D&D Movie/TV New D&D Movie: July 23rd 2021

Parmandur said:

But critics fo make a difference, in ways that studios can quantify and measure: that's why they care.

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Mirtek said:

Sometimes they do,sometimes they don't. There are plenty of trashy movies reviled by critics but huge hits with the masses at the box office and there are movies praised by critics who critically failed at the box office.

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Mirtek said:

Sometimes they do,sometimes they don't. There are plenty of trashy movies reviled by critics but huge hits with the masses at the box office and there are movies praised by critics who critically failed at the box office.

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robus said:

Transformers, for example.

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ArchfiendBobbie said:

Oh, come on! Can't you see how Bay would do it? He'd be the only director where Fireball is used in every battle!
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Mirtek said:

Sometimes they do,sometimes they don't. There are plenty of trashy movies reviled by critics but huge hits with the masses at the box office and there are movies praised by critics who critically failed at the box office.

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Enevhar Aldarion said:

Yep, most critics exist to help niche, artsy-fartsy, elitist movies win the annual awards. A few select "common man" critics are out there to like the type of movies that average people would enjoy who act as influencers to get people to go to the big budget blockbusters. And sometimes you get the rare movies that both types of critics love, like The Last Jedi. I would have to look back at the past few decades of Best Picture Oscar nominations just to find a year where more than one of the five nominees was something I actually saw and enjoyed.

But on the topic of the movie, I would love a D&D version of the plot from Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven.

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ArchfiendBobbie said:

Okay, let's factor that in and take a look at some highlights of their fails.

Justice League, a B+, is doing quite well. Murder on the Orient Express, another B, has made back its budget multiple times already. Star Trek Beyond, an A-, was a flop; it failed to break even. Ferdinand, which is ranked A, is on its way to being another flop.

I could go on and on and on. Example after example after example of where they were not only wrong, even based on what you say, but sometimes hilariously so.

Even adjusting for the value of Bs, it does not change the fact they have too big of an inaccuracy ratio to justify that their data is actually statistically representative. Because it's not even remotely close to statistically representative. They're only collecting data for the first night of the box office run, not the entire run to get a true representative sample size.

In short, they keep getting wrong answers because they are not practicing true science, but are instead using a stunted version of a real data collection method and relying on a massively incomplete data set to reach their rankings. They are practicing junk science.

Again, they are not accurate to actual performance on too many movies to have relevance to any discussion, scientific or otherwise, of how a movie will perform.

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oknazevad said:

Um, Justice League has actually been written off as a financial loss. There's multiple in depth analyses as to how, despite apparently grossing OK (though not great) it actually lost money because of additional marketing costs. It. Was a very expensive film to make, and a really expensive film to market, and only OK in box office results. By most estimates it would need to gross another $100-110 million dollars to break even, which is unlikely at this point. WB has already begun making personnel changes in the exec suite as fallout.

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