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    Yes the devs failed to see how the abundance of...

    Yes the devs failed to see how the abundance of Darkvision makes it too easy to create an all-Darkvision party.

    Forest races (Elves, Half-Elves and Gnomes) should have low-light vision, not...
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    It is saying something when you look at the...

    It is saying something when you look at the Ranger and see how it requires the bonus action for no less than TWO archetypal abilities (dual wielding and Hunter's Mark).

    Never mind keeping it for...
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    I'm not overlooking anything. I am just defining...

    I'm not overlooking anything. I am just defining where the design work of this thread must end up at to be truly satisfactory.

    I'm basically trying to save y'all some time and effort, so you don't...
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    Then I gotta ask you why you are even in this...

    Then I gotta ask you why you are even in this discussion?

    You can't seriously be here only to tell us a little imbalance is nothing to worry about?

    This entire thread is based on the premise...
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    Simplifying vision into only Darkvision was...

    Simplifying vision into only Darkvision was something WotC did anxious to avoid 5E being a failure.

    It was not necessary. It is a mistake. I can understand why they did it, but low-light vision...
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    Not sure where you're going with this. I mean,...

    Not sure where you're going with this.

    I mean, the absolute priority is to avoid Boring, right?

    If the only way to make a fight sufficiently challenging to avoid Boring is to make it take a...
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    First off, if you seriously intend to dismiss...

    First off, if you seriously intend to dismiss balanced rules design with "players just choose anyway" then we are done and I have nothing to tell you.

    Still here? Good.

    Then my answer is: the...
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    Two-Six: High levels offer increasingly better...

    Two-Six: High levels offer increasingly better options for your Bonus Action. Any fighting style that hogs it just to keep up is inherently worse off.

    That is, relying on a fighting style whose...
  9. If PF2 were to only allow 5E levels of...

    If PF2 were to only allow 5E levels of restriction-circumvention, I will sleep soundly at night.
  10. That's exactly my point! :) I take it you...

    That's exactly my point! :)


    I take it you don't love 5th Edition...? ;)

    But seriously, I'm a bit impressed - I haven't been accused from that particular angle before! :)

    So you're saying...
  11. MMearls does make great waffles! [emoji846]

    MMearls does make great waffles! [emoji846]
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    It's a game set in Baldur's Gate. A case can be...

    It's a game set in Baldur's Gate. A case can be made it is the third such game.

    The rest can be explained by the devs desire to capitalize on the goodwill of the series.
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    You use one of my arguments to shoot down the...

    You use one of my arguments to shoot down the other, and vice versa... [emoji854]

    One of the reasons GWF is so good is that it leaves your BA open for other options.

    Choosing PM or CE locks...
  14. My concern is that LFQW will basically remain....

    My concern is that LFQW will basically remain. Thank you for agreeing to the basic premise, by the way - that it has no place in a 2019 game.

    It takes a concerted effort to really banish LFQW (to...
  15. Thank you for your reply. Of course it...

    Thank you for your reply.


    Of course it would. (Specifically: as I have said many times over, Paizo is free to accomplish this however they want. I certainly don't expect them to use the exact...
  16. I believe you are misunderstanding me. I am...

    I believe you are misunderstanding me.

    I am not attempting to prove anything.

    I am positing the following theory, or argument, or opinion even:

    "A game published in 2019 needs at least the...
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    (My bracketed sentence ending inserted) Yep,...

    (My bracketed sentence ending inserted)

    Yep, that's for sure.

    Then again, encounter guidelines are easily ignored so this is a small price to pay :)

    (In my mind this is similar to...
  18. Okay. So let's come up with another...

    Okay.

    So let's come up with another abbreviation if you don't feel 5E manages to avoid LFQW.

    Let's say 5E only manages to avoid WTFBBQ.

    Now reread my every post and every time I write "I...
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    The first comment on that page: "Personally, I...

    The first comment on that page:

    "Personally, I absolutely hate the way AL does treasure and magic items."
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    Isn't the straight-forward answer "no". That...

    Isn't the straight-forward answer "no".

    That is, the player characters are children. Nothing about that suggest the players are intended to be children. If anything, the intended audience is...
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    Again, please consider using these two features...

    Again, please consider using these two features as the base:

    1. The TWF fix is offered thru a feat. (Feat-less games unaffected; no cascade effects)

    2. The TWF fix allows you to use your Bonus...
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    No. Being able to combine excitement and...

    No.

    Being able to combine excitement and reasonably fast play is not an unreasonably impossible goal, no matter how you try to twist it. For us, 4E failed.

