5E The Charismatic Fighting "Hero" - Which Core Class does it Best?

Poll: Which Class does the "Warrior Hero" Archetype best?

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    The Charismatic Fighting "Hero" - Which Core Class does it Best?

    It is a very common fantasy troupe. The warrior hero on a quest. His charisma and drive draw in fellow travelers, and eventually he is leading a small group against the big bad.

    This has often been an awkward troupe in dnd terms for as long as charisma has been a dump stat for fighters. And yet in 5e there are some ways to make the charismatic fighter that inspires and is the true leader of the team work mechanically.

    In this poll, we want to judge which core class (no splats) with standard rules (no feats, magic items, etc) pulls off the sterotype best at 6th level.

    Ultimately the judgement is based on 3 criteria:

    1) Fighting power. The hero is still a warrior at heart. While he may be the charismatic leader, he still kicks butt when the time comes.

    2) Charisma as a mechanical asset. Its easy to say "get persuasion + charisma = win", but we are looking at what classes actually incorporate charisma into the class, as opposed to just window dressing.

    3) Ability to inspire and improve a party. Again, we want to show some mechanics as to why a group follow this person. How does this leader "lead" using the mechanics of the game?


    I've boiled the list down to 3 main choices. But of course I suspect people will argue that, so I've left an other option for your thoughts.

    1) Battlemaster Fighter: The fighter's fighter, he boasts strong direct fighting power and the most straightforward flavor representation of the "warrior hero". Through the use of the "Commander's Strike" and most importantly "Rally" maneuvers, he uses his charisma to guide and inspire his allies on the battlefield.

    2) Paladin: The shining knight. Also boosting a strong fighting power, the paladin protective aura literally puts his charismatic light as a shield for his fellow. The paladin also boasts spells that boosts his fellows fighting power.

    3) Valor Bard: While the valor bard doesn't have the fighting power of the others, the class possesses an incredible ability to inspire others. Whether its a skill check or an attack roll, the valor bard lets his team operate beyond their limits. And when that is not enough, he brings powerful buff spells to the arena.


    So which class does it best? Which is the best representation of the archetypical "warrior hero"?
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    Sorry for the non-fitting answer:
    Any good role-player with a melee-capable PC with some decent Charisma.
    No matter if barbarian or swashbuckler or bladesinger or your examples.
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    What about the Purple Dragon Knight from SCAG? Seems like that was an attempt to fill this niche as well, though I don't have an opinion on how good a job it does because I've never seen one played.

    EDIT: Oops, I missed the part that said "no splats." Sorry about that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoungr View Post
    What about the Purple Dragon Knight from SCAG?
    To be fair, it's easy to forget that one.

    Seems like that was an attempt to fill this niche as well, though I don't have an opinion on how good a job it does because I've never seen one played.
    Nor have I, but then I haven't seen a lot of character turnover (I haven't seen a barbarian yet, either).

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    I know which one it isn't.
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    In before Lowkey hates on the paladin!

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    Danggit. Man, your hate is on a hair trigger.
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    I would have put Rogue (Swashbuckler), Hexblade and College of Swords ahead of Battlemaster. I have never seen a charismatic battlemaster. Can I give battlemaster a negative vote?

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    Assassin Rogue/Gloomstalker Ranger multiclass.

    The whole "I shall save thee!" knight in shining armor types are chumps. But they're useful for finding and trigger traps, I guess.

    Maybe the answer to this question depends on how you define "heroic"...

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    A reminder this is core books only, thats the reason that many of the classes posted were not considered

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