How many 1st level Fighers can an 11th Level Fighter Kill?

Stalker0 · Jun 19, 2019

dnd4vr said:
Well, from the 100,000 simulations I ran, the average kills before the "Champion" falls was 7.90 with a standard deviation of 2.84 kills. A maximum of 22 kills (9 times) and 26 times with no kills at all.

I don't know how you handled initiative, but I gave the Champion a +1 modifier and the 1st-level fighters no modifier, with the Champion also going first in the case of ties. I also gave the Champion the 103 hp average and randomly added the second wind if hp dropped below 82 (since his max boost would add 21, returning him to full). The action surge was added the first round. Like you, replacements moved in when kills happened so the Champion was always attacked 8 times per round.

The chart shows the observed number of times X kills occurred. Your calculated estimated kills of 10 is high a bit IMO and I hope this helps. If you want the excel spreadsheet with the macro, just let me know.

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I figured someone would piggy back off the work and take it to the next level...kudos! My guess is I underestimated the second wind power for the 1st level fighters, so more of them died than should have.

StormbringerAUS · Jun 19, 2019

zfulhr said:
you are right, of course all of them.

I know I am, unfortunately through out my life most people don't realise it.

FrogReaver · Jun 19, 2019

You know who would kill them all nearly every time. A level 11 hunter ranger....

DND_Reborn · Jun 19, 2019

aco175 said:
What would the math be if you allow flanking rules for the 1st level fighters?

Average kills with flanking (and earlier assumptions) would be about 5.19 with standard deviation of 1.99, 213 occurrences with 0 kills and max kills was 15.

DND_Reborn · Jun 19, 2019

LordEntrails said:
Oh, since you have the numbers....

How does it fair for a 5th level fighter? 15th? 20th?

What if the opponent are 2nd level? or 5th?

Well, now we are bringing in a lot of other variables. I can code it, but it will probably be a couple days when I have free time (I DO have a life, LOL!).

I just added the flanking option for the mooks, and that lowered the average significantly. Giving the mooks more hp and eventually extra attack will lower the average kills significantly as well.

DND_Reborn · Jun 19, 2019

FrogReaver said:
You know who would kill them all nearly every time. A level 11 hunter ranger....

Spec out the options and I'll let you know.

Tony Vargas · Jun 19, 2019

StormbringerAUS said:
I know I am, unfortunately through out my life most people don't realise it.

Yeah, we all know how you feel.

FrogReaver · Jun 19, 2019

Rapier + Shield. Dueling Style. Hunter's Mark. Horde Breaker. Hex an enemy. Whirlwind Attack every round. Use the horde breaker attack on your hexed enemy if it's not dead. If it is then pick an enemy you already hit. Max Dex. 14-16 con, you pick.

He will use level 3 cure wounds provided there are 4 or fewer enemies left and he is below 40 hp. He will recast hunter's mark with the other spells as needed.

LordEntrails · Jun 19, 2019

dnd4vr said:
Well, now we are bringing in a lot of other variables. I can code it, but it will probably be a couple days when I have free time (I DO have a life, LOL!).

I just added the flanking option for the mooks, and that lowered the average significantly. Giving the mooks more hp and eventually extra attack will lower the average kills significantly as well.

No rush

I find it a fascinating study. It's a really interesting thing that shows the real power (not DPR etc) or effectiveness of levels and what they really mean.