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  1. Mmm...I think you're making some assumptions...

    Mmm...I think you're making some assumptions about why other people do things.



    That seems...broad. Maybe you have access to data I don't, but I can only speak to the vanishingly small number...
  2. Ok, so we're using the terms very differently. ...

    Ok, so we're using the terms very differently. In your example of declaring "an intention to attack and kill an orc" the player has full agency, in my view, as long as he/she is able to attempt...
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    Give her the dragon slaying bow but then don't...

    Give her the dragon slaying bow but then don't ever have them encounter another dragon.

    Mwuhahahahahahahahaha!
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    Ah, right! Forgot about that. Good. Nice to...

    Ah, right! Forgot about that. Good. Nice to have an actual rule to support the most sensible interpretation.
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    Prone and Grappled

    How to interpret this?

    If a creature is grappled its movement is zero.

    If it is prone it must use half it's movement to stand up.

    If it is both prone and grappled, does it have to break the...
  6. Are you defining "player agency" to mean that...

    Are you defining "player agency" to mean that player actions can affect/change outcomes? If so, I think you're describing the inverse of railroading, but railroading and player agency are not...
  7. Here in the U.S. we still use standards, not...

    Here in the U.S. we still use standards, not metrics.
  8. I'm wary of the word "ratings" (even though I...

    I'm wary of the word "ratings" (even though I started using it instead of "metric") because I feel like there's an implicit "higher is better" assumption, and what I want to know is where games lie...
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    Well, since this has been necro'd... I would...

    Well, since this has been necro'd...

    I would have given elves a kind of "keen vision", that treats dim light as bright light so that they wouldn't have disadvantage on Perception checks relying on...
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    Metagame-Ethics: How can I exploit the alignment...

    Metagame-Ethics: How can I exploit the alignment system out-of-character to win the game?
  11. I thought of a (subjective) rating I'd like: how...

    I thought of a (subjective) rating I'd like: how easy it is to mix new and veteran characters on the same adventure. I think that says a lot about game design. In my search panel I'd like to be...
  12. That's specifically MMOs, not video games in...

    That's specifically MMOs, not video games in general.
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    One thing I really appreciate in games is the...

    One thing I really appreciate in games is the extent to which they support/tolerate mixed levels.
  14. Didn't you get the memo that everything wrong...

    Didn't you get the memo that everything wrong with tabletop gaming has to do with kids and video games?
  15. Minor thread necromancy... For those familiar...

    Minor thread necromancy...

    For those familiar with this adventure, 2 questions:

    1) I read the bit about iconic character "companions". Would that make this a good candidate for just two...
  16. Wait...D&D is middle ages? I must have missed...

    Wait...D&D is middle ages?

    I must have missed that memo.
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    I’m not choosing sides, but that seems to be an...

    I’m not choosing sides, but that seems to be an invitation to let you have the last word, and I’m guessing that’s not gonna happen...
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    I would be surprised if there's anything formal...

    I would be surprised if there's anything formal on paper (at least that's discoverable.) But I would be equally surprised if drill sergeants during time of warfare were not unofficially encouraged...
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    How are you doing it on 4x6? I was printing out...

    How are you doing it on 4x6? I was printing out the entire pages, and then throwing away most of it. Is there a simple and elegant way to move/combine the images to maximize layout efficiency?
    ...
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    My original source was my grandfather, describing...

    My original source was my grandfather, describing his training for WWII. However, this is the first thing that popped up for me on Google:...
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    I thought it was the other way around: the...

    I thought it was the other way around: the military puts a whole lotta effort into un-conditioning new recruits, so that they won't be all conflicted about it when the moment comes. And that this is...
  22. Oh, yeah, I meant the 2e KS. My bad.

    Oh, yeah, I meant the 2e KS. My bad.
  23. 5th edition. What I love is that it replaced 4th...

    5th edition. What I love is that it replaced 4th edition...
  24. Bear in mind I didn't (as the title of the thread...

    Bear in mind I didn't (as the title of the thread says) actually play it, and I had to go get it off the shelf and page through it to remember what the turn-offs were. In a nutshell it felt like you...
  25. The One Ring 1) Very flat power curve. There...

    The One Ring

    1) Very flat power curve. There are no levels, but veteran characters aren’t significantly (by RPG standards) more powerful than newly created characters. And yet there are lots of...
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    ??? Me either. Was somebody in this thread...

    ???

