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  1. Cool! I will use this to update the spreadsheet...

    Cool!
    I will use this to update the spreadsheet I have. The nicely formatted stat-block is a piece I am missing.
  2. Morrus, Running my short list of bad guys...

    Morrus,
    Running my short list of bad guys through with a cap of defense of MDP * 4 had essentially the same effect as the much longer process of calculating a high/medium/low process. So in the...
  3. Actually I think we are talking past each other,...

    Actually I think we are talking past each other, with text based communication and terms getting in the way of meaning.

    Yes, granularly design your monsters and build your brute using attributes...
  4. Actually more like the 2e approach with...

    Actually more like the 2e approach with high/med/low save progressions but turned into a cap.

    My reasoning behind using 'roles' is that AGI is king resulting in high melee defense and high ranged...
  5. Damn Microsoft! Retyping this post off-line so I...

    Damn Microsoft! Retyping this post off-line so I don't lose it again when my browser decides to just stop.

    I have been thinking about the attack vs defense cap issue as I have a game this Friday...
  6. Hey, you are welcome to stop by and join the...

    Hey, you are welcome to stop by and join the game! Just pop across the pond anytime :)



    "Your optimized example may find that at one task he doesn't need gain any benefit from equipment"...
    ...
  7. Except that lesser mortals cannot benefit from...

    Except that lesser mortals cannot benefit from the better gear.

    Oh..bootstraps. so flip this. Lets say 5 grade character with 4d stat plus 3 dice skill and improvised equipment for -2 dice..= 5...
  8. I think the system makes masterwork equipment...

    I think the system makes masterwork equipment more valuable to an equally skilled character of higher grade.
    In order to be the best you can be {max die pool}, you start with a stat pool of 3D and a...
  9. Then Fantasy Core, just downloaded, has the same...

    Then Fantasy Core, just downloaded, has the same example benchmark table error.
  10. Hmm. I will have to try to wrap my head around...

    Hmm. I will have to try to wrap my head around that paradigm.. it is much flatter and provides a lot less swingyness in a external/artificial sort of way.

    Did you get a chance to look at the...
  11. For climbing, note that that character has the...

    For climbing, note that that character has the proper skill level. Since skill cant exceed stat, quality equipment is pointless to characters until they get to be higher grade. And even then a...
  12. Dice Pools, Grades, and Difficulties

    I will start by admitting that I am not totally clear of the play-test material.. sometimes rules just stick in my head.


    Die pools consist of Stat + skill + equipment.
    This is capped by the...
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    That is exactly what I mean, something to be used...

    That is exactly what I mean, something to be used in disabling magical traps or devices.. or repairing them.. whichever.

    In my case its disabling an evil machinery that is sucking the souls out of...
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    Doing Science - Arcana

    Going to use the Doing Science rule at the end of the current adventure {probably not in tonight's session..} as the PC's try to disable an Eldritch Machine...

    Is there a 'Magic' or 'Arcana' D66...
  15. GlassEye's image appears to be the only place the...

    GlassEye's image appears to be the only place the issue pops up.
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      Fantasy equipment page 36, fortified states that...

    Fantasy equipment page 36, fortified states that triple sixes are required vs double sixes to score a critical hit...future core says critical requires trip-six already.

    Sent from my SM-G920P...
  17. Don't pay any mind my formatting here.. a couple...

    Don't pay any mind my formatting here.. a couple 'quick conversions' using the guidelines..


    Living Darkness {Eberron setting}

    *edit: capped defenses at MDP * 4


    Living Darkness
    Large...
  18. Glass Eye has the right of it. The error first...

    Glass Eye has the right of it. The error first pops up on page 11.
  19. Minor problem with the haunting.. the pdf is...

    Minor problem with the haunting.. the pdf is missing a font which messes up a couple of lines. Read through last night and the story reads solid.
  20. I might be able to adapt this into my game as...

