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  1. A subjective feel : Battle Ready makes creating ...

    A subjective feel : Battle Ready makes creating a fighter feel slightly different like a tax on something a fighter should just have has been lifted. It also acknowledges that initiative can involve...
  2. Arguably in 4e a Dex Fighter til Slayer came out...

    Arguably in 4e a Dex Fighter til Slayer came out was basically a Ranger/Rogue Roleplaying baggage ensued. (although very flexible baggage) with honorable mention to certain builds which have it...
  3. The following shows the XML for loading the...

    The following shows the XML for loading the Battle Ready class feature in to the offline Character Builder. And yup it works ;) it also takes a modification of the base class.

    <RulesElement name...
  4. I was considering some of this kind of...

    I was considering some of this kind of flexibility Modify Eldritch Knight

    Arcane Weaponmastery at level 3 when you chose this subclass you have begun to integrate you spellcraft with your weapon...
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    Establishing expectations has a value I suppose...

    Establishing expectations has a value I suppose even if you have to use the R word.
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    LOL Martial Maneuvers

    LOL Martial Maneuvers
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    Very much this

    Very much this
  8. Another ingredient to the mix which I didnt...

    Another ingredient to the mix which I didnt mention because it wasnt important at level 1 the Swordmage class had plenty of teleportation/blink magics Alex had a short range teleport attack once a...
  9. Okay So far Is this what we have From Eldritch...

    Okay So far Is this what we have

    From Eldritch Knight 3 Levels
    definitely has components which were basically just flavor in 4e - Weapon Bond to be specific.

    Savant: Smart Defense. 1 Level...
  10. That definitely has the magical defender angle in...

    That definitely has the magical defender angle in there.
  11. Examined this closer and wow.... that is...

    Examined this closer and wow.... that is definitely the right direction
  12. Ah thanks yes flavor is definitely more important...

    Ah thanks yes flavor is definitely more important in that regards.
  13. I find it kind of weird that mage armor is Dex...

    I find it kind of weird that mage armor is Dex bound....

    The battlemaster certainly has some cool bits to it. Their abilities aren't actually at will either.

    The white lotus riposte works...
  14. It is kind of a work around but for functionality...

    It is kind of a work around but for functionality sake and not exactly the right flavor, but Dex it would need to be


    I like that you gave level recommendations that deserves a thumbs up in...
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    Or perhaps its is a single arrow that returns to...

    Or perhaps its is a single arrow that returns to your bow knock or quiver after doing its deed.

    How common to make these things seem flavor oriented ie game world flavor.

    It might be very...
  16. I do not see Iron Defender working for this...

    I do not see Iron Defender working for this character so much... but its

    Battle ReadyWhen you reach 3rd level, your combat training and your experiments with magic and have paid off in two...
  17. Since I really like the flavor of Inspiring...

    Since I really like the flavor of Inspiring Leader how does it stack up in peoples opinions I have heard its borderline broken
  18. The opposite of Green Flame Blade in 4e...

    The opposite of Green Flame Blade in 4e interestingly and yes it was one of his abilities. Green Flame blade could affect any number of enemies adjacent to the one you hit though I called it splash...
  19. This speaks to the value of not forcing the choice

    This speaks to the value of not forcing the choice
  20. Someone called 5e feats more like Themes in 4e it...

    Someone called 5e feats more like Themes in 4e it made me blink a bit not mechanically similar at all but in context of what you just said I think is more about their story value, themes had a lot of...
  21. Not something I have read but that does count as...

    Not something I have read but that does count as homebrew to be honest. Though using level dipping style multi-classing is actually almost like the cost in some ways of 4e feats.
  22. Bladesinger has some ingredients the bladesong...

    Bladesinger has some ingredients the bladesong helps gets defense based on intelligence. (but might not be defender class without a fighting style to help maybe)

    Indeed I think the Paladin Smite...
  23. Intelligent Blademaster Swordmage from 4e, how might I build him for 5e.

    His name is Alek Cor'Daren (Shielding Aegis - an effective Defender - with some good multi-enemy effectiveness)

    He had a feat which allowed even his basic attacks (opportunity attacks and...
  24. A lot of feel and flavor is influenced by rules...

    A lot of feel and flavor is influenced by rules sometimes however it seems the opposite is true.

    The explicit sources and roles in 4e were really almost entirely flavor in most ways ... however...
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    I see something you need to integrate with...

