Oh gawd no. That would be like having Pirate rules totally separate from every other setting- sure you could do it but what would be the point? And what would be next, Planescape without any connection to the Primes I suppose?
D&D 5E Mike Mearls on Settings
Oh gawd no. That would be like having Pirate rules totally separate from every other setting- sure you could do it but what would be the point? And what would be next, Planescape without any connection to the Primes I suppose?
Mercule
Adventurer
Yeah. Those might be okay. I'm starting to warm to them as something that might support Greyhawk the same way action points sort Eberron. It's still not all that's needed, any more than the UA Eberron was all that's needed for that setting.
While we're spitballing rules, you could also halve XP award for killing things and reinstate XP for treasure.
FWIW, I think the advancement in 5E is ridiculously fast. That's probably a good indicator that XP needs some sort of tweak for "old school" feel.
Dragonhelm
Knight of Solamnia
I think I misspoke.
Back in 3rd edition, I wrote an article called Creating Spelljammer For 3rd Edition. I proposed the idea that Spelljammer should be its own setting, as well as be a connection to other settings.
In the Shadows of the Spider Moon mini-game out in Dungeon #92/Polyhedron #151, written by Andy Collins, he took more of a swashbuckling approach. What I'm suggesting is keeping that approach as a main focus for Spelljammer. I do not mean that other settings can't have swashbuckling adventures. In fact, Mystara has elements that are ripe for swashbuckling adventures.
The Scythian
Explorer
The problem is that magic isn't replicating 19th and early 20th century technology in the Eberron setting. It's creating armies of mechanical men, rivety giant robots, and flying ships that look and feel like seagoing vessels. Combine that with the specific 19th century technologies that magic replicates as part of the setting (telegraphy, locomotives, and continual flame gaslights), and the setting starts to feel like a fantastical 19th century, which is why a lot of people read the setting as steampunk.
If you don't see it, that's fine. We can agree to disagree.
Those elements aren't necessarily associated with noir. I mean, putting aside "archaeological-focused universities" and "competing trade families," which aren't associated with noir at all, the elements you've listed are just elements of spy fiction and crime fiction. James Bond films contain many of those elements, but nobody would confuse them with noir. Meanwhile, Sunset Boulevard contains none of those elements, but nobody would mistake it for anything else.
Noir is notoriously difficult to define, and I am not going to attempt that here, but it's less about subject matter, and more a matter of tone, themes, and (of course) visual style. While it's possible that other materials hit closer to the mark, the Eberron materials I've seen don't even seem to make an attempt at noir.
Edwin Suijkerbuijk
Explorer
in a QnA on https://www.twitch.tv/explodingdice Mike made a few more remarks about campaign settings.
Basicly he siad that if they where to do a campaign setting it should be diferent enough to draw in people currently not playing DnD, and not just another option for existing players.
Basicly he siad that if they where to do a campaign setting it should be diferent enough to draw in people currently not playing DnD, and not just another option for existing players.
MackMcMacky
First Post
I agree that SpellJammer needs its own "universe". I see it as a space fantasy/space opera setting without the science. It needs a world (worlds system) where it is the primary focus. It can only be window dressing to other settings.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Potterverse 5e!
Magic the Gathering Multiverse...
cmad1977
Hero
My main problem with this approach is that it is intrinsically antithetical to the 5e focus on the history of DnD. Creating a new world would not have nearly the same attraction then Forgotten Realms or Ravenloft or heck even settings like Greyhawk.
My suggestion would be instead of creating a new "Spelljamming only" sphere to just base an adventure around the Rock of Braal that could be placed in any sphere.
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