    Me either. Was somebody in this thread suggesting there's a connection?

    Makes me wonder if you actually understand the arguments in this thread, or in that other one that shall not be...
  27. Now that might be true.

    Now that might be true.
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    Faulkner's "The Unvanquished" is really about...

    Faulkner's "The Unvanquished" is really about exactly this question.
  29. Again, though, I'm not looking for an objective...

    Again, though, I'm not looking for an objective metric. 10 software engineers with sufficient experience and knowledge would be likely to give a given piece of source code a somewhat similar rating...
  30. That's quite a leap, and not even a remotely...

    That's quite a leap, and not even a remotely accurate conclusion. I asked the question whether rating games on their similarity (on various dimensions) to existing games would be a useful thing. I...
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    You have a point: an ethical dilemma is an...

    You have a point: an ethical dilemma is an ethical dilemma even if it is entirely imaginary. But when you discuss the trolley car problem in freshman philosophy you are, I assume, trying to imagine...
  32. I know you said "might", but...Dungeon World? ...

    I know you said "might", but...Dungeon World?

    Sure, some weapons have stats, but there's no list. And definitely no prices. You do damage based on your class, regardless of how you decide to...
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    This seems to contradict your other claims. If...

    This seems to contradict your other claims. If it's all just make-believe and it's all ok, then there's no moral dilemma.

    Now, there may be in-game consequences: if you kill the innocents your god...
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    So is there no violence in games that (for you)...

    So is there no violence in games that (for you) crosses the threshold into "not okay", even though it still isn't real?

    There is for me.
  35. See, I actually think that "rulings" are...or can...

    See, I actually think that "rulings" are...or can be...a good thing, and it's one of the things I'd like to know about a game. To what extent do the rules attempt to specify outcomes for every...
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    I, for one, find some RPG killing...

    I, for one, find some RPG killing unsettling/disturbing:
    - Torturing captives
    - Killing captives
    - Killing non-combatants/innocents
    - Sometimes even unnecessarily attacking intelligent...
  37. HERETIC!!! Ok, so I never actually played it,...

    HERETIC!!!

    Ok, so I never actually played it, either. But it was one of the few treasured tomes I kept when I thought I was quitting RPGs (ha!) and gave away almost my whole library.
  38. Right. You think that potentially triggering a...

    Right. You think that potentially triggering a rape survivor's PSTD is not as bad as telling somebody that he can't run games at public conventions anymore. That pretty much clarifies just how...
  39. 7th Sea Modiphius Conan

    7th Sea

    Modiphius Conan
  40. Ok, let's unpack this: why are you "very...

    Ok, let's unpack this: why are you "very concerned" about "real world rape"?

    I'm hoping it's because you recognize that it's traumatizing. One of the most traumatizing things that can happen to...
  41. Funny...but possible character permutations is on...

    Funny...but possible character permutations is on the right track of...something. At least, I would find that an interesting number. Better yet, a tree-like diagram showing the permutations. The...
  42. Mmm, I don't really care about...or at least I...

    Mmm, I don't really care about...or at least I wasn't referring to...organization, clarity of writing, index.

    I've backed games on Kickstarter because the description was awesome, or the genre is...
  43. I probably shouldn't have used the word "metric"...

    I probably shouldn't have used the word "metric" because it suggests something objective, whereas I'm imagining a value that's subjective, and/or maybe an aggregate/consensus value.

    But I do think...
  44. I wonder if there are two kinds of people, with...

    I wonder if there are two kinds of people, with the difference illustrated by the announcement of a new game:

    1) Those who will look at the available evidence and precedents and conclude that it's...
  45. In before "Salem witch trials!"

    In before "Salem witch trials!"
  46. What would be some good metics to evaluate RPG rules/systems?

    When an interesting sounding RPG comes along, I struggle to get a sense of what the rules are like. Reading reviews I get a good sense for the genre and mood, but what I really want to know is where...
  47. That's another sub-text from some of these...

    That's another sub-text from some of these people: "If people are feeling unwelcome/uncomfortable about being in the gaming community because of bad behavior, and they decide not to participate,...
  48. But you are also, sometimes subtly, downplaying...

    But you are also, sometimes subtly, downplaying the incident. It wasn't "in game rape". It was advertised for 'mature' audiences. The GM was just "clueless". Etc.

    I/we may be misinterpreting...
  49. Oh, well in that case we should just excuse the...

    Oh, well in that case we should just excuse the whole thing.

