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    Admittedly, when I think of Chaotic Neutral, I...

    Admittedly, when I think of Chaotic Neutral, I think of committed.

    In game, "My goodness, Uruk the Flighty should be committed."

    Out of game, "I swear ... I will need to be committed if...
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    Interesting! Thank you for the link. FWIW,...

    Interesting!

    Thank you for the link.

    FWIW, I would like a boxed set (as in new stuff, not just a re-skinned beginners' box, or collecting the previously-published books).

    Something like the...
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    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/image...

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/9/97/Blackknight.png

    Oh, oh I see. Running away, eh?! You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll impale you!!
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    Hockey was my sun, hockey was my earth But the...

    Hockey was my sun, hockey was my earth
    But the Leafs didn't know all the ways I loved them, no
    So the Raptors took a chance, made other plans
    And I bet the Warriors didn't think that Durant would...
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    Some cause happiness wherever the go; Paladins,...

    Some cause happiness wherever the go; Paladins, whenever they go.
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    I mean, yeah, but he could have done so much...

    I mean, yeah, but he could have done so much better.

    "Hey guys, did you hear the news?

    They are gearing up for a complete revamp- they are leaning hard into a new, improved AEDU system and a...
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    That's because it's not. When most people...

    That's because it's not.

    When most people discuss "DoD,"* they are talking about the classic I3, I4, I5.

    Pharoah (later I3) was first created by Hickman in the 70s, and then expanded to the...
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    Chaotic Neutral is the Gnome of Alignments. ...

    Chaotic Neutral is the Gnome of Alignments.

    Whereas Chaotic Good is the Dex rapier-build. Super popular because it sucks.
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    This thread contains a poll. You've won a basketball championship, AND you...

    You've won a basketball championship, AND you have a shooting?

    Welcome to the US, Toronto!
  10. Alchemy Jug 27 Bag of Holding 25 Bag of Tricks...

    Alchemy Jug 27
    Bag of Holding 25
    Bag of Tricks 24
    Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals 14
    Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals 14
    Broom of Flying 20
    Carpet of Flying 26
    Censer of Controlling...
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    Good question! And the answer is .... because...

    Good question!

    And the answer is .... because then it wouldn't be aptitude bias as you are calling it. :)

    I don't mean that to be snarky; but to give you the appropriate analogy (with a bit of...
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    So, let me first answer that with a video- ...

    So, let me first answer that with a video-

    https://youtu.be/-g-Pzf7-Bso

    Did you watch? Good!

    "I can't frame that. There's loads and loads of things you just did that might as well be...
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    Other ideas- B4 is one of my favorites,...

    Other ideas-

    B4 is one of my favorites, although primarily UNDERNEATH the desert.

    Most Dark Sun adventures can, obviously, be used as Desert Adventures.
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    If not Desert of Desolation, then I would second...

    If not Desert of Desolation, then I would second X4/X5 (not so much X10).

    Absolutely love running those.

    (Originally for the X in B/X, easy to convert to 5e)
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    This thread contains a poll. Guess the cross-over between Basketball fans and...

    Guess the cross-over between Basketball fans and enworld commenters is, um, two.

    The op and me.

    And the number of NBA fans/enworld commenters/Neil Young enthusiasts ....
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    NO! I demand that you do not narrate them. I...

    NO!

    I demand that you do not narrate them. I want my framing to be minimalist, as if Dieter "Leibe meine Abschminke*" Rams possessed you!

    DM: "A room."

    Player: "um..... okay ... what kind of...
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    Hmmm... I swear he was thinking about The...

    Hmmm...

    I swear he was thinking about The Wrong Side, or The Birds Box, or Speed by Speedwest, or perhaps it was Speed 2: A Stranger Named Jason Patric on a Train?


    But I'm not sure you can...
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    That's because it's tagged with Homebrew. The...

    That's because it's tagged with Homebrew.

    The only homebrew I partake in better get me wicked messed up.

    I don't want my homebrew to make me read about exploding toads ... I want my homebrew to...
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    I was thinking about your comment, re: the media,...

    I was thinking about your comment, re: the media, and dragoner's comment, directly above it.

    I'm not looking at specific things, more of a gestalt.
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    "Every movie is better with Sandra Bullock." ...

    "Every movie is better with Sandra Bullock."

    Alfred Hitchcock, probably.