    That doesn't mean WotC can't do it...
  23. So LFQW does matter to you? Interesting, because...

    So LFQW does matter to you? Interesting, because my entire argument is that I believe it matters to every PF2 customer that has experienced 5E.


    I consider this a bad-faith argument. Who cares...
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    Okay so he's just yet another eater of cake who...

    Okay so he's just yet another eater of cake who gets upset he doesn't get to keep the cake too.

    Thank you for telling me what I need to know to ignore his "difficulties".
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    No, just ignore "every Wizard is based in...

    No, just ignore "every Wizard is based in Altdorf" other silly details and you should be fine.
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    What does? Sorry, what are you saying?

    What does?

    Sorry, what are you saying?
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    Given how even official adventures eschew the xp...

    Given how even official adventures eschew the xp guidelines, and basically level up after specific chapters, I am having trouble seeing what the problem is.

    Or hand out twice the default monster...
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    Exactly. If somebody looked at 1/2E WFRP and...

    Exactly.

    If somebody looked at 1/2E WFRP and went "it seems promising... but it needs to add Pathfinder levels of extra cruft" then 4E is for you.

    Everyone else should definitely try before...
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    And yet, none of that change any of the facts I...

    And yet, none of that change any of the facts I stated :)
  30. I'm not saying they can't pull it off, but when...

    I'm not saying they can't pull it off, but when your audience isn't asking for it, and given Paizo's record, I remain dubious.

    After all, adding these restrictions mean nothing unless they then...
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    Please gate whatever TWF fix you're gunning for...

    Please gate whatever TWF fix you're gunning for behind a feat.

    You can thank me later.
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    Unfortunately it's a complete mess. Every...

    Unfortunately it's a complete mess.

    Every condition has its own special rules, and nothing works the same. They all have various modifiers to keep in mind that might or not be conditional. You...
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    Having the PHB content is the obvious goal here....

    Having the PHB content is the obvious goal here.

    They wouldn't want to exclude any PHB character option unless they have to for technical reasons.

    But expecting more than the PHB (in the basic...
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    Thank you. Yes, this is the root of all those...

    Thank you.

    Yes, this is the root of all those "it isn't D&D" complaints.

    Because if you find that you must choose between easy combats and long combats, then the game does fail at the core.
    ...
  35. Then we have LFQW. I got a PM saying essentially...

    Then we have LFQW. I got a PM saying essentially that nobody is asking Paizo about it.

    This scares me the most. I can totally see the Pathfinder die-hards actually liking the d20 level of magic...
  36. Lighter DM workload as regards monsters? Yes...

    Lighter DM workload as regards monsters? Yes please.

    But what Paizo means by "simplified" might still amount to nothing, if they don't make a truly fundamental change, like 5E did: monsters using...
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    Our group is very experienced, but unfortunately...

    Our group is very experienced, but unfortunately it was far too much.

    Everything has niggling special rules. There are modifiers and extra dice rolls everywhere.

    As I see it, the developers...
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    Yes, it is significantly more detailed and laden...

    Yes, it is significantly more detailed and laden with special rules than 2E.
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    ? I didn't realize I was on the pitch, tending...

    ?

    I didn't realize I was on the pitch, tending the goal..

    I was only responding to a poster taking an approach suitable for feat-enabled games and predicting doom and gloom for the feat-less...
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    My point regarding races is that any 2019...

    My point regarding races is that any 2019 Baldur's Gate would be a 5E Baldur's Gate, complete with Dragonborn and Tieflings always having lived there.

    I can't make sense of the idea they would...
  41. I really hope they abandon the presentation where...

    I really hope they abandon the presentation where each class just little more than a soup of feats.

    You can have flexibility and options and still paint a strong clear picture of what each class...
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    I can only speak for myself but to me it is...

    I can only speak for myself but to me it is obvious that fixes intended for feat-enabled games are best implemented using feats.

    That is, I see no reason to change the basic game at all. Any fix...
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    Let me stop you right there [emoji846] Now...

    Let me stop you right there [emoji846]

    Now you're assuming a clumsy fix that basically just removes the bonus action usage.

    And besides, nobody will argue Rangers become overpowered just...
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    There are too many desirable things you might...

    There are too many desirable things you might want to do with your bonus action.

    It would still mean TWFers would be barred from, say, a magic item that lets you take the Dash action as a bonus...
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    This.

    This.
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    The -5/+10 mechanism is definitely two too many...

    The -5/+10 mechanism is definitely two too many already. Meaning the game is better off removing it entirely, both from GWF and CE.
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    I'm okay with that. Remember that in 2E and 3E...

