5E Warlord Name Poll

Poll: Choose your Warlord Class name.

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    Warlord Name Poll

    Things have been a little tense throughout the Warlord threads, so maybe its time for a less contentious topic and one we can have a little fun with: the name of the Warlord class. This is a Warlord thread topic that hasnt had its own treatment for a while, and there have been a lot of comments made about the name of the Warlord class throughout these threads. Since were making/proposing a new Warlord Class, seems that this is as good a time as any to give it a new name (or at least get ideas/data/opinions on the name).

    Ive poured over the older threads about the class name, and scoured Wikipedia and thesauruss for name ideas.

    Heres what I have (below), with my commentary on each.* I boiled these potential names down to the ones I thought most likely to be accepted or most appropriate. I tried to judge names on the following criteria:

    -Is not exclusively/predominantly Military, but does not exclude Military.
    -Is not exclusively/predominantly Civilian, but does not exclude Civilian.
    -Does not specificallydenote Authority, but does denote Leadership.
    -Does not carry anyother exclusive connotation.
    -Sounds like a class name, and could stand on its own next to other class names.

    However, I have included some results in the poll that dont fulfill some of the above criteria because of tradition, or simply because of how they sound.

    *Editorial Caveat: All commentary is wholly my own opinion, and not a reflection of the Warlord staff.


    Warlord has a connotation of despotic evilness and illegitimate authority, but its the current name so its in the poll.

    Warduke similar to Warlord and has a nobility/class rank aspect, but sounds cool so its in the poll.

    Marshal has both a predominantly military connotation and a noble/class rank aspect, but its the name of the 3.5E class so its in the poll.

    Commander has a predominantly military connotation, and is a rank name, but is predominantly a positional title rather than rank, so I included it in the poll to be fair.

    Battle Master has a predominantly combat-only connotation, but its the name of the Warlord-ish, 5E Fighter Class Archetype so its in the poll.

    Decanus (decurio, decurion) technically a rank (Roman squad leader or leader of ten) but obscure enough to work and related to similar civil titles also a rare medieval title (military, civil, and church officials) etymological root of Dean (through Doyen).

    Facilis Latin root of Facilitator (a large part of what the class does facilitates tactics, strategy, and synergy for the group), and it sounds cool (semi-cool?).

    Coordinatus Latin root of Coordinator (similar reasoning as Facilis).

    Consul My personal favorite it has military connotation (Military Consul, War Consul) and Civil connotation (civil title and function), doesnt imply authority, and even fits an adventuring theme (Expeditionary Consul).

    Adjuvant/Adjutant From the Latin to help Adjuvant is also a term used as a pharmacological or immunological agent, much like a biological catalyst, to support other treatments or make things better.

    Caid/Qaid/Alcaide From Moorish Arabic for leader

    Docent From the Latin to teach usually a university title for professors, but I like the sound of the word and threw it in for added diversity in choices.

    Sardaukar Just a little joke.

    Concord Administrator Another joke.