    I resemble that comment ... wait a minute, how dare you accurately use my own words against me! I demand I retract...
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    Well .... Okay, so I've been looking at what...

    Well ....

    Okay, so I've been looking at what everyone has been saying (and a LOT of good stuff in here), including dragoner and his very thoughtful, albeit gut-punchy comment above yours (I don't...
  22. Snarf! ... and .... oh boy .... I can't stop...

    Snarf! ... and .... oh boy .... I can't stop myself ... you've been warned about this blast from the past!


    Valley Elf,
    Heís a Valley Elf,
    Valley Elf,
    Heís a Valley Elf ...
  23. What I liked most about the early stuff (I am...

    What I liked most about the early stuff (I am thinking OD&D, B/X, and especially AD&D) was that anything was possible.

    Yes, it was serious. But it also had lots of humor (as you point out) and...
  24. While I wish you had framed it differently, using...

    While I wish you had framed it differently, using different words (see what I did there), I will try to just state my position:

    First, this isn't about RPGs in general; this is about TTRPGs.*
    ...
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    I would say that I would never pass up a biscuit,...

    I would say that I would never pass up a biscuit, but, you know, carbs. Virtual carbs are the worst, man. They make your commenting all flabby-like.

    But yes, these threads are like cheese! I know...
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    This thread contains a poll. Ten Warriors but Kawhi's shootin' The NBA...

    Ten Warriors but Kawhi's shootin'
    The NBA Championship is ours to own
    This summer for the Raptors I am rootin'
    Bring the Championship to Toronto


    Gotta get down to it
    Kawhi is gunning the...
  27. Alchemy Jug 25 Bag of Beans 10 Bag of Holding...

    Alchemy Jug 25
    Bag of Beans 10
    Bag of Holding 24
    Bag of Tricks 23
    Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals 14
    Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals 14
    Broom of Flying 21
    Carpet of Flying 25
    Censer...
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    So why did you assume this was the reason behind...

    So why did you assume this was the reason behind the discomfort? If it wasn't?
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    Nope.

    Nope.
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    I hear what you're saying, but I'd go back to...

    I hear what you're saying, but I'd go back to what I was discussing with manbearcat, in that you can't really disambiguate them like that.

    Which is is what I've been trying to say for a while;...
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    All substance, no style, and you are just playing...

    All substance, no style, and you are just playing a boardgame ... or a wargame.

    All style, no substance, and you are just doing community theater.

    That's why it's neither ... or both. It tastes...
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    Interesting- you might want to look at some of...

    Interesting- you might want to look at some of the excellent web resources they have regarding the use of RPGs for autistic children (I have mentioned this before). There are some excellent write-ups...
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    "When you say inching, do you mean moving with...

    "When you say inching, do you mean moving with the old AD&D system of movement? Is this the coelacanth of squamous entities, thought extinct since the halcyon days of 12", brought back to terrorize...
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    O. M. G. So I was going to come on to...

    O.

    M.

    G.

    So I was going to come on to this thread and post about this senior moment I was having ... there was this game I bought, and it looked so cool, so very very cool, and I loved the...
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    Weirdly, I was primarily thinking about my...

    Weirdly, I was primarily thinking about my experience teaching D&D (5e) to kids in this thread as well. The goal is always to have them go off and form their own groups.

    .... and you see the kids...
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    Someone else just told me that my quote is...

    Someone else just told me that my quote is blacked out on a different thread....

    I don't see your fix??????
  37. And Paladin for the "Die in a fire" concept?

    And Paladin for the "Die in a fire" concept?
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    Yes, it is very tiring to repeat myself....

    Yes, it is very tiring to repeat myself. Especially when people talk down to you despite the fact that you have been addressing these points, repeatedly.

    ...and you clearly knew that with the...
  39. To be clear- I did not mean to imply you are not...

    To be clear- I did not mean to imply you are not roleplaying!

    And it's not just about roleplaying restrictions as rules.* It's more ... hmmm... when I think of integration of rules and fluff, I...
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    That's a great point! I mean, it's not like...

    That's a great point!

    I mean, it's not like I've ever discussed the history of the thread, ever painstakingly quoted the specific OP and the followup, as well as the predecessor threads, in order...
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    My last post- Do you ever feel like you...

