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I've been playing RPGs off and on for 30 years (wow, I can't believe it's been so long). I enjoy every version of D&D up to and including 5th edition.
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Monday, 27th February, 2017

  • 08:00 AM - Knightfall mentioned Lalato in post EN World City Project: Geography
    ATTN: The Grey Dwarf, Lalato, Conaill, Krug, Jolly Giant, wizardoftheplains, Shadowdancer, David Argall, Buttercup, Tallow, Wippit Guud, Tonguez, jdavis, GladiusNP, fusangite, KnidVermicious. I don't know how many of you are around any more, but I figured I'd put up these mentions in case any of you wanted the larger print screen version of the map. Cheers! KF

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Tuesday, 15th July, 2014

  • 01:27 PM - Savage Wombat mentioned Lalato in post Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
    You are both forgetting that this thread is not, ultimately, about what an individual DM allows in his or her game. This is about what should or should not be published in the official 5th edition PH. Which is why understanding both sides of the argument is more important than you are willing to accept. I'm not trying to persuade you to accept the other position - I'm trying to get you to understand what the other position is. But Lalato doesn't want us to talk about this any more.

Wednesday, 9th July, 2014

  • 08:13 PM - TwoSix mentioned Lalato in post Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
    None of those are chaotic principles (indeed, the very idea of "principles" is inherently lawful). That sounds like a LG paladin to me. And any paladin in my game that did NOT uphold those principles would lose their powers. That sounds like a Good (any ethos) cleric to me. The point of the paladin (according to the multi-edition fluff) is that they have innate divine abilities from their devotion to The Cause, whatever it may be. Which again devolves into another discussion of "What does each alignment even mean?", which then means players at the same table can have completely different takes on whether a character can actually be a paladin or not. I mean, the character Halivar just described as LG was the character Lalato used as a paragon of CG! That leads to a situation where Halivar comes to the table with a cool idea for a paladin who fights off the scourge of tyranny and frees oppressed slaves, and Lalato says "Sorry, man, that's a chaotic character, can't be a paladin". (Not that I think Lalato actually runs that way, this is purely hypothetical.) To my mind, I'd restrict the paladin to any good and LN. Gives the idea that the paladin is supposed to be a champion of civilization and the common folk, but allows for some freedom as to how the player might want to express it.

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Thursday, 17th July, 2014

  • 05:04 PM - Kraztur quoted Lalato in post Is there a "Cliffs Notes" summary of the entire 4E experience?
    This thread wins as performance art. Maybe this is actually the 4th current "joke" thread that is happening. /ragequitNo*, the other threads are intentional parodies. This thread is an unintentional self-parody. I will now annoy you by arguing something you never said. Is it working? /intentional parody ** * Beginning with "No" makes it confrontational even though I'm not disagreeing with you ;) ** that adds nothing to this discussion which makes it a hypocritical self-parody which is extra ironic
  • 04:59 PM - Nergal Pendragon quoted Lalato in post /Ragequit Rants
    I believe 5e made my stomach hurt (because I couldn't stomach the new LG Paladin), and then I felt something squirt... /ragesquirt I am so angry at 5e's lack of a medicine skill that I decided to distract myself by medically correcting Lalato's problem! /ragesurgery
  • 04:45 PM - jadrax quoted Lalato in post Background ToC TIDBIT
    I learned that there is a table that clearly denotes contents of the PH(B). Also, and I don't know if anyone has pointed this this out yet, the 's' is weird...
  • 02:09 AM - The Human Target quoted Lalato in post The Power of "NO". Banned Races and Classes?
    I don't look at as hating something. Though some might ban things because they hate. I look at it as creating a living, breathing campaign world. If you're building a post-apoc campaign setting, some races and classes may not make sense. Maybe a particular race was wiped out by the cataclysm. Maybe the tools required for a certain class archetype no longer work. Maybe physics works differently. If you're trying to model a campaign around a great novel you read. And let's say that novel doesn't mention certain races, you might ban them because they don't fit the setting. Alternatively, you might modify existing races to make the new campaign setting work. If a player later comes along and wants to play something that doesn't fit in the world... you're always welcome to allow it, but that player should be ready to play the very first of the species in the campaign world. People will react to such a creature in interesting and maybe dangerous ways. Anyway... it's not about hate...

