5E On Past Tenses and Paladins

View Poll Results: What is the proper past tense of smite (in divine smite)?

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  • Smote.

    56 74.67%
  • Smited.

    4 5.33%
  • Smitten.

    1 1.33%
  • Smiting.

    0 0%
  • Smat.

    1 1.33%
  • Circumlocution (I used divine smite).

    4 5.33%
  • Doesn't matter. You shouldn't play a Paladin.

    4 5.33%
  • I don't answer polls unless they slander gnomes.

    5 6.67%
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    On Past Tenses and Paladins

    So while reading another thread about Paladins, I got to thinking about smiting. Because OF COURSE the Paladin in the party is going to be smiting, and OF COURSE that Paladin is going to be #humblebragging about the smiting- because he's a Paladin. After all, Paladins run on inflated charisma and smug.

    So the question is, how should the Paladin properly #humblebrag when recounting his tales of smiting yet another beast. You know, "Yada yada yada and then I used my Divine Smite* on Tiamat yada yada yada ..."

    I ask this for the following reasons-

    1. Because I'm a pedant.

    2. Because I wanted to get the opinion of a Fellowship of Pedants.

    3. Because I wanted to annoy people that play Paladins by correcting them.

    Anyway, I thought of the following variations (along with a poll!)-

    A. Smote.
    B. Smited.
    C. Smitten.
    D. Smiting.
    E. Smat.
    F. Circumlocution (In the past, I used divine smite on Tiamat, and it was awesome!).
    G. Doesn't matter. You shouldn't play a Paladin.



    *Because all stories involving Paladins necessarily involve divine smite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowkey13 View Post
    2. Because I wanted to get the opinion of a Fellowship of Pedants.
    A group of pedants is called an "actually."

    (I saw that on Twitter.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by iserith View Post
    A group of pedants is called an "actually."

    (I saw that on Twitter.)
    This thread was totally worth it just to see that.
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    Smote.

    Smitten is the past participle (and since it's smitten, smote is almost assuredly derived from Old English).

    Smiting is the present particple.

    EDIT: Adding that since smite undergoes an internal vowel change (ablaut) for the past tense that's another marker that smite is almost assuredly derived from Old English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guachi View Post
    Smote.

    Smitten is the past participle (and since it's smitten, smote is almost assuredly derived from Old English).

    Smiting is the present particple.

    EDIT: Adding that since smite undergoes an internal vowel change (ablaut) for the past tense that's another marker that smite is almost assuredly derived from Old English.
    Boooooo! Booo I say at this actual attempt at an English lesson. I didn't come here to learn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guachi View Post
    Smote.

    Smitten is the past participle (and since it's smitten, smote is almost assuredly derived from Old English).

    Smiting is the present particple.

    EDIT: Adding that since smite undergoes an internal vowel change (ablaut) for the past tense that's another marker that smite is almost assuredly derived from Old English.
    You might want to see this-

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...oted-smut-smit

    Not that I am too rigorous in finding out facts, inasmuch as I care deeply about tending the fires of my Paladin antipathy.

    "The dragon was smitten by the Palandin." HEY NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guachi View Post
    Smote.

    Smitten is the past participle (and since it's smitten, smote is almost assuredly derived from Old English).

    Smiting is the present particple.

    EDIT: Adding that since smite undergoes an internal vowel change (ablaut) for the past tense that's another marker that smite is almost assuredly derived from Old English.
    Thus, in complete sentences:

    Present: "I smite you."
    Present Participle: "I am smiting you."
    Past: "I smote you."
    Past Participle: "You have been smitten."
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    Seems to me there is a gap to be filled here.

    Suppose a fair damsel allures a paladin so that he falls in love with her. He declares that she is utterly divine. We could reasonably say that he is smitten. But what is the corresponding active verb? What has she done to him? Has she smited him? Or smitten him? Neither sounds quite right. Perhaps she has smoten him? No, that sounds wrong, too.

    This is an important question. Whole libraries of books of romantic twaddle are being held up half-finished for lack of a mot juste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldItalic View Post
    Seems to me there is a gap to be filled here.

    Suppose a fair damsel allures a paladin so that he falls in love with her. He declares that she is utterly divine. We could reasonably say that he is smitten. But what is the corresponding active verb? What has she done to him? Has she smited him? Or smitten him? Neither sounds quite right. Perhaps she has smoten him? No, that sounds wrong, too.

    This is an important question. Whole libraries of books of romantic twaddle are being held up half-finished for lack of a mot juste.
    Oh, the confusion. What if the fair damsel falls in love with the Paladin, as well?*

    She goes back to the townfolk and says, "I am smitten by the Paladin!"

    Should they react with outrage because he smote her?

    Oh my ...




    *This is a hypothetical. No actual fair damsels would fall in love with Paladin McPaladinface. Just roll with it.

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    Circumlocution. I hate using past participles I'm not sure about, so I'll try to avoid them whenever necessary. "I did smite" or "I used smite" are the basic structures I use when it comes up.

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