    Wait...what century is this?

    Oh, my bad, I was so fully immersed in my latest gaming session that I thought we were in the dark ages.
  50. Or tortles ALSO....

    Or tortles ALSO....
  51. What if the DM was being mind-controlled by an...

    What if the DM was being mind-controlled by an insidious yet unnamed regime for the purposes of sowing dissent for political reasons?

    Or what if the the DM wasn’t who we think it was, but his...
  52. Yeah I personally run games in a VM (well, I...

    Yeah I personally run games in a VM (well, I try...it doesn’t always work out) but I expect it’s a hurdle that loses the vast majority of the potential market.
  53. Suicide Kings...

    Suicide Kings

    That said, D&D is not WoW. I caveat most of my opinions here with "...but this is just the way I play; you do you." However, if you are having "bitter loot disputes" I would posit...
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    Just what we need: even more rogues using...

    Just what we need: even more rogues using rapiers.

    I have a better idea: your sneak attack damage die is equal to 12 minus your weapon die. So rapiers get d4's, short swords get d6's, and daggers...
  55. Good read.

    Good read.
  56. I think it's a mistake to ignore the Mac audience...

    I think it's a mistake to ignore the Mac audience on this one. There is a massive new audience playing 5e, far beyond the traditional gamer demographic that was overwhelmingly likely to own a PC.
  57. Maybe the same reason competitive rock climbing...

    Maybe the same reason competitive rock climbing is so terrible: some things just can't be formalized with strict rules.
  58. The guy already has two strikes: 1) Running that...

    The guy already has two strikes:
    1) Running that moronic scenario.
    2) Trying to weasel out of any responsibility.
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    This is cool. Interesting answers.

    This is cool. Interesting answers.
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    Melee Druid

    Melee Druid
  61. Yeah. I find the story...or at least the version...

    Yeah. I find the story...or at least the version of the story which seems most corroborated and probable...pretty disgusting and kind of unbelievable that anybody could still be that...
  62. I've been mutated. It's how I got my...

    I've been mutated. It's how I got my superpowers.

    Just sayin'.
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    There seems to be an assumption underlying this...

    There seems to be an assumption underlying this post...forgive me if I'm wrong...that somehow complex/crunchy games require a more sophisticated palette to be appreciated, and that players can be...
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    Pick one game...

    Imagine you get to join a campaign with an awesome GM with tons of experience in the game system being used. Like, maybe the author of the game. (Assuming, for the sake of argument, that said...
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    Yeah, and GURPS.

    Yeah, and GURPS.
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    I DM’d with paper minis this week for the first...

    I DM’d with paper minis this week for the first time and loved them. Printed at FedEx on 100# glossy for about a buck a page. Awesome.
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    Fixed! Thank you! This is pretty much the...

    Fixed! Thank you!



    This is pretty much the main reason I want to try it.
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    While true, the part I find disappointing (and I...

    While true, the part I find disappointing (and I suspect is behind others' disappointment) is that it's basically a weapon attack re-skinned as magic. For that reason I find cantrips that require a...
  69. And they generally ignore the opportunity costs...

    And they generally ignore the opportunity costs of doing so (e.g., higher level abilities you don't get when multiclassing).

    I mean, their entire focus is on dpr or nova or whatever, so I guess it...
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    For context, here's what this same person posted...

    For context, here's what this same person posted in the thread about the DM who got banned from a Con for running an adventure where the teenage PCs get drugged and gang raped:
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    I think this mostly applies to ranged rogues who...

    I think this mostly applies to ranged rogues who can't hide. Melee rogues generally/usually already get sneak attack, and if they miss they can try again with their offhand (which is sorta like...
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    So who benefits most from advantage? ...

    So who benefits most from advantage? Sharpshooter/GWM?
  73. I would think that we could get general agreement...

    I would think that we could get general agreement that there's a difference between playing a game where dice rolls represent "killing things" with swords...and going into the details of torture,...
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    No, I remember that part. What I can't remember...

    No, I remember that part. What I can't remember is whether a wizard throwing a dart had the same disappointed/bored tone I hear today when they say, "I guess I'll use Fire Bolt."

    What I would...
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    Interesting class synergies

    I had this thought in another thread (the one about "max sustained dpr") but didn't want to derail it.

    D&D is (usually) a game of cooperation between multiple characters, so I always find those...
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    I don't have the book on me. Maybe it's...

