I think the responses since my last post show quite clearly that some people still have views on Paladins that do not easily fit under the "whatever alignment" umbrella.
Actually, not that simple. Three main groups:
1) Want all alignment Paladins in the rules.
2) Want LG Paladins at their table, don't care if rules allow for others.
3) Want LG Paladins only in the book, strongly do not want rules to allow for others.
Pretty sure most people who "prefer the classic LG Paladin" are 2, not 3. Indeed I imagine 95%+ of D&D's playerbase is 1 or 2 (or close relations thereof).
I wouldn't be surprised if you are correct. And if so, WotC is right to publish a paladin(all) class. But that doesn't mean that it supports the remaining 5%.
Like I said, I'm to the point of no longer caring. If a player is so inflexible that even the presence of options causes distress, I'd quite honestly be happier for that player to find another hobby. We really don't need that level of onetruwayism in the hobby.
And here, again, is the problem. In this post, Hussar reframes the point of the other side as "inflexible" and "onetruwayism" - trying to claim the moral high ground instead of simply acknowledging a different point of view. And that's why I keep returning to this point.
Okay, so far we're on the same page. What is the rest of your Central Issue? I apologize for making you repeat yourself, but there's been a lot of back-and-forth, and I haven't followed nearly all of it.
That arguments saying "just make a paladin class that allows all alignments and everyone's happy" are incorrect. Everyone's not happy, because a class built to support all alignments does not fill the needs of players who want the LG-only paladin. Effectively it's saying "we took the paladin out of 4e and replaced it with the champion class". To some people, it's not the same class.
All I want is for, say, [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION], to say - "Yes. Take your class out of the game and replace it with my Champion class, because it's more inclusive" - instead of "my way should make you happy too, and you're being unreasonable for not seeing so".
Somewhat tangent: Is there a large amount of crossover between people who like LG-only paladins and people who have classes as recognized entities in the game world? There seems to be a similar thought process there.
I never thought of it that way, but I'll bet there's something to that.
PS Sorry if it seems I'm picking on Hussar, but his posts stand out to me more for some reason, so I tend to argue with him more.
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