    I might be able to adapt this into my game as soon as the group finishes off the cultists group they encountered last session. I have already mentioned a ruins ahead of them on the map... just no...
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    THanks, busy prepping monsters and villagers, but...

    THanks, busy prepping monsters and villagers, but will look at this soon!
  22. Accidental double post

    <snip>
    Accidental double post
  23. Interesting. I grabbed a copy, and ended up...

    Interesting. I grabbed a copy, and ended up getting a couple other Ravenloft related pdfs, including 'Heroes of the Mist' which includes a lot of good material, including a variant Dread mechanic...
  24. Haven't downloaded {not wanting to set up yet...

    Haven't downloaded {not wanting to set up yet another account}, but wanted to ask how your mechanic for 'Dread' differs from the 2e implementation of power checks and the terror track?
  25. And magic missile is a strong spell to start...

    And magic missile is a strong spell to start with. Try fireball...

    EDIT: The biggest cost difference comes in the range/area of effect portion.. and to make it worse spell development in 3x is...
  26. Getting closer! I will dig into this more...

    Getting closer!

    I will dig into this more later and do some more conversion work, but just a quick thought that popped in. Heavy creatures should get a boost to their Carry.

    Magic. An option...
  27. Nice!

    Nice!
  28. This. The encounter per day guideline should...

    This.
    The encounter per day guideline should shape adventure design, not force the play at the table.

    As to the OP, my tendency is 3 to 5 encounters in an adventuring day with the potential for...
  29. 4e stats are pretty equivalent, minus the whole...

    4e stats are pretty equivalent, minus the whole Minion/Monster/Elite/Solo breakout.

    Well, for example lets look at the 3.5 Treant and the WOIN Ent with the conversion process.

    WOIN Ent


    STR...
  30. Okay, ran into my first conversion challenge...

    Okay, ran into my first conversion challenge question... related to 4e specifically but also an issue with D20 > WOIN in general.

    The problem revolves around the attack bonus. In D20 the...
  31. I have yet to see a conversion from one system to...

    I have yet to see a conversion from one system to another that was anywhere near perfect!

    Ideally we would have a searchable non-copyright-infringing database of monsters converted to WOIN..in...
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    Caveat; I am using my knowledge of EoM and the...

    Caveat; I am using my knowledge of EoM and the material on the WOIN website.. so I might be off...

    Key point is that the Enduring Object enhancement is not 'permanency'. The spell you described...
  33. I think caster level = magic is a pretty close...

    I think caster level = magic is a pretty close enough conversion. As you mentioned in an earlier thread, most magic using monsters should be build with exploits as opposed to actual spell casting......
  34. Considered bringing in Chi for another players...

    Considered bringing in Chi for another players martial focused character... ;)

    But he went normal unarmed combat ala Mongo {replete with a bull}
  35. makes sense. My new game is set in Eberron and...

    makes sense. My new game is set in Eberron and one of my players is a Khalastar.. so bringing PSI into OLD.
  36. Follow-up question: I am not seeing any PSI Focus...

    Follow-up question: I am not seeing any PSI Focus crystals or similar ilk... are there any special implements for PSI?
  37. Okay, that does make more sense and the missing...

    Okay, that does make more sense and the missing line is a tad bit important!

    I would recommend rewriting the power block with a 'BASE' and 'BOOST' entry to help with clarity, something like:
  38. New: Confusion over PSI vs power points

    I am not really tracking how psionic powers work with regard to PSI costs and boosts.

    Correct me if I am off track on this: I have a PSI attribute of 10, which gives me 100 power points and a 4D6...
  39. Looking forward to it!

    Looking forward to it!
  40. Okay, I will check that out. Re the hex-grid.....

    Okay, I will check that out.

    Re the hex-grid.. I am not a graphics sort of person. I just want to open an image file, adjust the size of the hex overlay.. and hit save.
  41. World Building and Wilderness Travel

    Over the past couple of years I have dabbles with campaign building, hex-crawl, and wilderness travel. Along the way I have found lost of great resources like Inspiration Pad Pro, Bits of Wilderness,...
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    Thanks!