    My last post-



    Do you ever feel like you keep saying, over days and weeks, that people are talking past each other, because of definitions, and you keep saying that, and every now and then,...
  42. Bingo. That's what I meant when I wrote the...

    Bingo.

    That's what I meant when I wrote the following-



    A lot of players have the TwoSix philosophy (that D&D is just a bunch of mechanics that you mix and match to make your own concepts)....
  43. See, I disagree. And that's fine! Personally,...

    See, I disagree. And that's fine!

    Personally, I think that 5e, by moving in the direction of a toolbox, is going in the wrong way.

    And allowing Clerics and Warlocks to multi-class together?...
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    ...dude. You are literally using hierarchy in its...

    ...dude. You are literally using hierarchy in its adverb form.This single sentence starts with "Hence" (that is one of TWO hences), contains multiple ellipses, a parenthetical, and multiple...
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    At this point, it is necessary to say that John...

    At this point, it is necessary to say that John Wick (as a franchise) is not just enjoyable, but the HOLY TRILOGY is the greatest set of movies, ever.

    The only thing that could make John Wick 4...
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    ... is that really the point you felt necessary...

    ... is that really the point you felt necessary to make?

    That, and not the "possibly mentally ill hermit I need to murder for his stuff[.]"


    I know the argument you are trying to make, and the...
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    ....not sure I appreciate this comment .... ...

    ....not sure I appreciate this comment ....


    :P
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    I'm an American. Of course I will complain. ...

    I'm an American.

    Of course I will complain.

    What? You think that some sort of shame ... or concern about hypocrisy ... will keep me from complaining?


    HECK NO!

    My right to complain is...
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    Argh. This doesn't understand the P.O.V. that...

    Argh.

    This doesn't understand the P.O.V. that others have, which is why this whole thing has been bollixed from the beginning.

    Look, let's use the examples of, say, you, Pemerton, Manbearcat,...
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    I would totally play a game with interpretive...

    I would totally play a game with interpretive dance for narration.

    I mean, I'd play it poorly, but still!

    (I'm thinking about how to say, using dance, "I rolled a 13. Did I hit?" I think I have...
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    Yeah, as I wrote originally, this nagging idea...

    Yeah, as I wrote originally, this nagging idea re: violence first started when I was reading through B2 and preparing it for kids.
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    Okay. But that's not necessarily the case, is it?...

    Okay. But that's not necessarily the case, is it?

    Just because something is depicted in fiction, doesn't mean that it is perfectly acceptable.

    And we have various tolerances for fictional...
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    Alchemy Jug 26
    Bag of Beans 12
    Bag of Holding 23
    Bag of Tricks 25
    Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals 16
    Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals 16
    Broom of Flying 20
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    Well- it was exactly what I thought. The ďyesĒ to...

    Well- it was exactly what I thought. The ďyesĒ to a no (literally with the bad writer example!).

    You just have have a very different definition of things than I do.
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    No. Iím not kidding. As everyone who pays...

    No. Iím not kidding. As everyone who pays attention knows, I donít play 3e or 4e, and I donít make claims about those editions.

    So... again, assuming youíre trying to pick some sort of fight?...
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    Why are we okay with violence in RPGs?

    So, this is a thread / thought / discussion starter.

    I am going to start by saying that I am not looking to open this up to general comments about adult themes, etc. in RPGs. So, please don't,...
  57. Some lines you just never expect to see. As...

    Some lines you just never expect to see.

    As pretty as an airport.

    My favorite line from a Taylor Swift song.

    As sad as seeing a room full of dead gnomes.

    As enjoyable as a D&D game with...
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    Hehehehehehehe. So, the second one is quick...

    Hehehehehehehe.

    So, the second one is quick and easy. IMO, of course someone can be great at, say, writing (beautiful prose) but unable to provide a good spoken narration. It's closer when it...
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    I know that normally this blog is a place full of...

    I know that normally this blog is a place full of joy and happiness and maybe even the occasional Mini-taur joke. But some people, such as me, suffer from Sarcasm Immodulation Disorder. Iím unable...
  60. On the plus side, at least the stance finally...

    On the plus side, at least the stance finally came to light, instead of dancing around various concerns. Sunlight, disinfectant, etc.
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    A simple question? I PREDICT TWO QUESTIONS!...

    A simple question? I PREDICT TWO QUESTIONS! Muahaahahahahahahah!



