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    Quote Originally Posted by trancejeremy View Post
    Bear in mind, Gary Gygax publicly apologized for including psionics. There's a lot of people who don't like psionics (and have been vocal about it since they were introduced)
    I was under the impression that it was more about how they were implemented rather than psionics per se.

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    AD&D psionics and later version almost have nothing to do with each other. And thank god. Reading about them in a Dark Sun novel made me exited. Reading about them in a rulebook made me scream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trancejeremy View Post
    Bear in mind, Gary Gygax publicly apologized for including psionics. There's a lot of people who don't like psionics (and have been vocal about it since they were introduced)
    There was also lots of support for psionics over the years including articles about working with the Deryini series by Katherine Kurtz and, of course, Dark Sun. So, after a point, who really cares what Gygax thought? It was no longer just his game.
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    Given all this information. To those familiar with PF2 Beta, do these options represent much of a change from beta to now? I wanted to like the Beta but it seemed overly complicated (especially the skill DC calculations).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesterOC View Post
    Given all this information. To those familiar with PF2 Beta, do these options represent much of a change from beta to now? I wanted to like the Beta but it seemed overly complicated (especially the skill DC calculations).
    DCs in particular have changed. Instead of having a big table where you cross-reference level with expected difficulty, you have a much smaller level that specifies what DCs a trivial, trained, expert, master, or legendary task is (I think it's 10, 15, 20, 30, 40). Individual skills then reference that doing X would be a Y type of task (e.g. climbing a ceiling would be a Master-level Athletics check).

    It still appears to be a very crunchy system, but it seems to flow somewhat better than 3e/PF1 does. We'll see if it can fill the role for those who are looking for something D&D-like but with more crunch.
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    Thanks Staffan! That is a relief that they even addressed it. I think that might be enough for me to give it a more earnest try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Why is Spoiler 21 named "Human" Heritage instead of Elf Heritage?
    Humans wrote the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Petersen View Post
    I can't wait to not play this trainwreck . Ugh.
    Do you feel that you have added anything to this conversarion?
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    Oh noes! The comment police!!!

    Well, first of all, yes. Yes, I do. My opinion of the entire situation surrounding Pathfinder 2e and how Paizo is pretty much abandoning a large part of its fan base who play Pathfinder because they didn't want a new game is indeed relevant.

    Second, I am quite sure that you completely miss the irony of your commenting not on the actual conversation itself but rather the validity of another participant's contribution to said conversation is, in of itself, an even better example of vacuousness than that which you seem to be implying I am guilty of.

    Third, when trying to sound like, all superior and stuff, you should probably spell check to ensure you don't misspell a simple word like "conversation"...unless that was a play on words, like a portmanteau of (Gola)rion and conversa(tion) in which case...nah, never mind. No way you're that witty.

    Finally, in case my tone for this comment doesn't translate well into Arrogantdickish,

    Funny shirt, not the place to post it.

    While were at it, its fine to disagree here, just dont be disagreeable while doing so.
    Last edited by Dannyalcatraz; Saturday, 1st June, 2019 at 01:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Petersen View Post
    Oh noes! The comment police!!!

    Well, first of all, yes. Yes, I do. My opinion of the entire situation surrounding Pathfinder 2e and how Paizo is pretty much abandoning a large part of its fan base who play Pathfinder because they didn't want a new game is indeed relevant.

    Second, I am quite sure that you completely miss the irony of your commenting not on the actual conversation itself but rather the validity of another participant's contribution to said conversation is, in of itself, an even better example of vacuousness than that which you seem to be implying I am guilty of.

    Third, when trying to sound like, all superior and stuff, you should probably spell check to ensure you don't misspell a simple word like "conversation"...unless that was a play on words, like a portmanteau of (Gola)rion and conversa(tion) in which case...nah, never mind. No way you're that witty.

    Finally, in case my tone for this comment doesn't translate well into Arrogantdickish,
    I thought not but thank you for confirming my belief, it's a weight off my shoulders. But you make one valid point, my post did not add to the conversation , my thoughts on this thread is that I like the glimpses that we have seen but prefer larger more complete information. I am curious about the changes from beta to final product and on how many more character options we will see in the 1st year.
    Last edited by Dannyalcatraz; Saturday, 1st June, 2019 at 01:23 AM.

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