    Thanks!
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    Okay. I would recommend moving the Cestus out...

    Okay.

    I would recommend moving the Cestus out of the weapon listing and into the gauntlet listing for clarity.

    Thanks
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    Okay... So 'unarmed' is not a 'weapon'. But...

    Okay...

    So 'unarmed' is not a 'weapon'. But a Cestus {a glove with brass-knuckles built that adds 1D to unarmed damage} is? And a Boxing Glove {a padded glove that adds 1D to unarmed 'stunning'...
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    Cold you post said side-bar? If I am reading...

    Cold you post said side-bar?

    If I am reading this correctly:

    Any character can 'dual-wield' and attack twice in a single action with penalties; primary weapon at -2D, off-hand weapon at -4D
    ...
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    Off-hand weapon?

    Ambidextrous states you get a free melee attack "...as long as you are using a double weapon or a secondary off-hand weapon."

    What is the definition of off-hand? Is it any melee weapon of at least...
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    Okay.. question time. Am I reading this...

    Okay.. question time. Am I reading this right.

    Determining Physical and Ranged defenses.

    1) Create a dice pool based on attribute, skill and equipment.
    STR 12 = 4D + Dodging 4 = 2D +...
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    Just downloaded my copy :) That screen shot...

    Just downloaded my copy :)

    That screen shot shows the verbiage is specific enough to avoid a misunderstanding.
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    Thanks. You could probably pin it alongside the...

    Thanks. You could probably pin it alongside the errata listing.

    Something jumped out at me while looking at your screenshots... and this is a knee-jerk reaction to a case of stupid many year...
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    OLD is NEW Core Book ?

    Hoi chummers,

    I am prepping for a revisit to OLD with my group, and wondered when-ish we can expect to see the "OLD is NEW Core Book" that the Fantasy Career book says it requires....

    Better...
  51. And in response to item #2... yes, the idea is to...

    And in response to item #2... yes, the idea is to get the Shahalesti into the fight for real, but cripple Ragesia from being able to defeat them easily and gaining more power. The intended end state...
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    Hello Jay, welcome to the forum! I am not...

    Hello Jay, welcome to the forum!

    I am not sure how much Morrus has worked on the concept since the post you replied to was dated back in 2014. The WOIN website portion on magic doesn't reference...
  53. I read these as well... so that's at least an...

    I read these as well... so that's at least an audience of two!

    With regard to the stat block, I would put it after skills and before gear. Also, I would add a couple {perhaps a number equal to the...
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    Thanks, I trimmed down the attack numbers. I...

    Thanks, I trimmed down the attack numbers. I think Mongo will like this one :)
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    No Bull

    One of my players is doing the Mongo thing, complete with a bull companion animal...

    This is a wild stab at stats:

    ==================================
    Mage-Bred Bull
    Large semi-sentient beast...
  56. Page 20: Outdoor skill list doesn't include...

    Page 20: Outdoor skill list doesn't include Nature.

    Double Shot as an exploit to fire two shots and can only be used once per turn and is limits use of other exploits and requires two targets...
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    I do much better with hard-copy products....so...

    I do much better with hard-copy products....so when you get it posted on RPG Now I will order a soft-cover version....
  58. OLD: Char Gen questions and possible errata

    Last night's session was a character building session. My group has participated in the playtest but took a break to play champions. My turn in the GM seat came back around so its time for some more...
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    Okay, will dig through the website for the magic...

    Okay, will dig through the website for the magic rules.



    On the character generation worksheet from your website, page 2 reads:

    NATURAL DAMAGE 1d6 + 1d6 for each size over Medium; Felans...
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    Old: Magic confusion

    I am confused.. and so are my players.
    The starter booklet has characters with spell paths and says to read the OLD character generation to learn how to gain spell paths.

    The most recent OLD...
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    This thread contains a poll. I didn't vote in the poll because the concept of...

