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  1. They had the original Braunstein stuff at GaryCon...

    They had the original Braunstein stuff at GaryCon and it seemed far more like LARP than anything else to me. LARP with props, which I think is just LARP.
  2. We never ran hirelings or henchmen until my...

    We never ran hirelings or henchmen until my current S&W game and usually ran one PC, one power gamed out, min maxed, "sure I rolled those stats..." PC each.

    But we didn't run though a lot of the...
  3. AD&D for us back in the 80's was 3-6 players. ...

    AD&D for us back in the 80's was 3-6 players. Though most modules were written for 6-10 PC. We just never had that many people to play.
  4. As a referee/DM I really don't differentiate...

    As a referee/DM I really don't differentiate between someone saying to me as if they are a PC and I'm the king, "Your grace, your honor and integrity are legendary thought your realm, as is your...
  5. Of course I assume the players are going to use...

    Of course I assume the players are going to use some of their own experience when they are playing this game. I don't expect them to do stuff they know is wrong and die. And no Rot grubs are not a...
  6. Is tokeplay how they do it in Mass since its been...

    Is tokeplay how they do it in Mass since its been legalized?
  7. I disagree. Rot Grubs are wonderful, but usually...

    I disagree. Rot Grubs are wonderful, but usually only get players when they get foolish. I had a PC trying to fish out a hobbit corpse from a pit trap. They lowered him on a rope and he tried to...
  8. Call it whatever you will, the terminology...

    Call it whatever you will, the terminology doesn't mean that much to me. Referee, GM, DM, largely interchangeable terms for the guy running the game. And I determine the results myself for so much...
  9. For the first question, oh yes. Very much so. ...

    For the first question, oh yes. Very much so. Its quite amusing to watch a higher level PC be afraid of a little spider with a save or die effect.

    When I first started playing 1e AD&D I...
  10. Even if I don't run a game with social mechanics...

    Even if I don't run a game with social mechanics I still factor in the PC charisma. And it also impacts hirelings and their loyalty.
  11. I'd say my job as a referee is to adjudicate...

    I'd say my job as a referee is to adjudicate between the scenario, call it fiction or imaginary world and those in it, and the players actions. The rules provide a framework for a lot of that but for...
  12. Oh I agree. IME the heavier the social...

    Oh I agree. IME the heavier the social interaction rules the more that part of the game becomes "I make a skill check!" rather than trying to roleplay it. Many don't agree and that is fine.
    ...
  13. As always, great work! So are you in for the...

    As always, great work!

    So are you in for the new DF kickstarter? Seems a bit expensive compared to the amount of stuff you get, very effects laden though.
  14. I don't know if anyone ever asked Gary this, but...

    I don't know if anyone ever asked Gary this, but did OD&D/1e not have all kinds of rules for social situations because he didn't think that was important, or because role playing non combat...
  15. Class levels and character roles make it easy for...

    Class levels and character roles make it easy for new players or casual players. I know some of my table has no interest in digging though a bunch of options to build a PC. They just go, "Well that...
  16. Thanks gents!

    Thanks gents!
  17. I haven't dug though 1e/2e in a a while, but I...

    I haven't dug though 1e/2e in a a while, but I know I'm going to use the Old World as it was in 1e, would that impact using 2e rules? I know they added in stuff about Wizard colleges and witch...
  18. I can see how it would be great for some no...

    I can see how it would be great for some no doubt.

    I appreciate all the info everyone!

    I just sent out an email to gage interest in a 1e, maybe 2e, TEW campaign after we take a pause from...
  19. So in D&D games do people actually encounter and...

    So in D&D games do people actually encounter and slaughter humanoid tribes that were just living a peaceful existence? I think every orc group I've ran into in D&D over the years was actively raiding...
  20. Do they have a pdf primer or anything? I didn't...

    Do they have a pdf primer or anything? I didn't see anything on their website.
  21. Some players love that. We have migrated back to...

    Some players love that. We have migrated back to rules light games, we are currently running an OD&D clone for example. I don't mind combat options but multiple combat conditions to keep track of...
  22. Violence is one of the fundamental elements of...

    Violence is one of the fundamental elements of the human experience I guess. And even our civilization is held together ultimately by the threat of violence. Its a basic part of life. Plus its...
  23. Yeah but that's not a good thing for my table. ...

    Yeah but that's not a good thing for my table. This edition looks like a pass. Tracking a bunch of conditions just isn't going to work for my players, well a nice chunk of them.

    Though I'm...
  24. Tracking multiple conditions is a red flag for my...

    Tracking multiple conditions is a red flag for my table right off the bat I must say. Can anyone flesh that out a bit?

