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    Tuesday, 21st May, 2019, 04:30 AM
    I'd try both build in another campaign... but here I'm really into the bard and all the skills, high level spells and so on :)
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    Tuesday, 21st May, 2019, 04:29 AM
    Not sure if Action Surge is worth putting off all the abilities, especially casting power and spells, so I'm thinking doing just start at fighter for 1. Don't know if another 1 dip is worth it later... What do you mean by staying "HE"?
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    Tuesday, 21st May, 2019, 04:20 AM
    Yeah, I was pretty proud of myself when the idea came to me - niiiice stats.... the only thing is, by taking a DEX feat so early, I'm delaying both Casting power(CHA) and getting SS kinda late....or do you think it's not a big deal for this kind of char? Yeah, you're right - I'd probably be keeping a distance and jumping behind stuff to hide, and using spells to push enemies away/hold them...
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    Monday, 20th May, 2019, 09:51 PM
    Yes - I wrote my own custom background :) Background: Assimilated Outlander You spent an early part of your life growing up in a rugged land, with wilderness all around, where survival depends on a balance of courage, being able to rely on your fellow man/tribe, and familiarity with the ways of the wild. However, you later migrated to a safer, more stable region, where you assimilated to...
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    Monday, 20th May, 2019, 09:43 PM
    Our DM has us playing 3 oneshots, and then starting the actual campaign, so that we can playtest our chars a little and get the hang of the rules/refresh our memories. We already played session 1 at lvl1, and we'll be doing a session 2 at lvl2, session 3 at lvl3 and then starting at lvl3 or 4 for the campaign. My character a Half-Elf Valor Bard, a kind of inspiring skald, archer/caster. I...
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Tuesday, 7th May, 2019

  • 03:35 AM - TwoSix mentioned OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    OlegRu 1) Bard is pretty much spot on for your concept. If you want to be more skill-focused and a better caster, lore bard is probably a better fit, and certainly fits your RP concept. Valor is generally worthwhile if you're willing to invest feats, ASIs, and spell choices to make your weapon combat. Basically, you'd have to decide how high of a priority good archery is to your character. You could probably also fit this character concept into a warlock, depending on your willingness to stretch class flavor. 2) Con is very important, for both hit points and for making concentration checks. Most people recommend starting with a 14 here if at all possible. 3) Personally, if I'm sitting back casting, I'd rather have just the shield than just the sword, but that's personal preference. 4) A) Breastplate if you can afford it. B) Scale mail or chain shirt if you can't (depending on how much you value stealth). C) Studded leather if you value stealth, can't afford a br...

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Friday, 10th May, 2019

  • 09:13 PM - Ancalagon quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Thanks for the replies @Paul Farquhar @Zardnaar and @Ancalagon, and all due respect, but I really want to stick to playing a bard and just interested in having him be an archer so that he can deal some attack damage/and survive combat because he's further from the worst monsters. Things like Paladin, Warlock wouldn't match his backstory or the way I want to RP him.Btw, if you got anything from my answer, I hope it was to look at the backgrounds section. It is very important, easy to overlook, and may be one of the best features of 5e.

Wednesday, 8th May, 2019

  • 11:37 PM - Treantmonklvl20 quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Hey man - thanks for the answers and your videos. So I see you are from the "don't fight with your valor bard, cast with him" camp :) Interesting how different the suggestions are that I read from different sources. Others have recommended something like taking Sharpshooter first, then raising +2 CHA to 18(since the bard is a significant caster as you said), then raising DEX to 18, then Warcaster or Charisma to 20. Also, many recommended a 1 lvl fighter dip for the archery fighting style to offset sharpshooter's -5 attack and so on. 3. I get it about the damage, but having sword and shield equipped will really mess with my casting (need a free hand for Material component, even after warcaster helps with the Somatic) and also leaves me more open to being hit as this is melee. With a bow I can keep my distance, hide behind stuff, and let one hand go to cast whenever. Having a rapier/shield at the ready, I can sometimes take em out and do some fighting in safer battles or for f...
  • 08:48 PM - Ancalagon quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Thanks for the replies @Paul Farquhar @Zardnaar and @Ancalagon, and all due respect, but I really want to stick to playing a bard and just interested in having him be an archer so that he can deal some attack damage/and survive combat because he's further from the worst monsters. Things like Paladin, Warlock wouldn't match his backstory or the way I want to RP him.Oh RP is super important, if my idea didn't appeal to you, don't use it :) I will note that treantmonk is correct though: in 5e, bards are full spellcasters, and your spells are the best way to battle your foes. You also can use cantrips at will, and unlike previous editions, they can pack a punch.
  • 07:44 PM - UngeheuerLich quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    These are good points... The see what's best as you go makes sense, I'm just worried that I might not see the value of certain things until higher levels. I'm going to tag you in my reply to TwoSix as it hits most of these same topics, if you don't mind. One Idea would be taking college of swords instead of college of valor. I would not advise taking sharpshooter or warcaster. You will have a hand free to cast so it is not that important. You don´t really want to rely on taking the -5/+10 gamble. With college of swords you will have: - extra mobility (+10ft) - a weapon as bardic focus - medium armor as college of valor (thoug no shield) - same extra attack as college of valor - you can spend your bardic inspiration when you hit, doing 2 very useful things on top of doing extra damage (and one extra thing): * push enemies back * gain +dX to defense (*deal damage to an enemy adjacent to yourself) Those may not sound like a lot, but as an archer extra mobility can´t be rate...