Wednesday, 16th July, 2014

  • 05:41 PM - Incenjucar quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    I understand. What I meant was that it's more interesting to see the "infinite options" than it is to just look at the standard old vs new. I'm willing to bet that what you labeled as "old" school is perfectly viable in 5e. What I'm asking is what will you do to make it viable in your campaign? Some folks will likely just make the decision to not include them, which is a fine decision to make. But if you're going to include them, and you don't like the 5e default, what will you do to change it? If you do like the default, what kind of stories will it inspire in your campaign world? Thanks for providing one such story. :) About the same I do for humans, honestly. None of this takes a special effort, it's just "Yeah they exist." unless your campaign needs more detail. Classic tieflings have individual origins, rather than being a full-fledged race, so their stories are fairly specific to that individual, while a cursed tiefling has a culture on top of their race, so their story may...

Tuesday, 15th July, 2014

  • 09:18 PM - Incenjucar quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    Hey... if you like to limit yourself with this stuff, more power to you. I still feel like you've sidestepped the question asked and decided to answer some other question that someone else asked. I posit that there is a communication failure between us. Could you clarify your question? Also nothing I stated creates a limit. "Etc etc etc" after all. You stated: "A better question to ask is... How will you incorporate different tiefling stories and backgrounds in your campaign? Will devils and other baddies be making pacts or having teh hot sex with the muggles? Will there be crazy magical experiments? " I supplied examples of both types of tiefling, but there are infinite options and each campaign is different.
  • 05:49 PM - Incenjucar quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    You haven't actually answered the question other than to just state some perceived difference between "old" and "new". I want to hear all of the stories that you can create with the new... and how you might change the 5e tiefling to fit in your world. I couldn't care less about old vs new. If you can't answer the question, that's fine... but ain't nobody got time for this. PHB hits next month, and I want your ideas. I was illustrating that they both have a distinct range of stories to tell. One type of tiefling has the legacy of a culture and an entire race branded on their skin, while the other has the more personal, smaller story of an event between their parents. One is a race, with distance but not freedom from its origin, and the other is a most likely seen as the walking manifestation of a very personal and recent taboo with unknown effects. One type has a fallen empire and an essentially failed faith to ponder the value of, the other's daddy was a pit fiend and is probably s...
  • 03:32 PM - Thaumaturge quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    Anyone know how to give XP via tapatalk? Because that's what I'm talking about! Thanks gyor. I don't. But I got him for you. Thaumaturge.
  • 02:08 PM - gyor quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    You haven't actually answered the question other than to just state some perceived difference between "old" and "new". I want to hear all of the stories that you can create with the new... and how you might change the 5e tiefling to fit in your world. I couldn't care less about old vs new. If you can't answer the question, that's fine... but ain't nobody got time for this. PHB hits next month, and I want your ideas. Okay you want stories I got stories. Sleea's great grandmother was said to be a descendant of the Evil War and Love Goddess Ianna, beautiful and terrible. But Sleea played little attention to that, figuring her family tree didn't matter after the rite changed Tiefling everywhere. Then one day Sleea woke up with Ianna's mark burned onto her abdmen, with no idea how it got there, or why it was placed thiede. Did some spiteful Tiefling hating bigot put it there was has the dead Goddess Inanna returned like so many other gods back to life, to reclaim her childern f...
  • 05:30 AM - evileeyore quoted Lalato in post Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
    Tell me about your Paladin's code, oath, lifestyle, guidelines, power source, pact with their deity... whatever. Tell me something good... but preferably not lawful good. (see what I did there?) ;) I tend to dislike Paladins in D&D (I'm not a fan of Alignments, thus things that force them to be an issue poke one of my buttons). Thus I've only ever played one. Me and a friend decided to play brothers, Paladins and to push one aspect of the Aligment requirement as the central concept for each character. As the older brother my Paladin was Law and Duty before all things, with a passing nod to Good, and my younger brother was Good and Bravery before all things, only mildly restrained by Law. Each of us served a different diety, both were LG, but like our characters the two gods both favored one aspect of their alignment over the other (I want to say it was Tyr and Torm respectively). That campaign was interesting considering the other characters were a CN Wizard, a LE Assassin, an...
  • 05:24 AM - pkt77242 quoted Lalato in post Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
    OK dudes, circular arguments are circular. This is getting old (Methuselah old). Accept that you are not convincing anyone, and let's turn this thread into something more constructive. Tell me about your Paladin's code, oath, lifestyle, guidelines, power source, pact with their deity... whatever. Tell me something good... but preferably not lawful good. (see what I did there?) ;) Well I already told my story of my womanizing Paladin so, I once played a LG Paladin that couldn't stand to lie or be around people that were lying as his facial expression would give it away (think Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory when being asked to lie) it led to some very awkward role-playing moments and quite a few busted scenarios for the poor rogue in our group. Also earlier someone mentioned that they wanted to play an alcoholic Paladin and that is a great idea. I once played an alcoholic Dwarven fighter that was awesome. We had a group get to 12 level and then a TPK happened so we all created 10th l...
  • 04:47 AM - Incenjucar quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    A better question to ask is... How will you incorporate different tiefling stories and backgrounds in your campaign? Will devils and other baddies be making pacts or having teh hot sex with the muggles? Will there be crazy magical experiments? Old School Tiefling: "My dad was an adventuring bard, just like me! Only he was a halfling. On one of his most epic journeys, he was captured by a marilith, who planned to torture him and his allies into revealing the secret of the Blue Key! When it was his turn to be questioned, he said 'Lady, give me five minutes, and I'll charm your scales off, then we can put all of this behind us.' And that's why I look like a stubby yuan-ti." New School Tiefling: "In an age so distant that some call it myth, my ancestors made a dread pact with unspeakable powers. They paid a terrible price for that choice, and have passed that price down to me and my brethren. That is why I have come to save you from the same wretched fate - not for you, arrogant fool,...