    I didn't vote in the poll because the concept of 'fail forward' is not a clear-cut deal. In my mind, the critical piece of the concept is highlighted in bold in the above quote, but I will repeat...
  62. It probably makes much more sense in my head. ...

    It probably makes much more sense in my head.

    My thought was to have a mechanic that supported the narrative of super-natural opponents {ones with Virtues} being harder to defeat than their...
  63. Demons, Devils, and Angels - and their spawn

    Random thought regarding monster building in WOIN, which {of course} involves a rules tweak.

    What if all Demonic/Angelic creatures received a Soak {Evil} equal to their Grade. This special form of...
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    My apologies, I typed that wrong. It should have...

    My apologies, I typed that wrong. It should have been:



    Sorry, you know me. I can't resist rules-tweaking!
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    Thanks! On my way over!

    Thanks! On my way over!
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    Fantasy Grounds

    Morrus, you posted that Fantasy Grounds was going to work on supporting WOIN. I picked up a copy {not just because of this.. been looking at it for a while}.

    Who do I get in touch with to...
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    Checking out the new magic rules {while playing a...

    Checking out the new magic rules {while playing a WEG game online.. so hopefully not crossing rule-sets}

    If I am reading it right the spell lists idea is out. Characters use exploits to learn...
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    I will take a renewed look at the Magic system....

    I will take a renewed look at the Magic system. My group will be making characters next Friday, but not playing until after the holidays are over.

    Perhaps I should have phrased it better.. looking...
  69. Unholy Thread Necromancy! Did you 'cut the...

    Unholy Thread Necromancy!

    Did you 'cut the cheese'?

    :)

    Regretfully, the group successfully bypassed the entire treasure vault. So the cheese still awaits a nibbling.
  70. Good to know. By the by.. that web page...

    Good to know.

    By the by.. that web page with the white background and light grey menu text....? Old farts like me have trouble reading it.
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    Those pages look good! I am back in the...

    Those pages look good!

    I am back in the hot-seat for DMing and will be returning to OLD after a bit of a break. I was hoping to find an updated playtest document to download... ;)
  72. Change: "Each affected creature may repeat the...

    Change: "Each affected creature may repeat the saving throw at the end of its turn to end the condition early."

    To: "Each affected creature that leaves the cone may repeat the saving throw at the...
  73. I tried to catch up on the thead, so I might have...

    I tried to catch up on the thead, so I might have missed this. One major problem I have had with bringing in replacement PCs an 3x and later has been magic items. Often the party would strip the dead...
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    The 'lucky' character to me is Han Solo. 007 is...

    The 'lucky' character to me is Han Solo. 007 is supposed to be skill and prior planning, James Kirk is supposed to be a charismatic and intelligent leader who has a team of awesome folks behind him....
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    Luck... Again!

    Not playtest material, just brainstorming.

    Luck/hero points/etc.. have been a difficult mechanic so far. My group loved the first iteration {exploding dice, dice pool equal to your LUCK...
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    Sentience modifier for Mental Defense similar to...

    Sentience modifier for Mental Defense similar to the Size modifier?

    And to clarify, your verbiage seems mixed with regards to equipment. is it:

    a> "The equipment dice will come from shields...
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    Printer Freindly format

    I love the artwork and look of the PDF pages.. but my printer does not. Will there be a printer-freindly version?
  78. My quick skim over says this looks very good! I...

    My quick skim over says this looks very good! I will have to spend some more time with it later this weekend {after I print it off so I can better proof-read!}




    One thing Morrus gets me on...
  79. Welcome to the boards! While Morrus is...

    Welcome to the boards!
    While Morrus is digging through his dusty computer drive, let me toss my hat in on some of this:

    1) Concentration spells: The intent of the concentration duration in the...
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    Totally left field.. how about combining offense...

    Totally left field.. how about combining offense and defence into a 'combat' pool that can split up into pools for attack {To hit}, dodge {DEF}, and block {SOAK}. Tradition caps the max you can put...
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    Since this is a brainstorm :) Def = sum of...

