dave2008
Legend
I know (or at least I suspected), I was just being a bit cheeky!
Nentir Vale Coming to Dungeons and Dragons
I know (or at least I suspected), I was just being a bit cheeky!
KahlessNestor
Adventurer
I don't know what he's planning on doing with the Primal Spirits. But that was a part of the cosmology, that the gods couldn't just run around willy-nilly (like his Kord example) because the Spirits had locked them out so the world couldn't be a god-primordial battlefield again and ruin it.
KahlessNestor
Adventurer
Ah, I hadn't realized that. It's been a while since I read anything 4E, and didn't play much with the Primal paths when I was playing (more a Divine Power guy). Melora makes sense, and maybe Kord does (he was storms, right?, but also strength and power? Like a Thor/El type character?) But still, the idea of Kord running around like that is quite a cosmology change as well.
KahlessNestor
Adventurer
Yes, you can, but it's quite another big change to the Nentir Vale cosmology.
MechaTarrasque
Hero
However, it is completely in cannon that a powerful enough priest can summon an aspect of a god. So maybe you can't wrestle Kord, in his entirety, but you can wrestle a piece of Kord anywhere in the Vale that has a priest with enough juice. I don't recall if they stat'd out the aspect of Kord, but I remember they did for Bane (in fact, two different aspects) and Moradin.
Matrix Sorcica
Hero
They did? I'm quite sure they didn't.
MechaTarrasque
Hero
If I still had a subscription to the compendium, I would give you the actual references, but Bane had a warlord one (The Conqueror) and a melee fighter one, (I think it might have been the Legionnaire). They popped up in the Dragon (I think or might be Dungeon) article on lore about Bane.
Moradin's aspect was actually one of the more interesting 4e monsters, as it came with a bunch of high-level dwarf-shaped golem minions that it could replace when the PC's broke them. I am not sure where it came from, but I saw both the aspect and the minions on the compendium, so it must have been official.
Matrix Sorcica
Hero
I remember the Bane article. It was great! Don't remember the aspects, though I'm sure you're right 
Also sure ZeromaruX will be here in a short while to tell us the details
Also sure ZeromaruX will be here in a short while to tell us the details
MechaTarrasque
Hero
I remember the Bane article. It was great! Don't remember the aspects, though I'm sure you're right
Also sure ZeromaruX will be here in a short while to tell us the details
I wouldn't have remembered Bane, but there were a couple of people trying to reverse engineer stat blocks for the gods based on the aspects on one of the more interesting WotC forum threads; they were a bit confounded by the two aspects having different roles. Given that there were goblins, orcs, etc. with different roles, it shouldn't have been such a big deal, but god stat blocks were so rare that any blip was a big one....
Edit: I also want to agree that that Bane article was really good. For an edition that didn't "officially" have LN (admittedly with evil tendencies), he really came across as an excellent example of that. After reading the article, I adjusted how I ran the setting so that merchants and farmers were actually happier in hobgoblin-controlled areas then in most human-controlled areas. Although the hobbies were cruel when you violated the law, they didn't tolerate violations of discipline among themselves, so a hobgoblin wouldn't randomly appropriate your stuff, and if he did and you reported it (which you could actually do without fear of reprisal as long as the hobgoblin was judged guilty), the hobgoblin could be imprisoned or tortured.
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