FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
firebolt vs longsword
4d10+20 vs 4d8+28 (assuming dueling style)
Makes them comparable to a fighter with extra attack (assuming no magic weapons)
D&D 5E Fighting With Style, Fighting Styles as Level 1 subclass choices
firebolt vs longsword
4d10+20 vs 4d8+28 (assuming dueling style)
Makes them comparable to a fighter with extra attack (assuming no magic weapons)
The underlying assumption is that a fighter class that ends up being a 1/3 caster should have the best cantrip in the game. You see the problem there right? It's not about the comparison to longsword, it's about the comparison to cantrips cast by full casting classes. Like I said, it seems like a bit much.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
The farm boy luke skywalker was loaded with special talents even stepping off the farm his targeting ability was supernatural beyond anything duplicable by trained soldiers.
And our buddy Rand al Thor was trained by a Legendary Swordmaster of a rare and extraordinary style which included mental development and self hypnosis techniques that strengthened his mind and using a heirloom weapon and every one of them had abilities that amounted to reincarnation memories gifts from the Deva of 4e. He was a woodsman not so much a farmer if I recall.
I think pretending they are zero to hero is an error
Xeviat
Hero
They already have the best cantrip in the game: their attack action.
The Eldritch Knight can cantrip and make a weapon attack, though, so +Fighter level to cantrip damage would be way too much.
4d12 (poison spray) + 2d6+5 is 26+12, or 38 without great weapon fighter. 4 Greatsword attacks is 53.33 with great weapon fighter. So you could afford like +half fighter level to cantrip damage, or +Int to cantrip damage and something else, not +fighter level.
Also, this is level 20; remember, the fighter doesn't get 4th attack till 20th, so your be way ahead for a while before that.
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doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I like this.
Yep!
Too much. That’s a full feat.
Yep he’s a rogue. The versatile non magical skill class.
They started as farm boys, and then found or learn or otherwise gained rad powerz over time. And Rand is a sheepherder. A “whooly-headed sheepherder” as one of his girlfriends regularly calls him. Which is a kind of farmboy. They live in the woods, ish, on the edge of town, in a very safe place.
I like adding 1d4+Int elemental damage to a creature within 5 ft when you make a weapon attack, 1/turn. Directly comparable to Dueling.
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
It would be the worst feat choice ever on a fighter class - A feat restricted to evocation damage cantrips and spells on a fighter class that already gets all the damage scaling via extra attack. It's mostly just empowering said fighter to make use of the cantrips he choose at times instead of weapon attacks - since they scale about as well now. I honestly thought leaving it at cantrip attacks that were equal to his weapon attacks was not good enough and thus the level 1 spell cast.
Anyways, you don't like it and that's what really counts here.
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
1d4+int is better than dueling for basically the whole game (providing you up int after str). It's at least better up until tier 4 as long as you have 16 int.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
Yeh found exotic class swordsmanship and heirloom weaponry directly from the man who raised him that is so I repeat incredibly not starting at zero. And being a shepherd is not the foundation of his abilities. In 4e he might have had any number of backgrounds for flavor like shepherd (but flavor is all it is exotic birth story is probably more appropriate) Honestly he was more of a archer ranger than anything else at his lower levels.
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
yea, war magic breaks it. It's not good enough without war magic IMO. So that design won't work.
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