    Flipped though it at the store and didn't care for the art style at all. ...
  25. Is the statement that it is "crunchier" than 2e...

    Is the statement that it is "crunchier" than 2e accurate? Heavier systems are a turn off for my group.
  26. That bad? I've thought of getting it, would love...

    That bad? I've thought of getting it, would love to run TEW one day, but I keep thinking I'd be better off just running 2e.
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    Why is he whining about losing a hand? He has...

    Why is he whining about losing a hand? He has another. :hmm:
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    Nic Cage is awful is so many ways. And not good...

    Nic Cage is awful is so many ways. And not good ways, just awful, awful ways.
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    that is a terrible list.

    that is a terrible list.
  30. He looks like a large chunk of gamers I've come...

    He looks like a large chunk of gamers I've come across.
  31. So you are saying this may not be the clear cut...

    So you are saying this may not be the clear cut case that the BBC presented it as? shocking!
  32. I don't Con much anymore but I've always...

    I don't Con much anymore but I've always preferred tourney style con gaming with Pre-gens to living games. Gives me a chance to play a strange PC, often one I don't normally play. The two tourney...
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    I have to say that I loved John Wick 3, I've only...

    I have to say that I loved John Wick 3, I've only seen a few flicks this year at the movies but it was the best of the year so far. Much better than Avengers.

    So much better action than in most...
  34. The only con I've been to in a long time was...

    The only con I've been to in a long time was GaryCon this year and there were definitely games that were listed as mature 18+ to play and stuff in the event listing about the game having adult...
  35. Reading threads like this just make me thankful...

    Reading threads like this just make me thankful that despite some real play style and focus issues with members of my long term group, I don't have any need to RPG with randoms at stores. At least...
  36. I thought about buying it, the 4e book, but I'm...

    I thought about buying it, the 4e book, but I'm not sure what it would do better than 2e if I ever decide to run a WH campaign.
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    I have a few local games shops but I'm not into...

    I have a few local games shops but I'm not into RPG with randoms but my wargaming group does meet at one. Game Nite in STL is a good store. A lot of product for RPG, mini gaming, and board games! ...
  38. Id love to run this but I honestly don't have the...

    Id love to run this but I honestly don't have the group for it.
  39. That reminds of my clueless player and how the...

    That reminds of my clueless player and how the other guys would make up a "hot sheet" for him with all his stuff, which in the end was just as confusing to him as the character sheet. :lol:
  40. One of my players often forgets how to roll...

    One of my players often forgets how to roll initiative, or what dice to use for pretty much any of this attacks. Between rounds his brain resets itself and he forgets basic game mechanics. I'd boot...
  41. Amazing!

    Amazing!
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    That was the equivalent of an old team up book...

    That was the equivalent of an old team up book event series with too many characters, poor writing, but very nice art. About 2 hours in I was thinking "I'm about ready to go..." And making Thor the...
  43. Met him at Gary Con and I won't lie it was an...

    Met him at Gary Con and I won't lie it was an incredible experience. He was talking about how they were so into the work they were doing on D&D and the like since they were fans of the game and...
  44. There is a limit on tickets, so its already...

    There is a limit on tickets, so its already capped. Its nearly max capacity for the venue based on what I saw this year. A lot of fun, and I have a room for next year but I'm not sure I'll be...
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    Sure, but for the most part I run my games like...

    Sure, but for the most part I run my games like it still 1979. Granted RA kicks it up a notch but we play adversarial high mortality rate campaigns.
  46. Save or Death and I go way back. We are tight...

    Save or Death and I go way back. We are tight and nothing will change that. I like that a 1HD monster in my game can kill a 15th level fighter with a single failed save. Poison is feared greatly...
  47. I roll in the open so I can watch the looks of...

    I roll in the open so I can watch the looks of horror and dismay on the players faces when I really hammer them with a crit or huge damage roll. When roll and I hear "Oh ****!" my heart fills with...
  48. Never said I was worried about anything.

    Never said I was worried about anything.
  49. i will say that the only thing I'd allow in my...

    i will say that the only thing I'd allow in my S&W game other than dice is chits. If they didn't have it in 1974 then its got no place!
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    This thread contains a poll. One of the players, not always the same one,...

    One of the players, not always the same one, writes an adventure log each session as they go though it. Then each week we re-read last week's entry to refresh memories. I don't add in what they...
  51. Honestly that is the first thing I thought. I...

    Honestly that is the first thing I thought. I have had friends assume we dress up and put on elf ears when playing D&D since it seems they see that a lot when they come across some random article or...
  52. I have a player that probably averages 6 on his...