Monday, 14th July, 2014

  • 11:03 PM - The Black Ranger quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    A better question to ask is... How will you incorporate different tiefling stories and backgrounds in your campaign? Will devils and other baddies be making pacts or having teh hot sex with the muggles? Will there be crazy magical experiments? A tiefling in my game is not something you will see often. Rarely would you ever encounter the plural.
  • 06:11 PM - gyor quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    The Asmodeian subrace has been chosen for the PHB. What other subraces can you think of to fit in the tiefling umbrella? More importantly, what do these beings find so intriguing/exotic/powerful about getting it on with humans? Well I provided to pact subraces above. Although I'll noticed that one will have to change the Red Witch's lore for FR, perhaps an aspect of Shar or Mask.
  • 09:14 AM - pemerton quoted Lalato in post Hidden
  • 05:55 AM - thewok quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    You forgot to add... "in my opinion" to the end of that statement. ;) He does have a point. Tieflings look different. They look scary, and people would likely be scared of them. Tieflings would likely be shunned, cast out of society, and such. This happens all the time in the real world, with pretty much the same sentiment: "Blacks don't belong in civilized society." "Can't trust a one of those Muslims, I tell you." Generally, though, time will bring about the necessary changes in perception to bridge the divide. Kids who grow up seeing that people who look different really aren't that different will remember that later on, and they'll pass it to their children, and so on. So, tieflings likely wouldn't be welcome in small communities. But, in larger, metropolitan communities like larger cities, and after a few generations, tieflings would likely be viewed as really no different than anyone else. Some may have a propensity for evil, sure. But so do humans, elves, dwarves and anyone...
  • 05:54 AM - variant quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    You forgot to add... "in my opinion" to the end of that statement. ;) Of course it's my opinion, it's in my post. What they should have done is put the tiefling, dragonborn, and drow in the DMG. Though if I had my way, they would put the half-elf and half-orc in the DMG as well under rules for creating crossbreeds.

Sunday, 13th July, 2014

  • 03:50 PM - evileeyore quoted Lalato in post What's stopping the gods of evil from creating angels of their own?
    On a more serious note. It's more interesting if they all dressed the same, and you couldn't tell good from evil just by looking at them. Wait, the Angels won't be color coded for my convenience? /ragequit
  • 11:20 AM - Hussar quoted Lalato in post Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
    I agree that it's campaign specific. But I'll also be the first to admit that if the campaign followed the more strict meddling gods model, I would be playing the least religious character that ever graced the universe. This. IME, players would rather eat their own shorts than let the DM have that much control over their characters.

Saturday, 12th July, 2014

  • 01:13 AM - gyor quoted Lalato in post Tiefling preview!
    If lovin' you is wrong, I don't wanna be right? That song is so much more Romantic in the original goblinish. Anyway for those that fear the 2e Tiefling is gone, the Planetouched race is mention in the playtest as having the old Tiefling in it. I will also mention that because Tieflings breed true no matter what they could have demon blood as welll. Oh and I'll point out that the Tiefling could have a third page, we don't know the Tieflings page count as it was the finL race in the ToC. So they could have subraces, although the +1 to intelligence makes that unlikely. I will also know note the irony that the race closest to the lawful Evil devils has an tendancy to be Chaotic. Oh and the Tiefling horns are more varied, previously in 4e they were all curled now they have more shapes you can choose from. All that aside, I really like the 5e Tiefling and it will be my first race to play when the PHB comes out. Maybe a Tiefling Paladin. Weirdly the Tiefling is perfect for...


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