RogueJK
It's not "Rouge"... That's makeup.
We're starting a new campaign at 3rd level, which will be going to roughly 15th level.
I'm playing a Half Elf spellthief character, and am planning to go with a mix of Arcane Trickster and Bladesinger. I'd like a bit more casting utility than a straight AT, so I'm planning to dip at least two levels into Bladesinger, and possibly as many as 5 levels.
The rest of the party is a Barbarian tank, Life Cleric healer, and Sorlock blaster. I will be the Face, Trapfinder, Striker, Scout, and Utility Caster. In combat, I'll sprinkle in control spells as needed, but mostly Sneak Attack with Booming Blade/Rapier/Disengage when melee is an option, and Hand Crossbow/Hide for ranged. (Bladesong ends if you use a two handed weapon, so no normal crossbows or bows.)
Stat breakdown is as follows:
S10
D18 (17+1 HE)
C16 (15+1 HE)
I16
W12
Ch15 (13+2 HE)
My dillema is deciding how to distribute my levels, specifically when during my progression to mix in the Bladesinger levels.
I don't want to dilute my levels too much and overly delay ASIs, so it looks like the best option would be to stick to groups of 4 or so levels.
One possibility is to start with straight AT for 4 and then add in the 2 to 5 levels of BS. That would mean starting as AT3 with Cunning Action, 2d6 Sneak Attack, and a few limited spells, but waiting until 5th level overall for access to rituals, and 6th overall for Bladesong. Plus I'd be stuck with only 1st level spells until 7th level overall, which is similar spell progression to a straight AT, albeight with a wider variety of cantrips and 1st level spells than a straight AT.
I could approach it from the other side, with 1 level of AT and then 5 levels of BS. That would mean starting at AT1/BS2, and having rituals and Bladesong from the start and access to 2nd/3rd level spells at approximately normal character level, but minimal Sneak Attack damage and having to wait for 7th level overall for Cunning Action, which I think would out too much if a cramp on my melee/ranged usefulness.
I could also split the difference, starting at something like AT2/BS1, followed by 2 more levels of AT, then 1-4 more levels of BS. That gets me rituals right off the bat at 3rd level overall, and only delays my ASIs by 1 level, but still delays Bladesong to 6th level and Level 2 spells until 7th level.
What are your thoughts? When would you suggest taking the Bladesinger levels?
And should I stick to just 2 levels of Bladesinger, or is it worth pushing Bladesinger up to 5 for 3rd level spells, even if they might not come online until 9th level overall or higher?
Thanks!
I'm playing a Half Elf spellthief character, and am planning to go with a mix of Arcane Trickster and Bladesinger. I'd like a bit more casting utility than a straight AT, so I'm planning to dip at least two levels into Bladesinger, and possibly as many as 5 levels.
The rest of the party is a Barbarian tank, Life Cleric healer, and Sorlock blaster. I will be the Face, Trapfinder, Striker, Scout, and Utility Caster. In combat, I'll sprinkle in control spells as needed, but mostly Sneak Attack with Booming Blade/Rapier/Disengage when melee is an option, and Hand Crossbow/Hide for ranged. (Bladesong ends if you use a two handed weapon, so no normal crossbows or bows.)
Stat breakdown is as follows:
S10
D18 (17+1 HE)
C16 (15+1 HE)
I16
W12
Ch15 (13+2 HE)
My dillema is deciding how to distribute my levels, specifically when during my progression to mix in the Bladesinger levels.
I don't want to dilute my levels too much and overly delay ASIs, so it looks like the best option would be to stick to groups of 4 or so levels.
One possibility is to start with straight AT for 4 and then add in the 2 to 5 levels of BS. That would mean starting as AT3 with Cunning Action, 2d6 Sneak Attack, and a few limited spells, but waiting until 5th level overall for access to rituals, and 6th overall for Bladesong. Plus I'd be stuck with only 1st level spells until 7th level overall, which is similar spell progression to a straight AT, albeight with a wider variety of cantrips and 1st level spells than a straight AT.
I could approach it from the other side, with 1 level of AT and then 5 levels of BS. That would mean starting at AT1/BS2, and having rituals and Bladesong from the start and access to 2nd/3rd level spells at approximately normal character level, but minimal Sneak Attack damage and having to wait for 7th level overall for Cunning Action, which I think would out too much if a cramp on my melee/ranged usefulness.
I could also split the difference, starting at something like AT2/BS1, followed by 2 more levels of AT, then 1-4 more levels of BS. That gets me rituals right off the bat at 3rd level overall, and only delays my ASIs by 1 level, but still delays Bladesong to 6th level and Level 2 spells until 7th level.
What are your thoughts? When would you suggest taking the Bladesinger levels?
And should I stick to just 2 levels of Bladesinger, or is it worth pushing Bladesinger up to 5 for 3rd level spells, even if they might not come online until 9th level overall or higher?
Thanks!