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    I admit it, I killed the megaverse!
    And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
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    I think one of the things with some of the firearm stats such as the Modern Firearms in the DMG is that they took those values right from D20 Modern, where all firearms had to do 2 die of damage because of feats and abilities such as Double Tap, Burst Fire and so on that added damage die, also in d20 Modern you did not add stat bonuses to ranged attacks. Of course D20 Modern used other rules such as changing how damage worked, and getting AC bonuses by class level. In the context of D20 Modern itself it was certainly balanced, and much like many video games, you don't encounter elite military soldiers as enemies at the beginning of a campaign.

    In many cases I don't think all guns are more powerful than melee weapons, one swing of a Greatsword is probably going to out damage one .22 caliber round.

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    I think it's about reinforcing a particular view of fantasy that came into sharp focus in the 70s and early 80s. The inspiration for D&D might have been the weird fiction of the pulp era through the psychedelic fantasy of the 60s, but by the time D&D went "viral" traditional fantasy by way of Tolkien was in vogue. You had all kinds of imitators from Brooks to Eddings and then TSR added their own Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms fiction. It was self reinforcing and every time a computer game like Ultima or the Bards Tale came out things went a little more toward safe, uncomplicated medieval fantasy. I don't know whether D&D was responsible but it was certainly part of the same movement to keep fantasy in a Disney theme park version of 15th century western Europe.
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    tangentially related, but I always hate when an article about D&D is like "Gary Gygax made a Lord of the Rings game!" like okay there's some superficial similarities, but clearly you didn't do your research. this isn't even limited to mainstream media either, I'll see geek/nerd oriented news do this too, it's annoying.

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    I don't get why so many still think the d20 system can't do sci-fi or science fantasy... If we look at 5e alone there is:
    my personal issue with d20 being used for sci-fi is that I always felt like class based systems don't lend themselves very well to making sci-fi characters. like D&D kinda cheated when it made classes since it borrowed from very well known fantasy characters, but also sci-fi characters just feel too open ended to be stuffed into a class. the original Star Wars RPG felt cool in this regard, unlike every iteration after it where it was like "okay you want to be a Jedi/pilot, but you're only gonna be RLY GOOD at one of those things for the first few sessions".

    and personally it probably also doesn't help that during the 3.5 era it seemed like because the SRD was free to use everyone thought it was the best choice for their RPG adaptation of their favorite show or franchise; for every good d20 adaptation there's a bunch of really bad ones :/

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    I'm surprised that the only mention of cross genre RPGs is Rifts when both GURPS and Hero System predate Rifts by 4 years or 1 year.

    As for RPGing in the Metaverse I just don't like the d20 system in modern settings. I prefer point based games (Hero or GURPS) or something else instead of leveling up.

    I like games that where someone pointing a crossbow or gun or laser at you should get your attention as you will likely die. At some point d20 heroes are hard enough to kill unless you escalate their opponents.
    Modern systems should also reflect the power of money to buy equipment that will help you solve your problems. There's a reason Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne are superheroes when they have that much money to solve some of their problems.

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    It was me.
    I killed the SciFi in Fantasy.
    Same with Fantasy in SciFi. Never liked Star Wars. Too much Fantasy.
    Never liked it, not in the 80s, not now, not inbetween.
    Don't know why.
    But I had to do it.
    Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerers Apprentice View Post
    I admit it, I killed the megaverse!
    Liar!
    Or was it the other one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerers Apprentice View Post
    I admit it, I killed the megaverse!
    You are Keyser S÷ze?

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    What I like most about these articles is that I often get ideas of books to read. I loved continuing the adventures of Conan via de Camp's novels and now I'm going to have a read of his science fiction.
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    There is a British company that unified classical religious iconography, daemons, warp travel, swords, bolters, power-armour, and even magical psi powers, all in a single game world. Blam! Dakka, dakka!!


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