    Rejected ideas:
    Captain (exclusively military, exclusivelya rank, exclusively noble, modern usage)
    Sergeant, Corporal, Lance Corporal (exclusively military, exclusively ranks, exclusively non-noble, too much modern usage)
    Dean (college connotation, church connotation, and sounds boring)
    Doyen (same as above, and sounds stupid when spoken Doh!)
    Chief (overly authoritative)
    Castelan, Provost, Chamberlain, Seneschal, Herald, Steward, Commissioner (all are too civil, denote administrators, and imply nobility or a noble servant)
    Commisar (too USSR)
    Legate (exclusively military, exclusively a rank, and too Star Trek Cardassian)
    Preator (military and civil, but denotes very high rank/class and authority)
    Archon (predominantly military, a rank, and a D&D race name)
    Caudillo (Spanish/Latin, literally Captain, and used pejoratively for Warlord and Dictator, in Spanish culture it has a very strong authoritative connotation)
    Condottieri (Spanish/Latin, literally Mercenary Captain or Mercenary Warlord)
    Chancellor (Hello Mr. Palpatine)
    Magistrate (Judge I Am the Law!)
    Primus (Prime In Charge too authoritative)
    Bashar/Burseg (exclusively military, exclusively a rank, too authoritative, too Dune)
    Director (too authoritative, too boring)
    Facilitator, Expediter, Coordinator,Adviser/Advisor, Moderator (too boring but have included the Latin root Facilis and Coordinatus in the poll)
    Counsellor (booooooooring)
    Consigliere (too Godfather)
    Ambassador, Emissary, Mediator, Delegate, Envoy (too much Diplomat and not enough strategy, tactics, and combat and too Noble)
    Master/Maester/Maesteri/Maestro (predominantly craft skill level, craft guild rank, or academic/musical)
    Headman/Hauptman (root of Captain and too authoritative)
    Proconsul (the Pro- makes it too authoritative)
    Shepherd (too religious, too bucolic, too Firefly)
    Synergist (too boring, and sounds like some kind of psychic)
    Armiger (exclusively military and noble)
    Sherriff (too noble, too law enforcement)
    Impetro/Impetrus (too authoritative Imperial)
    Adjunct (too subordinate, too Star Trek Borg - Seven of Nine, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix Zero-One)
    Prolucutor (the Pro- makes it too authoritative, sounds like the person is a professional talker, and is just too hard to say)
    Warden (too Ranger)
    Leader(zzzzzzzzzz)


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    Ugh. Why did you feel compelled to tag 50 people?
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    Why not Banneret?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remathilis View Post
    Why not Banneret?
    Yup, that was going to be my suggestion as well. The Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide offers "banneret" as a non-setting-specific name for the Purple Dragon Knight. It's a little obscure, but I think it works.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_banneret

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbwjm View Post
    On a side note; I'm fairly certain that Warduke was the name of the villain in some of the old DnD products. I remember having colouring books back when I was a kid with him in them.

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    I've long held that the correct term for the concept frequently called warlord or marshall is "Fighter".

    It's simply the "smart fighter" or "charismatic fighter" archetype. It's a bad idea because it silos away from the fighter abilities that should be part of the fighter's core idea. Every fighter eventually should reach a point when they are no longer just a grunt on the field, but a legitimate leader of men in battle. The concept of a warlord or marshal is simply a fighter that is especially good at that, even at low level. It should be a fighter subclass, plus a few feats available to enhance anyone that wants to take that 'battle leader' sort of role.

    Incidentally, I like 'Battle Leader', 'Captain', 'Commander', and 'Marshal'. To master battle is not the same as leading in one, or over others. Commander is the most appropriate modern analogue, but in the middle ages the word Captain would have been preferred as the term applied to the leader of any band of men and was much less of a formal rank. The retention of the usage is seen in the captain of a sports team, particular when the captain is elected or chosen rather than appointed. Marshall is fine as well, although it applies as much to the idea of bringing men to a battle than to leading them in it, it also applies to being the leader (hense the term 'Field Marshal'). Much more than 'Captain' though, I think Marshal implies rank. A leader of bandits could claim to be their captain, and would even be accepted as entitled to the title because it merely means leader and not a rank. I don't think the same idea is true of the word Marshal. A self-titled captain is still a captain. But a self-titled general is pretentious. So Commander and Captain are better than Marshal.
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    Yeah, I still haven't thought of or found a name I really like.

    Warlord I'm fine with just because that's already in use.

    Marshal I would be fine with if Martial wasn't already in use in the game (especially in 4e.)

    Commander I'm actually okay with even if its a bit bland.

    Warduke I've never considered before but I don't mind it.

    I've been trying to come up with a totally new word or reappropriated word or term for the concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remathilis View Post
    Why not Banneret?
    I didn't think of that at all - don't know how I missed it. Probably because I dismissed noble titles right from the start - didn't even consider them.

    It sounds good though. However, it does have a predominantly military and noble connotation, despite it also being a magisterial title of church controlled Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerWickett View Post
    Ugh. Why did you feel compelled to tag 50 people?
    Quote Originally Posted by cbwjm View Post
    Probably because we have all been involved in the warlord discussions to some degree.
    It's actually about 290 people, and cbwjm has it correct.
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