    No.



    Yes.
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    Right, but again, what you wrote above...

    Right, but again, what you wrote above necessarily is engaging. There is no easy way to put this, but there seems to some sort of dichotomy that some people have in mind, wherein they are trying to...
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    Um ... are you kidding? I can't tell if...

    Um ... are you kidding?

    I can't tell if you're serious, or looking to have an argument for no good reason?


    So, assuming you don't know, or didn't play much of the older edition (honestly...
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    I am so going to regret this. *sigh* At a...

    I am so going to regret this.

    *sigh*

    At a certain point, isn't this just an issue of what we are going to say constitutes "framing" and what constitutes "narration/performance?"


    I mean,...
  65. Well, first, this is exactly how humans operate....

    Well, first, this is exactly how humans operate. I mean ... we're humans. We are operating. Therefore, by definition ...


    Second ... what? "I mean, I realize that I'm in a Western, and that guy...
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    Fighter, Level 12, AD&D. 3 attacks every two...

    Fighter, Level 12, AD&D.

    3 attacks every two rounds with a melee weapon.

    Average of 58hp (assuming no constitution bonus- also, don't forget, no ASIs, no retroactive con bonuses).

    Assume a...
  67. I'm so excited! And i just can't hide it! ...

    I'm so excited!

    And i just can't hide it!

    I'm about to lose control and I think I .... darn it.


    That's not right, either!
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    Mmmm. I like this. Not only the banality of...

    Mmmm. I like this.

    Not only the banality of the play, but the bonus of crushed expectations, with an added soupcon of wasted time spent in meaningless character creation!

    I think we are getting...
  69. A man, a plan, a canal, Palindrome. .... darn...

    A man, a plan, a canal, Palindrome.

    .... darn it. Missing something. What should I do?

    Borrow, or rob?
  70. Arguably, that's because there is a very toxic...

    Arguably, that's because there is a very toxic subset within our community that pops up and feels the need to defend this type of thing.

    Sometimes it is overt defense:

    "Can't those women take a...
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    So, yes, this was a rule. It wasn't in addition...

    So, yes, this was a rule. It wasn't in addition to their attacks, however, it was their attack (IOW, it wasn't 1 attack + lots of attacks, it was, if you were fighting critters with under 1hd, or...
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    On the internet, no one knows you already are a...

    On the internet, no one knows you already are a Kangaroo.

    Also? If you can win, doesn't that completely remove the entire point? I do not want the exhilaration of winning!

    The game should be a...
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    Oh, those are some thoughts! I was thinking...

    Oh, those are some thoughts!

    I was thinking more along the lines of an existential RPG, kind of like a "Waiting for Gygax" sort of thing.

    Maybe something along the lines of the players in a...
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    typo

    I was watching Waiting for the Artist* last night (a parody of The Artist is Present) and I was thinking to myself-

    "Self, what if you had a TTRPG that reveled in the banal details? That thrived...
  75. So, I am not entirely, 100%, convinced on this...

    So, I am not entirely, 100%, convinced on this one. I could go either way.

    So, here's my (incomplete, subject to change) thought process on this:

    1. In favor of not disclosing his name. So,...
  76. 1. Tables / page. 2. Different dice used...

    1. Tables / page.

    2. Different dice used (scatterplot of type of dice, e.g., d4, d6, d8, etc. with frequency of use).

    3. Frequency of use of percentile dice.

    4. Expected reading level (in...
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    Oh. No. Counterpoint- defining what D&D has...

    Oh.

    No.

    Counterpoint- defining what D&D has always been is difficult, of course. I mean, there are certain indications, such as the "Core Four" classes, and fireballs, that are necessary but...
  78. Wait. I know the answer to this. What is ... a...

    Wait. I know the answer to this. What is ... a warlord, Alex?

    Did I win?



    So, in response to your suggestions-

    1. Eh, whatever. It's interesting enough in 5e. It's not like we lost...
  79. Sure. I mean, if someone does not dispute the...

    Sure. I mean, if someone does not dispute the charges during the investigation, and then becomes the tool of a particularly virulent and obnoxious strain of troll .... well, you can assign that...
  80. From the post that you were provided...

    From the post that you were provided
    http://millionwordman.blogspot.com/2019/06/on-inappropriate-content-in-games-and.html

    (edited for length, emphasis supplied by me):


    So, there was a...
  81. (emphasis supplied) So, to refresh everyone's...