    I'm okay with that.

    Remember that in 2E and 3E you always added Strength to damage.

    In fact 5E removed or lessened maybe nine different limitations on Dex, which is definitely way too many.
    ...
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    What is "D&D’s new ‘Devil Deals’"? (Unless...

    What is "D&D’s new ‘Devil Deals’"?

    (Unless that was just the reporter's personal wish list...)
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    I don't live in America but I believe that's...

    I don't live in America but I believe that's easier said than done...
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    I don't see that either. Hoping for non-core...

    I don't see that either. Hoping for non-core character build options in the basic offering is... unwise in my opinion.
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    That is likely because you're not a content...

    That is likely because you're not a content owner.

    The notion of being able to rent out content again without having to sell it or otherwise transfer any rights, so you can charge a fee each and...
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    Counting down to three! 1, 2... *please check...

    Counting down to three!

    1, 2... *please check your connection*
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    That potential market is seldom deemed big enough...

    That potential market is seldom deemed big enough to be worth the hassle of a Mac implementation.
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    Except offering cloud gaming is very different...

    Except offering cloud gaming is very different than show streaming.

    But if you by "basically" mean you subscribe to a service over the Internet, then yes.

    Then Stadia is basically the EN World...
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    Yes. Everyone is all doom and gloom when it comes...

    Yes. Everyone is all doom and gloom when it comes to Stadia, but that is not our concern [emoji4]
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    Yes. I see no reason for them to encroach upon...

    Yes. I see no reason for them to encroach upon other content like that. There are plenty opportunities closer to the Baldur's Gate city that allows them to carve out their own playground.

    If they...
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    You have a point. Still, expecting full PHB...

    You have a point.

    Still, expecting full PHB support isn't mindless fangushing or idealistic naivete.

    Assuming we are really talking 5E rules (and not "5E rules") I don't see how they could have...
  58. Let's focus on the core reason for con 'ventures...

    Let's focus on the core reason for con 'ventures being poor: their incredibly short length.

    That does not mean it is impossible to tell a good story quickly, only that it is very hard to do so.
    ...
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    Believe it or not, drbadwolf, a DM ruling out a...

    Believe it or not, drbadwolf, a DM ruling out a certain build option is not alien or disagreeable in any way.

    In fact, it is perfectly reasonable. Given the players are informed well in advance of...
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    PS. I for one do not dispute the supremacy of...

    PS. I for one do not dispute the supremacy of Dex. (Just about the only reason to use Strength is to use a heavy weapon)

    Last time I checked (years ago) I believe I counted to nine ways...
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    No, now you went ahead and forgot that I only...

    No, now you went ahead and forgot that I only used haste as an example of bonus action usage.

    Okay, so I have to be brutally clear:

    The fact TWF hogs the bonus action is a significant...
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    Not sure what you mean. Yes of course TWF is...

    Not sure what you mean. Yes of course TWF is good.

    That does not mean it should be "unupgradeable".

    That is, once you get your hands on a magical effect that utilizes the bonus action, the...
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    Sure. Absolutely. The design challenge is to...

    Sure. Absolutely.

    The design challenge is to achieve mechanical distinction while maintaining this lofty goal
    a) without feats
    b) with a feat
    c) with, say, Haste
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    I see various speculation. What I don't...

    I see various speculation. What I don't understand is why it isn't obvious to more than me that of course every PHB option will be included.

    There is no reason this game will follow the world of...
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    Since I believe you could double the sneak attack...

    Since I believe you could double the sneak attack damage (d6 every level instead of every other) and the Rogue would still only be reasonably balanced I feel you can do pretty much what you want with...
  66. Reply with quote isn't working presently so I'll...

    Reply with quote isn't working presently so I'll spare you a direct reply. Suffice to say that you are free to stop responding to my posts at any time you feel your puzzlement is inconveniencing you...
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    2nd thread on this

    2nd thread on this
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    Not sure which suggested rule you're thinking of...

    Not sure which suggested rule you're thinking of here.

    The biggest problem with TWF from a game optimization standpoint is how it monopolizes the bonus action.

    A fair chunk of minmaxing as you...
  69. How about you reassuring me then, instead of...

    How about you reassuring me then, instead of merely trying to dismiss my concerns by clumsily trying to paint them as FUD? [emoji10]
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    Unless we're seeing actual game footage I don't...

    Unless we're seeing actual game footage I don't see the relevance.
  71. The caster-martial divide is never going to be...

    The caster-martial divide is never going to be bridged by mere tweaks, skills or otherwise.

