Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Depends on the player. Some players act things out, others just describe their PCs.
D&D 5E No Magic Shops!
Depends on the player. Some players act things out, others just describe their PCs.
First, I don't think it requires a house rule to choose the amount of treasure to provide. The DMG treasure rules are guidelines and suggestions. Second, I still disagree: if the characters have useful things to spend money on, money sinks aren't necessary.
That sounds like a way to spend money that was useful to the character, rather than a money sink. Did you purposefully inflate the cost to reduce the amount of currency the character had?
Matrix Sorcica
Hero
Ah, I wondered when this would show up.
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MechaPilot
Explorer
It can be very frustrating, whether you're a DM or a player, when you want some downtime and the group is really gung ho to keep going.
To be fair, it's almost never a matter of "can't." It's usually a matter of "is running this module worth the amount of effort it would take to adapt it."
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
That's why I almost never run a module. It takes me more work to adapt a module than it does to create an adventure from scratch.
MechaPilot
Explorer
It certainly can. It depends on the module and what you have to adapt it to. I'm currently adapting the published adventures (currently, Tales From The Yawning Portal) to one of my homebrew settings that has no kobolds, orcs, hobgoblins, ogres or giants. That's a lot of creature substitution and rewriting I have to do.
Methinks we partially discuss about the right way to play the game here and not about a mechanical extra which has eventually to be compensated.
As stated earlier imho the decision yes or no to magic shops if i run the game is heavily dependant on context aka campaign world.
I can enjoy both as a player or DM. I rather see the opportunities that come with magic shops, most important that monetary treasure gets a totally different value, and you need micromanaging tactics both Player and DM.
I know some of you say it is dungeons and dragons and not merchants and bankers, of course you are in the right to have a purist point of view, but thats not the only variant. But interestingly enough these guys suggest to buy castles and virtual lifestyle luxuries etc. and do not see that i could call that out as it is dungeons and Dragons and not playboys and estate agents.
I tend to play realistic encumbrance, not so much in absolute numbers but in volume. No golfbag of maic swords in my campaign unless your pack horse fits into the dungeon. (If it does it will be killed and eaten by the first available Monster of course)
So even if there are no magic shops, if the Players want to sell some old equipment they eventually would get something nicer than some gold by bartering e.g. some oneshot items scrolls etc.
As stated earlier imho the decision yes or no to magic shops if i run the game is heavily dependant on context aka campaign world.
I can enjoy both as a player or DM. I rather see the opportunities that come with magic shops, most important that monetary treasure gets a totally different value, and you need micromanaging tactics both Player and DM.
I know some of you say it is dungeons and dragons and not merchants and bankers, of course you are in the right to have a purist point of view, but thats not the only variant. But interestingly enough these guys suggest to buy castles and virtual lifestyle luxuries etc. and do not see that i could call that out as it is dungeons and Dragons and not playboys and estate agents.
I tend to play realistic encumbrance, not so much in absolute numbers but in volume. No golfbag of maic swords in my campaign unless your pack horse fits into the dungeon. (If it does it will be killed and eaten by the first available Monster of course)
So even if there are no magic shops, if the Players want to sell some old equipment they eventually would get something nicer than some gold by bartering e.g. some oneshot items scrolls etc.
delericho
Legend
You realise, of course, that in a world with both realistic encumbrance and also lots of magic (enough for people to need a "golf bag" for their magic swords) some bright spark would have created some sort of "scabbard of holding" to get around the problem?
[MENTION=22424]delericho[/MENTION] you mean those worlds where portable holes sometimes find their way into bags of holding and the resulting interdimensional rip forces the dungeonmaster with the heavy plight to decide on which layer of the infinite abyss the party therefore ends up next? (Big evil grin)
And unfortunately all the contents of the bag of holding is strewn out over the multiverse, so the Party is forced to reequip themselves with some overpriced green steel items they can barter of a yugoloth for the diamonds they brought in the case a raise dead might benecessary.
I mean nothing against green steel they will hurt demons perfectly good and despite that they have that lawful evil touch from Baator on them, sounds cool if ah ... ahm your Party actually also is lawful evil...
And unfortunately all the contents of the bag of holding is strewn out over the multiverse, so the Party is forced to reequip themselves with some overpriced green steel items they can barter of a yugoloth for the diamonds they brought in the case a raise dead might benecessary.
I mean nothing against green steel they will hurt demons perfectly good and despite that they have that lawful evil touch from Baator on them, sounds cool if ah ... ahm your Party actually also is lawful evil...
CapnZapp
Legend
In theory this post reads as very reasonable.
In practice, however, it completely ignores the vast amounts of gold showered upon heroes in every edition of Dungeons & Dragons, both in offical treasure loot distribution and in (most) official adventure supplements.
If you haven't checked up on the numerous bloggers and forumists that have analyzed how much gold a level 10 character (say) will have if you follow the DMG treasure guidelines, or if you play in (say) Storm King's Thunder, I strongly recommend you do so before posting.
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