    I see something you need to integrate with powers. You need a method to allow a big cool method to defeat the big bad without it being a fluke of chance -- we have a method already it's the nature of...
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    Runequest (Stormbringer) was how I figured out no...

    Runequest (Stormbringer) was how I figured out no D&D ever was trying for simulating anything but heroic fantasy RQ had vivid combat that made you involved in attacks and defenses the advancement...
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    Allow insight checks or similar to figure out...

    Allow insight checks or similar to figure out what the capability of the adversaries are maybe add that effect into certain utility powers.
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    It generally doesnt in 4e but they didnt lock...

    It generally doesnt in 4e but they didnt lock down out of turn actions
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    The warlord whose primary context is often for...

    The warlord whose primary context is often for team work is very off turn as well to me the highly limited off turn action basically undermines that.

    I do like 5e movement system its pretty sweet.
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    I feel it makes the artificiality of turn based...

    I feel it makes the artificiality of turn based combat more obvious to me... in 1e action was planned but simultaneous. (relying on the DM to merge them)
  31. They had in my opinion the best flavor text /...

    They had in my opinion the best flavor text / class descriptions of any edition it's not my favorite edition but I can appreciate things from multiple ones.

    I think I can say terminology is...
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    you forgot the quotes "meaningful" .... because...

    you forgot the quotes "meaningful" .... because who rolled highest initiative is to me not very meaningful
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    Fast and Anti-climactic do just as much. Fast...

    Fast and Anti-climactic do just as much.
    Fast can also be just boring with mostly bags of hit points
    Fast is also anti-interesting choices for players.
  34. When you have 3,724 feats Still using...

    When you have 3,724 feats




    Still using Trumpish math is not impressive.
  35. Not convinced that it worked.

    Not convinced that it worked.
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    A recent thread about Healer being too strong and...

    A recent thread about Healer being too strong and Durable being too weak has me wanting to bump this thread for more breadth.
  37. Giving more is almost always better than Nerfing...

    Giving more is almost always better than Nerfing ... The flavors of those are obviously the same.
  38. Bad is different than trap though... trap is...

    Bad is different than trap though... trap is where something seems like it might be alright or has very compelling flavor AND is poor.

    Overly powerful is a form of Bad feat just as not so useful...
  39. Really I have seen Umbrum warning people in the...

    Really I have seen Umbrum warning people in the last several days.... and it must be "impossible" someone has had more than one account ?
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    Many of a themes effects were just power...

    Many of a themes effects were just power swaps.... not power upgrades but they might be represented in 5e as a type of 5e feat.

    Paragon paths might be a 5e feat as would Epic Destiny.

    Not sure...
  41. The character class descriptions were for me...

    The character class descriptions were for me quite evocative
  42. I love that Elfcrusher still gets to have fun...

    I love that Elfcrusher still gets to have fun with his e-war...
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    I had an idea of using checks to enable maneuvers...

    I had an idea of using checks to enable maneuvers you forfeit an attack from your attack action to effectively have another superiority die for your next attack..... basically with the die as a...
  44. I found the game didnt do justice to Vances...

    I found the game didnt do justice to Vances flavor but reading Vance helped D&D feel a little better it was still the part of the system most often hacked back then.
    Not ironically my favorite...
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    If we were literally doing the holmes scene let...

    If we were literally doing the holmes scene let him combine maneuvers better in some fashion the success of one feeding into the next
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  47. The cosmology, very clearly and cleanly adaptable...

    The cosmology, very clearly and cleanly adaptable but also closer out of the box to classic fantasy, the fae wild in particular is gorgeously presented.

    So many things though interact with the...
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    I couldn't decide if this was Wisdom or...

    I couldn't decide if this was Wisdom or Intelligence secondary... decided intelligence as its so much about predicting and analysing but could be either.

    ...
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    Wis as being steady perceptive it reacts more but...

    Wis as being steady perceptive it reacts more but does so by being aware and it might take longer on its attack for some benefit? I think of Int as being quick predictive thinking instead of...
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    Fun idea all around!!!

    Fun idea all around!!!
  51. And he uses it in combat for? I mean in 4e the...

    And he uses it in combat for? I mean in 4e the answer would be quick thinking predictive defenses that avoid attacks including a significant 1/3 of saving throws (core combat elements)

    And this...
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    I do agree the higher levels are much more sane...

    I do agree the higher levels are much more sane than in other versions of the game and with better balance. The paragon paths and epic destinies also allow player influence and investment in the...
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    I never understood this one - We have done that...

