WOIN Helmets!

knikpiw · Oct 30, 2018

Quick question about helmets.
I take it that a helmets armor doesn't go up with increased quality otherwise they can become extremely Over-powered very quickly.

So, why ever get a helmet that is above standard quality?

Do battlesuits already have a helmet on them?

Small questions, big problems

Morrus · Oct 30, 2018

I always think helmets! deserve an exclamation mark!

Not every object does extra stuff at higher quality levels. A high quality compass still just points north, for example. But it will be a more valuable object. And if a check using the object is required (admittedly that's harder to imagine with a helmet than, say, a lockpick) then the equipment quality bonus applies to the dice pool.

knikpiw · Oct 30, 2018

Guess it's just the re-sale value then

Thanks

ToddBS · Nov 4, 2018

Morrus said:
A high quality compass still just points north

Surely a mastercraft compass would point to a much better place. A north above and beyond normal north. Norther than north.

knikpiw · Nov 4, 2018

Jack Sparrows compass....

David Applegate · Dec 12, 2018

ToddBS said:
Surely a mastercraft compass would point to a much better place. A north above and beyond normal north. Norther than north.

It might be magical and point to the passage between realms, Hyperborea, the land beyond the north winds.

easl · Dec 13, 2018

knikpiw said:
Guess it's just the re-sale value then

Well...not just that.
1. Higher quality items can hold upgrades. Those aren't specified for helms, but I could definitely see allowing them to include eliminating the defense and initiative penalties that some helm types start with.

2. An exceptional quality helm is required if you want to enchant it.

3. An exceptional quality black metal helm is required if you want to give it 2-3 enchantments.

....those are official. Now, a couple unofficial ideas...

4. Items have HP and soak for when someone attempts to destroy/damage them. While there's no explicit rules for damaging a helm, it seems very reasonable to me that higher quality construction could add HP, soak, or both.

5. On the more story-side, I could see a unique, famous, or obviously expensive helm reasonably contributing to REP roles in some cases. It's basically like carrying a giant flag saying you're a noble/badass/guy who was able to steal this from the famous badass owner.

David Applegate · Dec 13, 2018

easl said:
Well...not just that.
1. Higher quality items can hold upgrades. Those aren't specified for helms, but I could definitely see allowing them to include eliminating the defense and initiative penalties that some helm types start with.

2. An exceptional quality helm is required if you want to enchant it.

3. An exceptional quality black metal helm is required if you want to give it 2-3 enchantments.

....those are official. Now, a couple unofficial ideas...

4. Items have HP and soak for when someone attempts to destroy/damage them. While there's no explicit rules for damaging a helm, it seems very reasonable to me that higher quality construction could add HP, soak, or both.

5. On the more story-side, I could see a unique, famous, or obviously expensive helm reasonably contributing to REP roles in some cases. It's basically like carrying a giant flag saying you're a noble/badass/guy who was able to steal this from the famous badass owner.

If you treat your character as more than a throw away, then characters would have many motivations, such as quality long lasting protection and a means to transport wealth in secret, and also high quality items make good improvised weapons.

M3woods · Dec 13, 2018

4. Items have HP and soak for when someone attempts to destroy/damage them. While there's no explicit rules for damaging a helm, it seems very reasonable to me that higher quality construction could add HP, soak, or both.

Check pages 146-147 of O.L.D., 161-162 of N.O.W., and 179-181 of N.E.W.

WOIN Helmets!

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