    I have a player that probably averages 6 on his D20 rolls over the past 18 years. All kinds of different dice, my dice, his dice, anyone's dice. He is just cursed by the gods.
  53. I mostly use old school plastic dice that are...

    I mostly use old school plastic dice that are closing in on being round. I grabbed some new ones at GaryCon but they are too pristine for my tastes at this point. Being in that massive dice bag is...
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    so last night they were trying to haul some...

    so last night they were trying to haul some treasure out of Rappan Athuck, well an adjacent dungeon that connects to it. So they are heading out and they run into a random encounter, giant poisonous...
  55. Sure. Personally I use morale mechanics in...

    Sure.

    Personally I use morale mechanics in my games, 5e included, so as the fight goes more and more against said goblins the more morale checks they are making and the more likely it is they...
  56. Yeah, they went in though the main entrance...

    Yeah, they went in though the main entrance first. Well that party died via TPK later on, after a few early deaths. But they did it out in the graveyard outside via a bunch of ghouls. The new...
  57. I buy miniatures but unless I switch to a new...

    I buy miniatures but unless I switch to a new edition I don't see any new book purchases on the horizon. Maybe more adventures down the line once they are finally defeated by Rappan Athuck but even...
  58. It seems that this idea of a combat should end at...

    It seems that this idea of a combat should end at this cinematic point is fire for some games, but games were management of resources is an issue I can't see it being useful. Losing those 4 hp on...
  59. Yeah not a fan of the expendable familiar idea. ...

    Yeah not a fan of the expendable familiar idea. I liked them a lot more in older editions where you were bound to that beast, got advantage but if it dies its not pleasant.
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    I always tell my players who want to put a AOE...

    I always tell my players who want to put a AOE spell in the middle of a rolling combat that imagine the rest of us are in a big fist fight and you have the great idea to start chucking grenades into...
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    My S&W game fires back up tonight so the chance...

    My S&W game fires back up tonight so the chance for kills is high. Fairly of course, I'm an impartial referee. But I only allow myself a shot if I get a kill so hopefully my dice are as thirsty as...
  62. We always mark north on the maps. Easier that...

    We always mark north on the maps. Easier that way.
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    Exactly. As a referee I’m just reacting to what...

    Exactly. As a referee I’m just reacting to what the players are doing based on the environment I’ve presented to them. Stab the guy with the riddle instead of parlay? Either way is fine with me.
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    I just tell them to roll up a new L3 PC in my...

    I just tell them to roll up a new L3 PC in my current campaign and figure out how to slot that PC in. If they can afford to raise that one then its up to the party to get them back somwhere there is...
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    Whatever they put out I'm sure I'll catch it when...

    Whatever they put out I'm sure I'll catch it when it hits the net. There is zero chance of it ever resembling a game of D&D I've played so it will just be another fantasy flick with D&D IP, so...
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    Unless the movie has the leads loot a dead...

    Unless the movie has the leads loot a dead comrade then use his body to wedge open a door its just another generic fantasy flick to me.
  67. When I pick up my wargaming magazines each month...

    When I pick up my wargaming magazines each month I always lament there isn't a print RPG mag to throw my money at. the UK has at least 3 major wargaming mags but no RPG mags out there?

    So I...
  68. Not really. When I ran OotA they had three...

    Not really. When I ran OotA they had three encounters with Demon Lords.

    1. Grazzt - the party was 7th level ish at the time I believe. Party of 6. They nearly fought him to a standstill. He...
  69. yeah I'm painting up a force of Hospitallars from...

    yeah I'm painting up a force of Hospitallars from Crusader. True 28mm.
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    Gamma World?

    Gamma World?
  71. One artsy and more purely functional would be...

    One artsy and more purely functional would be great.
  72. I find the black and white location maps, nice...

    I find the black and white location maps, nice and clean without art textures under and all that jazz, to be far more useful in play myself. Or blue maps. For a dungeon map I don't need a lot of art...
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    Depends on the settlement. There are no half...

    Depends on the settlement. There are no half orcs in my current game but in other games it would depend and you could expect to pay more unless you made friends with people. If your 1/2O goes to a...
  74. Hit them with that last session too! They found...

    Hit them with that last session too! They found a pit trap with a dessicated hobbit down in it. So they take the karate man, as he calls himself, and after tying him off lower him down to get the...
  75. I can't take credit for the dungeon, other than...

    I can't take credit for the dungeon, other than making the gas explosive. That was in Rappan Athuck so it was probably Bill Webb.

    When running stirges even with miniatures I always have them...
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    This thread contains a poll. No, no desire to watch people play video or...

    No, no desire to watch people play video or tabletop games. I barely watch pro sports anymore.
  77. In that regard I was so angry that I didn't have...