    I never understood this one - We have done that in many versions of D&D why did it magically become impossible ... because combat was actually interesting instead of beating on bags of boring hit...
  54. I definitely like that 5e made a dex based...

    I definitely like that 5e made a dex based fighter a standard thing although in 4e I would use a Rogue (lots of dangerous ripostes etc) or Ranger class for that.

    Still bet your fighter has Int...
  55. Not sure how that relates to an Int encouraged...

    Not sure how that relates to an Int encouraged fighter? Unless you think it could be readily reflavored in some fashion?

    I am actually thinking justifying a decent secondary Intelligence is the...
  56. A rogue bloodying enemies ought to be fairly...

    A rogue bloodying enemies ought to be fairly frequent
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  57. The Shadowy Rogue build gets a fair share of...

    The Shadowy Rogue build gets a fair share of powers with Int riders and feats too.

    I made this one a big fan of Corellion with some feat selections and took Swashbuckler and some others to...
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    Using that technique is one of the features of my...

    Using that technique is one of the features of my 5e hacks... things like a Battle Ready class feature for fighters
    (to give them decent initiative even if they want a mental stat as secondary and...
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    Freeing up the flavor is perhaps the goal, ie my...

    Freeing up the flavor is perhaps the goal, ie my character uses predictive intellect and quick thinking for initiative.... his uses perceptual acuteness... and she physically reacts faster. Heroes...
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    That is a wicked amount of bonus might undermine...

    That is a wicked amount of bonus might undermine almost completely focus fire temptations
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    4e achieved closer to balanced stats I think (and...

    4e achieved closer to balanced stats I think (and it may have been a subtle goal not fully achieved) , yes Dex was a bit super but by enabling other attributes to steal from it... it became less of a...
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    Note this does not necessarily take complex...

    Note this does not necessarily take complex mechanics either... if you weren't attacked last round you gain a bonus this round (could be bonus damage if that is easier and you are playing to the...
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    I keep prodding him to fully develop HoML but I...

    I keep prodding him to fully develop HoML but I also hand him ideas that have him rewriting things every time he turns around so its partly my fault.
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    Don't worry you arent that predictable. Holmes...

    Don't worry you arent that predictable. Holmes was on my list (Ever since seeing the RDJ version demonstrate the predictive quick thinking intelligence used in combat) but I expected to see PB before...
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    And raise the dead at 8th... has always made me...

    And raise the dead at 8th... has always made me feel all the D&D deadliness was undermined
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    Yeh the Ease of DMing 4e is one of those hard to...

    Yeh the Ease of DMing 4e is one of those hard to over emphasize things. They did have some really good and interesting guidelines in the DMG and DMG2 (the latter is my second favorite D&D Book)
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    Did not realize you weren't aware that hit points...

    Did not realize you weren't aware that hit points started higher but didnt progress at anything like the rate they did in AD&D or even in 3e or 5e. (some people just fail to notice it especially...
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    I was being a bit facetious about other damage...

    I was being a bit facetious about other damage sources but basically using them as a measure is highly erratic and if you compare a superhero to a super villain attacks of course you do not see any...
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    Um ... are you kidding? In 1e - if you have...

    Um ... are you kidding?

    In 1e - if you have starting hit points at 5 which is normal for a guardsman then at 12th level and that becomes 58 you are approx 11 times as robust as you began.

    IN...
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    How else CAN you compare it? ALSO lets compare...

    How else CAN you compare it?
    ALSO lets compare advancement... The AD&D fighter you mention is 11 or more times as hard to kill as he was when he started at level 1.
    You never reach 11 times as...
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    Unless you were a spell caster... The...

    Unless you were a spell caster...

    The fighting mans hit points were actually pretty darn super heroic.
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    If I get reasonable details I will start a new...

    If I get reasonable details I will start a new thread - I remember there was a feat that contributed and his subclass or oath? and they were 3 levels higher.
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    I said what I meant.... keeping optimizations...

    I said what I meant.... keeping optimizations from creating things like instant party death spirals (per the anecdote), is to keep things from becoming not fun, it's not praying to a non D&D god or...
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    I prefer solid foundations for modding with...

    I prefer solid foundations for modding with instead of having to shore it up before building off of it.
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    blink blink... ok where is that Paul Bunyan one.

    blink blink... ok where is that Paul Bunyan one.
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    My son seemed to be able to accidentally optimize...

    My son seemed to be able to accidentally optimize a Paladin for his first character enough to defeat enemies which were designed for a full party several levels higher by himself ... which either...
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    Making the game mechanics so optimization has...

