Take A Look At The DUERGAR From SCAG

sstacks

Shane "Shane Plays" Stacks

• Oct 26, 2015

• #31

How does one "rise against" mind flayers, again?

 

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sstacks

Shane "Shane Plays" Stacks

• Oct 26, 2015

• #32

So FYI there's a first look / review of the SCAG available here:
http://shaneplays.com/dds-sword-coast-adventurers-guide-first-look-review/

 

Prism

Explorer

• Oct 26, 2015

• #33

It isn't mentioned in 2nd editions Lands of Intrigue which covers the ancient dwarf empire of Shanatar in a lot of detail. It might be in Drizzt Do'urdens guide to the underdark but I don't have that one. By the 3e era though its written as the history of clan Barakuir.

So definitely a FR invention.

 

Istbor

Dances with Gnolls

• Oct 26, 2015

• #34

Personally, I kind of want to play a campaign during the height of the Mind Flayer Empire. I think that could be pretty fun.

 

Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ

• Oct 26, 2015

• #35

pukunui said:

Their enslavement by illithids is mentioned in the 3e FRCS entry on duergar, so maybe it's just an FR thing?

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That's probably it—I can't keep up with Realmslore.

 

Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ

• Oct 26, 2015

• #36

sstacks said:

How does one "rise against" mind flayers, again?

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Lots of yeast, viagra, and a taste for tzatziki or tarator?

 

Fralex

Explorer

• Oct 26, 2015

• #37

I think it's kinda cool that the Mindflayers ruined so many races. It creates a bigger narrative than if it was just one. It could give the illithid-touched races a sense of forlorn kinship.

 

pukunui

Legend

• Oct 26, 2015

• #38

goldomark said:

It isn't that they can't, its that it isn't very original. It is basically a copy/paste of the Gith's background. And this addition to their background wasn't necessary. Duergars already had their schtick. They were the evil psionic dwarfs. No need to tigh them to Illithids. If someone felt Duergars absolutely needed a change in background, I wonder why they didn't put more thought into it.

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You mean like in 4e, where they were part-fiend with poisoned quills in their beards that they could shoot at people?

Personally, I don't have a problem with it, and I must say I'm a little miffed that people are complaining about it now, since it's certainly not a new idea. Duergar having been slaves of the mind flayers is established fact in the Realms.

 

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GobiWon

Explorer

• Oct 26, 2015

• #39

Sword of Spirit said:

Hmm...

For those like me who want their duergar to measure up to the MM versions, I recommend creating a feat that gives them advantage on saves vs. spells and allows their enlarge and invisibility to recharge on a short rest.

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I like this idea, but first there needs to be a feat that negates sunlight sensitivity.

 

CapnZapp

Legend

• Oct 26, 2015

• #40

I think the deep gnomes are top dog in that they alone combine superior darkvision (120') with no sunlight sensitivity.

I don't think a feat to get rid of the sensitivity is coming any time soon, you see. So Svirfneblin races ahead of Drow and all the rest.