Tuesday, 7th May, 2019

  • 07:22 PM - Tony Vargas quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Is there something you'd recommend outside an archer bard that would fit my char's style (maybe some simple-type multiclass I mentioned in the OP or something else)? Also, is a ranged bard preferable to keep him safer due to lower defense/HP and for spell concentration? JMHO, but if you're going to stick to range, you might as well fall back to cantrips for at-will plinking, rather than string a bow. It's convenient, lets you focus on your caster stat, and the bard's attack cantrips can be pretty fun in their own right.
  • 01:51 PM - Paul Farquhar quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    So I want a guy who can fight and cast, and mainly is good for RPing and social, with good skills. Is there anything better than a valor bard in my situation? Something that can do all that and deal damage that doesn't have to be a prime-combatant like our fighter and all. I can't roll for stats as our dm only gave us the two options I mentioned, unfortunately. Also, what you think of the other questions? Has anyone suggested paladin yet (If you ignore the bit about not outdoing fighters)?
  • 04:05 AM - Treantmonklvl20 quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Apparently the original version of this formatted weird, so the edit. 1) Your primary thing will be neither Ranged combat nor Melee combat, it will be spells. Just because Bards can use weapons doesn't make them anything other than what they are: A primary spellcaster. 2) That said, by all means a rapier and a longbow and a good Dex are all a good idea, then you can stick stuff from Range or Melee when you aren't slinging spells. 3) I would make rapier/shield the default, because that +2 AC from the shield will give you a better AC, and nothing makes a Lower Con score more tolerable than taking less damage 4) Glad you like skills, because you took the right class, with Jack of All Trades you get all of them! (kinda), + all the tools, + initiative bonus, + any other ability checks. If it was me, I would half-plate up whether it gave me disadvantage on stealth or not, but if that's a big deal, then yes, a breastplate is a good option. 5) When it comes to ability score increases - I would...
  • 02:57 AM - ccs quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    Questions: If he's the archer build, would rapier be good as a backup melee weapon (for epic flavor in some situations)? Should he have a shield for when he's using the rapier or just a sword? There's not much, if any, reason NOT to use a rapier in this setup. A d8 weapon that keys off your 16 Dex or a sword that likely uses your +0 Str. Hmm.... Shields: The math says use a shield. But you should play the character that your envisioning. So, does a shield fit that vision? Is casting with a bow going to be a problem? What about with a sword and shield? With a bow? No. For somantic components of spells you need 1 free hand. So unless you're always walking around with an arrow knocked it likely won't be interfering. And you can't cast a spell at the same time your firing the bow. With sword/rapier + shield? That'll interfere. But you should talk to your DM about this. I've seen a great many who simply ignore limitations like this. At the worst you'll just have to learn to pl...
  • 12:57 AM - Tony Vargas quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    I am just getting back into DND and it's my first time playing 5e. Please help me with my character build. Just curious: when were you last into D&D? Basically, I want my character to be able to do some decent attacks in combat as well as cast spells, and I love skills and RP. By his backstory the character is almost certainly a skald type- he's very social with a genuine interest in the world, wanting to develop himself and inspire others, using the spoken word and song a lot. He's also from the North and good with wilderness stuff. Yep, sounds like a Valor Bard. I imagine him being good at many skills and talking to others, casting utility and combat spells, buffing his teammates and also getting some attacks in while keeping himself away from the main brunt of the enemy - perhaps shooting arrows. Mostly sounds like a Valor Bard. Or you could focus more on CHA, skip the arrows, and substitute stinging insults (Vicious Mockery, it's a cantrip, you can insult enemies to death - h...
  • 12:52 AM - Mistwell quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    That's so funny, I have that exact video playing minimized, just audio, in my car while I'm driving! :) I am kind of a noob though so I get a bit lost and can't ask questions to a video haha Oh that's OK, you have the ability to cast summon Treantmonklvl20 and he should show up to answer your questions right here!
  • 12:44 AM - Mistwell quoted OlegRu in post Help me with good RP/Optimization balance for Half-Elf (probably)Valor Bard (archer?)
    What are your suggestions/advice? (Please keep in mind I want to keep my character's theme for RP purposes.) Thank You so for any feedback! I strongly recommend Treantmonk's three part guide to Valor Bards. It will help you with exactly this question (and he builds a half-elf bard from levels 1-20). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8D40i2gtto

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