    In that regard I was so angry that I didn't have a straw sucking sound effect ready to go, that will not happen again.
  78. You have to realize that to a large portion of...

    You have to realize that to a large portion of the modern left anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a Nazi. Just look at social media when even mainstream Jewish conservatives are labeled as nazis.
    ...
  79. Stirges have cemented themselves as my favorite D&D monsters at this point...

    Just so many amazing memories of stirge fights. Mostly related to other party members trying to hack them off others. Again last night they have a classic in my S&W game.

    So they come across a...
  80. I was kind of joking there. though if you were...

    I was kind of joking there. though if you were taking it out to the logical extreme killing orclings before they can become full sized evil pig nosed brutes you are really just making your job...
  81. It more I don't care if the someone online has...

    It more I don't care if the someone online has an issue as at our table orcs are just evil orcs. Having 1-2 HD demons swarming around the Prime material plane with the same frequency doesn't work...
  82. Now watch, D&D playing will spike among Klan...

    Now watch, D&D playing will spike among Klan members! :rant:
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    Part of me would love to run a Hackmaster 5e...

    Part of me would love to run a Hackmaster 5e game. But I know my group would collapse under its complexity. We will see how Mutant Crawl Classics goes when I get a chance.
  84. What are they trying to trick us into with this? ...

    What are they trying to trick us into with this? I'm suspicious.

    :hmm:
  85. You are very welcome! My players and I enjoy...

    You are very welcome!

    My players and I enjoy it and honestly nobody has ever mentioned how using elements of real world cultures, aka the concepts of shaman/witch doctors in primitive societies,...
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    3.x was pretty concise in theory but in play as...

    3.x was pretty concise in theory but in play as levels rose it became a mess of shifting mods to track. The game rapidly became a chore to run as it was really built with the idea that players were...
  87. I still use pig faced orcs that are Chaotic...

    I still use pig faced orcs that are Chaotic (really LE) and made in the image of Grummish. They lack the free will that was granted to the children of gods of good for the most part. Grummish hates...
  88. Isn't the new Age of Signmar actually listed as...

    Isn't the new Age of Signmar actually listed as 32mm now? When using 28mm 3d terrain these huge minis just don't work. At GaryCon I was playing Chainmail with 40mm figs and at first I had to make...
  89. I think the only edition of D&D I didn't see at...

    I think the only edition of D&D I didn't see at GaryCon was 4e. But I was neck deep in OD&D, B/X and AD&D.
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    Running a Swords and Wizardry campaign. Playing...

    Running a Swords and Wizardry campaign. Playing in an occasional 5e game that is on hiatus at the moment. One of the other guys may run a few sessions of The Fantasy Trip as well. Picked up Mutant...
  91. Exactly. For us the rules are secondary to...

    Exactly. For us the rules are secondary to generating the fun unless they are getting in the way. Or just fail to do what I want them to do for my current game. But for us 99% of the fun isn't based...
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    This thread contains a poll. I still run my S&W games in GH but honestly I'm...

    I still run my S&W games in GH but honestly I'm not really interested any any 5e update of the setting and honestly wouldn't buy it unless it had some drop dead gorgeous map that I need up on my...
  93. If I wasn't a jerk DM my players would replace me...

    If I wasn't a jerk DM my players would replace me with one who was.
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    Oh I don't mind the hero getting larger than life...

    Oh I don't mind the hero getting larger than life to a degree but I'm more referring to accurately modeling weapons and armor really. But swords are sexy and pole axes aint.

    Though one thing I...
  95. Miniature scale creep is out of control!!!!!

    Its madness!!!

    At this point is Reaper 32mm in all but name? The newer guys I've bought were so big they really don't fit in with real 28mm stuff. And my 25mm stuff is pretty much only useful...
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    I think a big reason why my group didn't grouse...

    I think a big reason why my group didn't grouse when I moved the system from more complex games ultimately Swords and Wizardry is that they don't mess with the game stuff outside game night for the...
  97. Yeah though I don't have the box. Also have a...

    Yeah though I don't have the box. Also have a scenario for it, Orc's Drift. You could tell the game was more about campaign type games than tourney gaming back then.
  98. I've got 2e but man that is sweet.

    I've got 2e but man that is sweet.
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    I would love a game that more accurately modeled...

    I would love a game that more accurately modeled medieval combat and weapons, and made combat full of mechanical options and choices...but every system like that I've tried was a chore to run and...
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    I've learned that complex rule system rarely add...

    I've learned that complex rule system rarely add to the fun at the table. Oh they often add to the fun away from the table for those who love build tweaking and such, but tons of options and the...
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