    (emphasis supplied)

    So, to refresh everyone's recollection ... the sentences were vacated AFTER the sentences were served. Up to thirteen years, in an adult facility, for a crime that was never...
  82. I mean, it's not that hard. Someone can always...

    I mean, it's not that hard.

    Someone can always start a lengthy post about how John Wick 3 is the greatest movie of all time, should win all the Oscars this year, should retroactively win all the...
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    My meta-comment about the thread is that the...

    My meta-comment about the thread is that the signal/noise ratio will always be low, because it will continue to get derailed, and people will end up circling around the same issues. To the extent you...
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    The amount of narration and in-character...

    The amount of narration and in-character monologue I can tolerate from other players = X.

    Should it be > X, then it is annoying, obnoxious, unnecessary, self-indulgent, and will likely make me...
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    You should see what happens when his FACE comes...

    You should see what happens when his FACE comes OFF.
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    My fourth level monk, with 5 attacks per 4...

    My fourth level monk, with 5 attacks per 4 rounds, LAUGHS at your concepts of nonsense.

    Combats with a fourth level monk in AD&D are similar to long road trips with small kids ...

    "Is it the...
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    "but trying to pin the problems of this thread on...

    "but trying to pin the problems of this thread on one thing seems limited."

    Is it, though? I didn't think I did say just one thing, and I think I did a pretty decent job going over the thread...
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    "Iíve had 18 straight whiskeys. I think it's a...

    "Iíve had 18 straight whiskeys. I think it's a record."

    Dylan Thomas.
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    https://media1.tenor.com/images/7cd27a31e096318d2d...

    https://media1.tenor.com/images/7cd27a31e096318d2d8227d0b6d3fca7/tenor.gif


    Just like Johnny, picking on poor Nic.
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    THAC0 is clearly preferable to BAB, for two...

    THAC0 is clearly preferable to BAB, for two reasons.

    One, it sounds cooler, and closer to the action of hitting. THAC0. It's an aptonym.

    Second, it is easier. As Morrus has repeatedly explained...
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    I mean .... can he even be rated properly by...

    I mean .... can he even be rated properly by mortal standards of thespianism?

    All the world's a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances,
    But...
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    The most important thing? The literary...

    The most important thing?

    The literary quality....... /ducks



    Seriously, there is no single most important thing for a DM; different DMs bring different skills to different tables, and the...
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    Counterpoint- the only thing incorrect with...

    Counterpoint-

    the only thing incorrect with that list, is that Nic Cage is rated too low.
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    So, let's see if we can understand the...

    So, let's see if we can understand the fundamental disconnect between the people on this thread again, using this post and the prior one by @Bedrockgames as the illustrative examples.

    Using this...
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    I saw JW3 yet again. Like a fine wine, it...

    I saw JW3 yet again.

    Like a fine wine, it improves with age.

    Based on this movie, I will now rank the 10 greatest thespians (English-speaking) of all time:

    1. Nic Cage

    2. Keanu Reeves
  96. This was not the point I (or anyone) made; just...

    This was not the point I (or anyone) made; just because you keep repeating the same thing doesn't make it more right. No one is arguing it's good because it's old. In other words, you don't get to...
  97. Alchemy Jug 26 Bag of Beans 15 Bag of Holding...

    Alchemy Jug 26
    Bag of Beans 15
    Bag of Holding 26
    Bag of Tricks 26
    Bowl of Commanding Water Elementals 18
    Brazier of Commanding Fire Elementals 18
    Broom of Flying 21
    Candle of Invocation 15...
  98. Here is the third definition: Metagaming is a...

    Here is the third definition:

    Metagaming is a major no-no in the world of D&D.

    The prefix meta- (from Greek for "after, beyond,") is notably used in metaphysics, a form of which is recored in...
  99. This is the worst take. Start with the basics;...

    This is the worst take.

    Start with the basics; as soon as you start comparing "Not being allowed to DM at a convention" with slavery and human sacrifice (?!) something has gone terribly wrong.
    ...
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    Are you surprised that the idea of literary...

    Are you surprised that the idea of literary quality is contentious and/or puzzling?

    You realize that you just defined literary quality and literary endeavor in terms of itself- watch:

    1. Fancy...
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