    Since this is a brainstorm :)

    Def = sum of the die values for 6 of the characters attributes
    - reduces reliance on a given stat, minimal change to rule-set, and promoted generalist over focused...
  82. I would go back to the 'Heroes of Battle' concept...

    I would go back to the 'Heroes of Battle' concept of creating the battle {in this case a storm} as a dungeon and make it the focus of a single game session. You would have a series of 'room's...
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    Buried on page three of a previous countdown...

    Buried on page three of a previous countdown thread: Dice Decay Timers

    As previously mentioned this table does not match with the calculations Morrus came up with due to rounding.

    Expected...
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    Ah, that makes much more sense. Thanks

    Ah, that makes much more sense. Thanks
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    Question: mages focus on LOG to the exclusion of...

    Question: mages focus on LOG to the exclusion of INT and WIL. This means that they are more susceptible to magic than other traditions?
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    I was working in the reverse of how you are...

    I was working in the reverse of how you are working.
    You are starting with a base creature and building up, then calculating XP and level.. which esitmates what sort of threat the critter would be...
  87. Discussion of Bows

    Thoughts on Bows and Crossbows: some extra rules

    Unlike melee weapons, bows and crossbows do not come in 'oversized' versions. Rather they are rated by size. You can weild a bow/crossbow that is...
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    Other way around, I had spec'd the Wolf based on...

    Other way around, I had spec'd the Wolf based on a previous published Wolf in the NEW document and was using that as my of 'is this critter stronger or weaker than a wolf' to estimate what level the...
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    Cool, I haven't been able to commit serious...

    Cool,

    I haven't been able to commit serious time to it, but last night I did a scrub of the 30ish critters I have in my database {added most of the ones in the attached} and have been working...
  90. I concur with Umbran, I too have an indecisive...

    I concur with Umbran, I too have an indecisive player who pretty much fits your description. However the group knows that he has a touch of obsessive/compulsive/attention deficit and tends to take...
  91. Sorry about that, I had printed a copy off for...

    Sorry about that, I had printed a copy off for review during lunch and did a quick posting before I ended up spending work time on this :)

    I have updated the post for clarity, but haven't gone...
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    Thanks!

    Thanks!
  93. Quick review from lunch break: PDF lacks...

    Quick review from lunch break:


    PDF lacks page numbers!

    The following issues are listed under the paragraph headings, which are now in bold and are in order of appearance.


    Core Mechanic...
  94. Are my critters on the mark? or do I need to...

    Are my critters on the mark? or do I need to wait/rework them?
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    Yes and no. My definition is anemic because it is...

    Yes and no. My definition is anemic because it is not a definition of absolute chaos. As you state, there is a range that spans from the extremes of Lawful Stupid in which the letter of the law is...
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    The way I read the Law/Chaos dicotomy is...

    The way I read the Law/Chaos dicotomy is basically the question of loyalty to a system.

    Lawful beings follow the rules of their society/clan/organization even when they disagree with them. When...
  97. I wouldn't say irredeemably derailed... just side...

    I wouldn't say irredeemably derailed... just side tracked!

    My brain has been muddling this over, god only knows why.. here are some thoughts I have had on the OP.

    Fantasy societys are generally...
  98. Celebrim, You are right that I am undermining...

    Celebrim,

    You are right that I am undermining my own claim. However that is exactly what lays at the crux of the issue is comparing a game world construct {alignment} to real world organizations...
  99. Thanks! And recently retired after 27 years of...

    Thanks!

    And recently retired after 27 years of service... ;)
    Military service, and mercanary work, involve being a collection of people who follow a set of rules and structure and visit...
  100. This ia a very interesting thread, and I...

    This ia a very interesting thread, and I appreciate the civil discussion present. Threads like this are why I really appreciate EnWorld!

    On to the topic. In my opinion there are a number of things...
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