content.
  • 08:07 PM - Ohmyn quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Maybe you and I have different standards of balance. I don't think any full caster should ave an AC over 16-17 without magic items, i just doesn't balance well. Clerics? Valor Bards? Any other caster that puts in the effort to get a shield and light or medium armor? Heck, it's just as easy, and often easier, for full casters to get AC of their tank, than it is for martial classes like the Monk or the Rogue to do the same. "Druids will not wear armor or use shields made of metal" is about as clear a rule as I've seen in the book. Feel free to run it differently in your game. And that rule has been further clarified in the Sage Advice as to what it means. It is made clear that there is nothing preventing them from doing so, and that there is no penalty if they do. It's only a choice, and players are free to ignore the typical choices of their class. Of course the DM can deny people ignoring a story aspect of their class, but that's true of anything, so it's kind of lazy to point to in a que...
  • 07:43 PM - Istbor quoted lowkey13 in post Geekdom Takes a Bow
    You're tearing me apart, Umbran! I, too, enjoy The Room. Oh, hi @cmad1977 ! Too bad for Tommy, that he was just a poor Paladin in a party of back-stabbing Rogues.
  • 05:40 PM - Fanaelialae quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    By RAW they are not, however, Druids. So, they can't. Let's see how silly this semantic game can be with rules lawyers. C'mon, it's fun for the whole table! It says that a Knight's retainer "will not" follow me into a dangerous area, like a Dungeon. (PHB 136). But it doesn't say that they will EXPLODE. Therefore, they follow me into the dungeon. It says that if a Paladin violates their oath (PHB 86), then the DM might be an oathbreaker, or might just have to abandon the class completely for another class. Lack of specificity means that there can be no penalty, therefore there is no Paladin oath. For pacts, it says to work with the DM to determine the role of the pact (p. 106); because working with DMs removes MUH PLAYA AGENCY it therefore doesn't exist, so the patron doesn't exist. Etc. Look, I have some easy, simple solutions: 1. There are no Druids. They have been consigned to the place where the Paladins reside. 2. Wearing metal causes Druids to spontaneously com...
  • 04:57 PM - Psyzhran2357 quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    Not to be too obvious, but: Why is it that there are, largely, two groups of people in this debate. The first sees the druid restriction, understands it for what it is, and are like, "Okay, cool, if other people disagree with it, then they can just houserule it." The second attempts to make various arguments that UNLESS the rule is perfect, then THE RULE DOESN'T APPLY. Now, notice how these individuals (you are one of them) doesn't do the following- State that the rule is poorly implemented, and therefor propose a solution to implement it, such as: "If a druid attempts to wear metal armor, or use a metal shield, then he or she shall lose the ability to cast any druid spells; such loss is complete the instant the action is taken to wear metal armor or use a metal shield. Should this use continue, further loss of class abilities will continue at the discretion of the DM, and if a druid willfully continues to wear metal armor or use a metal shield, the druid will be forced to abandon his or ...
  • 03:47 PM - Oofta quoted lowkey13 in post Why the Druid Metal Restriction is Poorly Implemented
    2. Wearing metal causes Druids to spontaneously combust. Little known fact- 95% of all spontaneous combustion cases are caused by Druids trying to wear metal armor (the other 5% are a result of gnomes wielding rapiers). Even lesser known fact, 10% of spontaneous combustion cases are caused by lowkey13 being forced to play a paladin. Yeah, that's right it adds up to more than 100. Just because percentages will not exceed 100, doesn't mean that they can't! :rant:


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