    Making the game mechanics so optimization has only a limited impact seems important for the sake of fun doesnt it?
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    which for me means it has responses just like a...

    which for me means it has responses just like a mind a simple one that can be tricked even easier.

    Those with fewer self preservation instincts can be covered by describing hit points / defenses...
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    Analyze the concept of mindless creature? even a...

    Analyze the concept of mindless creature? even a puppet has something pulling its strings ... is it programmed behavior how smart is the program, anything with motivations/goals or is controlled by...
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    Oh no I just think if one wanted a way to reduce...

    Oh no I just think if one wanted a way to reduce the dominance of focus fire... that kind of thing might help.
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    Then they got an upgrade in essentials ville.

    Then they got an upgrade in essentials ville.
  82. Battle Ready might also be a Warlord ability

    Battle Ready might also be a Warlord ability
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    Heck even ignoring hp oddities, attacks against...

    Heck even ignoring hp oddities, attacks against an enemy tend to disrupt their attacks against you... ie you might have better effective armor class against any enemy you are attacking. So someone...
  84. Almost thinking for a good defender it needs...

    Almost thinking for a good defender it needs something for its armor perhaps gaining this as an armor option w

    ... 106919
  85. An idea first considered with a 5e context ...

    An idea first considered with a 5e context

    Battle Ready (new class feature - in 4e delete Wary Fighter - add Instinctive Fighter for CON initiative)
    Many combatants are forced to react to a...
  86. OK a couple of thoughts one was expanding Combat...

    OK a couple of thoughts one was expanding Combat Agility to allow you to shift to exploit opportunity attacks options if they are in Dex Mod range not just if they are adjacent. And the other is a...
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    Yeah its not about being overpowered "exactly"...

    Yeah its not about being overpowered "exactly" there arent a bunch of things that explicitly induce surprise and I just think we need to be aware that it restricts what might be the broadest...
  88. Although the using intellect in place of Wisdom...

    Although the using intellect in place of Wisdom for powers seems like it might work mechanically in a broad sort of way... without as much baggage as Dex.

    Conceptually its a bit like predictive...
  89. Yeh but I am thinking those are mostly geared for...

    Yeh but I am thinking those are mostly geared for tempest builds two weapon requirements .... or maybe brawler? and have grapples around them? (well that is one handed of a sorts)



    Yes I was...
  90. I never did as the useless thief of AD&D was my...

    I never did as the useless thief of AD&D was my introduction to that archetype.
    Rogues are now fully fight worthy and so I can shift based on that... AND It is possible to do a smart rogue in 4e...
  91. Perhaps have Combat Accuity instead of Combat...

    Perhaps have Combat Accuity instead of Combat Agility? but looking at Dex powers they do not seem too prevalent do you have a nice high dex fighter build this converts? (Rangers yes)

    The tempest...
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    Someone was complaining that modern D&D...

    Someone was complaining that modern D&D undermines Strategic choices entirely and the advancing ease of preventing surprise seemed symptomatic of it. A warlord in 4e could get the party so it fairly...
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    Definitely some interesting thoughts there ...

    Definitely some interesting thoughts there

    +1s are probably not much needed in most contexts but there seems to be a call for +1 per tier type bonuses. (a bonus that is always on seems a...
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    yeh I like that concept really would have been...

    yeh I like that concept really would have been better even even without adjusting the feat scale.
  95. This thread contains a poll. only if well and thoroughly done I think it has...

    only if well and thoroughly done I think it has potential...
  96. And you know my opinion of making the Monk a...

    And you know my opinion of making the Monk a psionic class too...
    for anyone else I think making "the martial artist" class not martial
    was idiotic and undermined the premise of martial pushing...
  97. Swordmages did THAT better ;) Their magic is...

    Swordmages did THAT better ;)

    Their magic is part of their swordplay integrated with their magic not something pasted on where your magic is just like everyone else's and a selection of spells...
  98. The Intelligent Fighter , Thibault's Circle.

    5e is a million miles from doing anything like this... 4e tends to shunt smart fighter to being a Warlord or maybe a reflavored Swordmage (which is very much still an option) but i think there is a...
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    Nyah the original might have been a night druid...

    Nyah the original might have been a night druid though... this one was a blood Wright manipulating both blood and leaking her vampiric needs to the party
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    4e is a very Team Oriented Edition and the...

    4e is a very Team Oriented Edition and the Warlord is a very adaptable class which very much highlights it.
    I like how roles work to create a very team play system and I like how ability...
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