    5E conclusively proved it is possible to bridge it without destroying the soul of D&D.

    I fear Paizo...
  72. No calling it a scam is slanderous and false and...

    No calling it a scam is slanderous and false and you were called out on it.
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    Yep, today's thread necromancy [emoji4]

    Yep, today's thread necromancy [emoji4]
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    The rule from Dominia targets the biggest rules...

    The rule from Dominia targets the biggest rules hole still in D&D - that the players can always game the difficulty level by choosing more or less rests, essentially trivializing any challenge if...
  75. This thread contains a poll. Warlord

    Warlord
  76. Know what I personally prefer? This sentiment...

    Know what I personally prefer? This sentiment over your last one.
  77. Ever heard of this little thing called nostalgia?...

    Ever heard of this little thing called nostalgia?

    80's role-players are middle-aged and well-off now. They can easily afford to indulge, so nope, no scam.
  78. Lol

    Lol
  79. Not entirely on topic but the biggest flaw of the...

    Not entirely on topic but the biggest flaw of the Sorcerer isn't what you get but what you don't get. Just think about it for a minute - what cool archetypal characters do you think of when you...
  80. Sorry but it is time to cut to the chase here -...

    Sorry but it is time to cut to the chase here - all that means is that the base Sorcerer class is powerful. Implying that the subclass itself brings much to the table is not going to impress anyone....
  81. Yes, of course the wizard is significantly more...

    Yes, of course the wizard is significantly more flexible than the sorcerer; trying to argue otherwise is absurd when the wizard can replace his entire list every long rest. Even considering the...
  82. Absolutely. Any class can be plenty of fun....

    Absolutely.

    Any class can be plenty of fun. But we weren't discussing fun.
  83. Regarding metamagic: Yes, the implementation...

    Regarding metamagic:

    Yes, the implementation is boring since you take Quicken and Twin and then you basically couldn't care less about the rest.

    But the notion you have too few metamagic...
  84. Not sure I see the point of mentioning me. ...

    Not sure I see the point of mentioning me.

    The only adventures I find worthy of my time are the lavishly detailed ones. Just because they come with flesh and skin doesn't mean I can't change...
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    Ask the Soulless of Barovia.

    Ask the Soulless of Barovia.
  86. Alrighty then.

    Alrighty then.
  87. This would help insofar that at any con rated PG...

    This would help insofar that at any con rated PG (which would be all of them unless you know otherwise) the use of the M card would be prohibited.

    Just a reminder that the core issue is having...
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    If you must add abilities to your BBEGs for them...

    If you must add abilities to your BBEGs for them not to be trivially shut down by hero abilities something's broken alright.
  89. Please link to the other thread.

    Please link to the other thread.
  90. When you have rando walk-ins you don't do rapey...

    When you have rando walk-ins you don't do rapey themes period.
  91. I've been to 'cons, and even had a few fun times....

    I've been to 'cons, and even had a few fun times. But in all those cases the scenario runs overtime.

    I'd say anything less than 8 hours and you're kidding yourself.
  92. I would argue caution. Once you scratch the...

    I would argue caution. Once you scratch the surface you might find the rules very cluttery if not outright broken. 4E is at any rate much MUCH more crunchy than any preceding edition.

    I would...
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    Saying "I don't think TWF is so poor it needs...

    Saying "I don't think TWF is so poor it needs improvement" is fine.

    Saying "since you get to use your bonus action with TWF, it's actually fine" is, on the other hand complete nonsense of course....
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    This reveals a very rudimentary insight into...

    This reveals a very rudimentary insight into combat tactics.

    Getting the big bad shunted away while you kill the rest (a task now considerably easier) is a big win.

    Killing the lone monster...
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    First level characters die easily. Spells that...

    First level characters die easily. Spells that kill them are not broken.
  96. You really need a new insurance company

    You really need a new insurance company
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    How does that matter? (Whether you use the 3e...

    How does that matter?

    (Whether you use the 3e or 5e ogl to make a 4e:ish game I mean)
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    That's a strange criticism. Assuming you...

    That's a strange criticism.

    Assuming you don't merely mean "I disagree" but like the faux-objective sheen of pseudo-lawyerly talk better, and actually ask for reasonable context, what kind of...
  99. Myself, I want 3E (or, I'm sure, PF2) complexity...

    Myself, I want 3E (or, I'm sure, PF2) complexity for the players and 5E simplicity for me, the DM.
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    Since it is a newly created account with only one...

    Since it is a newly created account with only one post, it is also possible it's a spammer. Some spam bots first post a vague but not rules-breaking post, and only change it to include a spam link...
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