The King that Crawls

ZenBear · Apr 22, 2019

Does anyone know if Torog is still canonical for 5th Edition? I name-dropped him in my campaign for the Halloween session, where a Chain Devil chased my party of 4th level characters through the Underdark when they happened across it during its pilgrimage down The King's Highway. I'm curious if I could add him in a story I'm writing that I intend to be as canonically accurate as I can make it.

Paul Farquhar · Apr 22, 2019

5e doesn't distinguish between "canon" and "non-canon". If you want Torog in your game then have Torog in your game.

S'mon · Apr 22, 2019

He's canon for Dawn War Pantheon page 10 5e DMG.

bedir than · Apr 22, 2019

Paul Farquhar said:
5e doesn't distinguish between "canon" and "non-canon". If you want Torog in your game then have Torog in your game.

The real canon is the canon we invent along the way

MechaTarrasque · Apr 22, 2019

Mike Mearls made him a demon lord for his homebrew 5e Nethir Vale game. If your concern was bringing him to FR without conflicting with the setting's canon, that is what I would suggest ("natural" portals in the Underdark that bring you to his layer of the Abyss, which just looks like the Underdark). Even in as chronicled a setting as FR, there must be a bunch of big demons who haven't been named (it's a big universe, and they haven't turned their attention to the Realms yet).

That would be consistent with what they did with the Raven Queen and I think I saw something about Vecna being an archlich.....

UnknownDyson · Apr 22, 2019

If you're asking if Torog is a Forgotten Realms deity, than the answer to that question is no.

the Jester · Apr 22, 2019

He's absolutely in my campaign, complete with homebrew wrackspawn conversions.

MechaTarrasque · Apr 22, 2019

Stat blocks for Mike Mearls Wrack Spawn and Lash Fiend can be found at: https://www.sageadvice.eu/2018/01/02/two-new-creatures-from-mike-mearls/

SkidAce · Apr 22, 2019

MechaTarrasque said:
Mike Mearls made him a demon lord for his homebrew 5e Nethir Vale game...

...That would be consistent with what they did with the Raven Queen and I think I saw something about Vecna being an archlich.....

I am tired of Mike Mearls et al spying on my home campaign and stealing all my good ideas.

dave2008 · Apr 23, 2019

ZenBear said:
Does anyone know if Torog is still canonical for 5th Edition? I name-dropped him in my campaign for the Halloween session, where a Chain Devil chased my party of 4th level characters through the Underdark when they happened across it during its pilgrimage down The King's Highway. I'm curious if I could add him in a story I'm writing that I intend to be as canonically accurate as I can make it.

There is not a single D&D "canon." Are you talking about Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, Dark Sun, Eberron, Dragonlnace, Dawn War/Nentir Vale, etc. ?

As far as I know Torog was introduced in the 4e Dawn War / Nentir Vale setting. In 5e he is still listed as a god in the Dawn War setting, but there has been no official support for that setting other than mentioning it in the DMG. So I guess that means he is still canon in the Dawn War setting, but there is nothing official in 5e about him other than that.