D&D 5E What spells should have had the ritual tag, but don't?

gyor · Jun 28, 2019

What spells should have had the ritual tag, but don't? Magifiscent Mansion Demiplane Hollow Planar Ally Planar Binding Geas Astral Projection Find Steed Greater Find Steed Temple of the Gods Mighty Keep

Quartz · Jun 28, 2019

Anytthing that can't be cast in combat.

gyor · Jun 28, 2019

Quartz said:
Anytthing that can't be cast in combat.

I'd make certain exceptions to that for anything game breaking.

Fenris-77 · Jun 29, 2019

Conceptually? Most of the divination and rest related stuff, plus most of the finding stuff and long range talking type stuff. That said, high level casters are already pretty high power, do they really need to be even more powerful? I'm not sure they do.

*edit* of course the ritual caster feat does help balance things out when you make more stuff rituals. Maybe.

Shiroiken · Jun 29, 2019

The one that jumps out at me is Knock. Given it's downside (which is a pretty big downside), making it also cost a spell slot is unnecessary. I'd be okay with removing the downside when cast with a spell slot, because that's a daily resource (as opposed to a skill check that requires proficiency).

Magic Circle seems like it should also be a ritual. The purpose is to set up a summoning spell, so taking up an additional slot seems unnecessary.

Magnificent Mansion is also pretty hefty for a 7th level spell slot, considering there are lower level options that are rituals that provide almost as good an option.

Given the casting time and use for travel (albeit planar travel), Astral Projection seems like it might also be better as a ritual. That way the caster still has access to their precious 9th level slot while providing the key to reach an adventure.

Anything that summons should definitely NOT be a ritual. This includes the find steed spells and planar ally, because otherwise the party could have an infinite supply of disposable allies. I don't like that find familiar is a ritual for this very reason.

DND_Reborn · Jun 29, 2019

There are too many spells to list that should be rituals IMO.

Dausuul · Jun 29, 2019

My picks:

Arcane lock

Continual flame

Knock

Catnap

Tongues

Leomund's secret chest

Mordenkainen's magnificent mansion

Sequester

Demiplane (only to access a previously created plane)

Imprisonment

doctorbadwolf · Jun 29, 2019

Find Steed

Find Greater Steed

Mage Armor

Rope Trick

Magnificent Mansion

All the high level “create a structure” spells

Probably some divination spells

bedir than · Jun 29, 2019

Magic Missile

Fenris-77 · Jun 29, 2019

What would happen if we made 60% of the spell list ritual. Which I think we could. Access to ritual spell casting is a feat away for any character. What does that do to the balance of the game?Part of me really wants to try this out.