We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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MechaPilot

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Defeats the purpose of purchasing prepared material.

What is the purpose of purchasing adventures? Is it not to cut down on DM prep time by not forcing the DM to write and design the adventure? Do you still not reap a considerable time savings by simply altering the color, gender, or sexuality of one, two, or even a handful of characters as compared to having to design and write the whole adventure from scratch?
 

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Elf Witch

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Well, you've been polite, so I'll outline the problem as best I can. First, by "adopt alternative lifestyles," I meant in a fantasy game world society, not in reality, as that would be an absurd position (akin to saying that video games cause violent behavior, which isn't the case). No, I'm not saying the rules are going to "turn anybody [insert] here." Again, absurd.

This adoption snowballs into my own preferences, my game world, and my own acting ability at the table. For example, I'm incapable of role-playing a transgender person. Worse, I might buy an adventure and discover that the mayor of town X has been scripted as Y lifestyle so now I'm forced to play a lifestyle not only alien to me, but unsettling to me on a personal level... and if I "do it wrong" I cause offense. I've played for 35 years and sex is a topic generally and traditionally left on the sidelines which is where it belongs. Were I a professional Hollywood actor, I'd get to choose whether to "take the part." I likewise get to abstain from purchasing a game system which attempts to wheedle that into "my world."

It's up to you and your group to add those features if that's what you want, not a game system.



See above.

This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard. First of all no one is forcing you to play anything you have the same freedom as the people you are telling to just add the things they want to take out things you don't like. And there is no doing it wrong who is going to offended about what you do at your home game? If you are at a con game then just find another game that you feel more comfortable with or talk to the GM and see if they will change it for because you feel uncomfortable. And if you are running that game take it out.

You realize that transgener people play this game as well as gays so why should the game only cater to people like you that is pretty arrogant? They should be included as well. I am a straight white woman. I prefer to play female PCs. But as a DM I have played male characters, straight, gay and one transgender. I am certainly no elf, dwarf, orc, mind flayer but I play them. For years most NPCs in modules were straight males gay DMs found away to play them female DMs found away to play them. Now there is a little more diversity which is a good thing. I could see an issue if every NPC from here on out was trangender but that is not going to happen there will still be straight male NPCs.
 

AWizardInDallas

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You absolutely are! But it leaves the rest of us wondering if your preferences (which I'm sure none of us saw coming) are perhaps the actual driving force behind your staunch opposition to the notion that claims from women and minorities of harassment in the gaming community should be taken more seriously.

I'm primarily opposed to two things:

1. White. Male. Terrorist. That is literally in the title. Classification of an entire demographic as terrorists and default guilt by association.
2. False accusation and the associated abuse.

I've made that abundantly clear.
 

Taneras

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Except it's been shown to you that's not true -- via FBI stats which you then waved off as somehow not good enough. You've decided it's true, and that's all that matters, apparently.

FBI stats certainly support the young black males and crime connection, so you're still on the hook for that.

And I guess you glossed over my comment of the FBI report itself didn't you. Unless you think that "tree spiking" should be counted along side mass shootings and bombings, those FBI stats aren't an accurate representation.

One of those issues occurs in far-off lands where I've never travelled and have no plans to. One of those issues occurs in MY WORKPLACE. Which of those problems should I be expending energy to address?

Which house is which? This is a really easy question. I'm sorry the point in your comic is falling apart.


I'm not going to kid myself that the above argument will sway you in any way...

Thanks that's the first kind thing you've said to me so far, intelligent people don't find logical fallacies all that convincing. Google "Fallacy of relative privation" or the "not as bad as fallacy".
 

Dannager

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What is the purpose of purchasing adventures? Is it not to cut down on DM prep time by not forcing the DM to write and design the adventure? Do you still not reap a considerable time savings by simply altering the color, gender, or sexuality of one, two, or even a handful of characters as compared to having to design and write the whole adventure from scratch?

Yep. The real problem is something else entirely: he finds "alternative lifestyles" personally unsettling and doesn't want anything to do with anything that mentions them, and certainly doesn't want to support any company that supports those "alternative lifestyles". It isn't about the work, or the effort saved. It's about being disgusted by the gays.
 

Rygar

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Did you read the OP post? He said he read the blog and then asked people to comment on if they had experiences of harassment and he had around 3000 answers and that is what he was posting about. But hey deny the issue because you are upset over a title of one blog and ignore the bigger issue here.

Give me evidence there is a bigger issue here. A Tumblr blog has 0 credibility, any number of those 3000 answers can (and almost certainly include) shill accounts and/or are completely fabricated. Anyone familiar with Tumblr would realize that one shouldn't take any metrics from it or from anything linked to it. A Tumblr blog does not qualify as evidence of anything.
 

Elf Witch

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Social awkward or being a nerd/geek should never ever be an excuse for those actions!

But please understand that some of us have never observed that behavior in our gaming communities, game stores, or even local cons. I hope most of us are not these kinds of people, so it might be some quite alien concepts for a lot of gamers. Rationally I can recognize that nerdy gamers aren't some kind of exception to society, there are rapists, killers, and criminals among us. It just doesn't jive with the save place we view gaming and our personal experiences. Some people won't react to this rationally though and throw up denials and excuses.

I'm curious if this problem is prevalent in North America or is it also as prevalent (or better/worse) in Europe?

I am actually happy that so many have not observed it that is a good thing. Because I hope that means it is not happening all the time.

I don't know and it would be interesting to see what people who frequent events in Europe have to say about this.
 

Dannager

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I'm primarily opposed to two things:

I think we all know it runs a little deeper than that, now.

1. White. Male. Terrorist. That is literally in the title. Classification of an entire demographic as terrorists and default guilt by association.

It's not the author's fault that you didn't quite get the point. I'm white and male, and you don't see me assuming that he believes I'm a terrorist. So why do you believe he means you?

2. False accusation and the associated abuse.

Which we know isn't an issue, and if it becomes one we can deal with.
 

AWizardInDallas

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This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have heard. First of all no one is forcing you to play anything you have the same freedom as the people you are telling to just add the things they want to take out things you don't like. And there is no doing it wrong who is going to offended about what you do at your home game? If you are at a con game then just find another game that you feel more comfortable with or talk to the GM and see if they will change it for because you feel uncomfortable. And if you are running that game take it out.

You realize that transgener people play this game as well as gays so why should the game only cater to people like you that is pretty arrogant? They should be included as well. I am a straight white woman. I prefer to play female PCs. But as a DM I have played male characters, straight, gay and one transgender. I am certainly no elf, dwarf, orc, mind flayer but I play them. For years most NPCs in modules were straight males gay DMs found away to play them female DMs found away to play them. Now there is a little more diversity which is a good thing. I could see an issue if every NPC from here on out was trangender but that is not going to happen there will still be straight male NPCs.

I don't care what other people do. I was asked (politely) to elaborate. I did that. I'm entitled to my preferences, including choice of game system, and make no apologies. I use my dollars as my vote.
 

MechaPilot

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I'm primarily opposed to two things:

1. White. Male. Terrorist. That is literally in the title.

That is literally in the title of the material linked to by the OP, but not the title of this thread. However, at least in this thread, that material is tangential. That material has simply caused the OP to gather information and present his results here. That the material with a title that is offensive to you has been the impetus for a poster to begin a conversation should not poison the conversation.
 

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