    I don't have the book on me. Maybe it's mentioned as a solution just in case the players have access to it. Doesn't necessarily mean it's provided in the book.

    I didn't take Ghosts of Saltmarsh...
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    Maybe it's because I never played casters but I...

    Maybe it's because I never played casters but I honestly can't remember; however I think I agree with @TwoSix who said that back then it was all exciting.
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    Now THERE'S an example of how nostalgia wears...

    Now THERE'S an example of how nostalgia wears rose-colored glasses: I read the above and couldn't help but smile fondly at the memories, even though you're right about the effects.
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    Actually, even though you said that jokingly,...

    Actually, even though you said that jokingly, it's still the same sort of thing, but in reverse: if "powers" are like giving spells to fighters, damage cantrips are like giving weapon attacks to...
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    Can you re-ask this question? Did you skip what?...

    Can you re-ask this question? Did you skip what? Is what a solution to what?
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    No, you should play The One Ring. ... Well,...

    No, you should play The One Ring.

    ...

    Well, YOU ASKED.
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    Does a “not ok” reduce the count by 1?

    Does a “not ok” reduce the count by 1?
  83. That could also be the name of your signature...

    That could also be the name of your signature martial arts move! Maybe it counts as a grapple.
  84. There's a "right" kind of group? That's...

    There's a "right" kind of group?

    That's almost...more disturbing.
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    This rocks! I haven't printed it yet, but I...

    This rocks!

    I haven't printed it yet, but I downloaded it and easily broke my image up into a paginated PDF. It takes some guesswork to get the scaling right, but the final result doesn't have to...
  86. I think that's a workable definition, even if we...

    I think that's a workable definition, even if we could find edge cases where it doesn't work.

    For example, I would not consider "the heroes learn about the ship signaling system" as the sort of...
  87. Fair point. ...AND I think there’s a...

    Fair point.

    ...AND I think there’s a difference between denigrating someone’s playstyle and calling them out for rhetorical tricks.

    But I could be gentler in doing so.
  88. I think you missed my point. The poster in...

    I think you missed my point.

    The poster in question seems like a DM I wouldn't enjoy. It's not the specific action he describes that's a problem, it's the attitude behind it. My advice is to not...
  89. What if he does it just because he thinks it...

    What if he does it just because he thinks it makes for an interesting plot twist?

    If the DM is the kind who likes to "punish" his players then that's a problem, but (as with metagaming) it's...
  90. "...and also roll a saving throw against that...

    "...and also roll a saving throw against that fireball for your equipment. Oh, right! You are carrying a small keg of gunpowder, aren't you....?"
  91. Some folks clearly have a much stricter...

    Some folks clearly have a much stricter definition of railroading than I do. Before you can call it a railroad the players have to be aware of, and actively refuse, the plot hook.

    If the players...
  92. And that's the irony, right? The house is...

    And that's the irony, right? The house is supposedly haunted, but then the heroes discover that it's just smugglers pretending it's haunted...but then they discover that it really is haunted!
    ...
  93. He's just making a parade-of-horribles argument....

    He's just making a parade-of-horribles argument. Whenever proponents of his style shift from "I just like it this way" to "the other way is wrong", the only way to defend that position as some kind...
  94. That's fine, but do you have to insult people who...

    That's fine, but do you have to insult people who play a different way? Can't you just say, "I like to play this way, and like to play with people who share the same preference?"

    Why do others...
  95. One problem I have with all of this is that you...

    One problem I have with all of this is that you are taking a personal preference...that not only you but also the people at your table strive to separate character knowledge from player...
  96. No, I was just referring to the fact that you...

    No, I was just referring to the fact that you called Int 8 "dumb" and Cha 8 "socially inept". Mathematically that should be "5% less smart than average" and "5% less charismatic than average".
    ...
  97. I wasn't referring just to you. Your post just...

    I wasn't referring just to you. Your post just brought this recurring pattern to mind. So, no, I wasn't saying that "you said" anything specific.
  98. How come there's no insistence that an 8 Str...

    How come there's no insistence that an 8 Str means that a character can barely stand? Lots of casters dump Str, but nobody seems to insist that this be portrayed a certain way. They take their -1...
  99. I might add something like mysterious creaking or...

    I might add something like mysterious creaking or footsteps, and then when the attic is explored they find a rope that runs from a weathervane to a device that makes the noises. Just to drive the...
  100. I think they're on an island, partying with...

    I think they're on an island, partying with rappers and supermodels.
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