Arnwolf666
Adventurer
That in my opinion is the end of liberty.
Consent in Gaming - Free Guidebook
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To quote an old adage - your right to swing your fist ends where the other guy's nose begins. This has always been true, but you haven't really been held to it. So, it will feel like the end of liberty. But really, you were unjustly allowed to hit metaphorical noses willy-nilly in the past.
Someone's presented you with a method of knowing better where people's noses are. Use it or not, your choice.
Arnwolf666
Adventurer
I’m completely against violence. You are talking about the use of words.
billd91
Not your screen monkey (he/him)
Sadly, I'm not and wasn't surprised at all. Because it nearly always happens. There was a brouhaha on the Gary Con Facebook page about a seminar on diversity that had to be shutdown by one of the organizers. It comes up whenever people call out for better inclusion and anti-harassment policies at conventions. And it's almost always the same class of people complaining - I'll let you guess who.
There's always a backlash against the perceived social justice warriors despite claims that they've "never needed policies/pamphlets before and everyone's always welcome at their table". If that were true, they wouldn't need to complain. Yet they do. My best guess is, despite their claims of being welcoming, they realize the hobby really isn't and they're protecting their privileged place in it or at least protecting their privilege of not being challenged or questioned over it. And, frankly, it disgusts me.
I don't necessarily agree with all criticism aimed at the white, cisgendered, heterosexual men who have dominated the hobby (I still can't figure out why Tim Kask is on the same hit list as Frank Mentzer and Bill Webb). But I do agree that diversity and inclusion need to be fought for and the backlashes resisted.
Aldarc
Legend
When people request that I stop treading on their toes while dancing freely unawares, instead of doing the polite thing by apologizing and being more mindful of where I step in the future, I instead engage in hyperbolic statements about "the end of liberty." However, I personally prefer more overly dramatic statements like "this spells the death of the freedom for all Western civilization" and then promptly storm out of the room. After all, if I am going to make an insipid statement about how being mindful about how what I say can negatively affect others and act responsibly with my words is tantamount to the end of liberty, then go big or go home. Am I right?
Arnwolf666
Adventurer
I think instead of calling it a consent form
We should both be welcome to stay and have our voices heard.
Campbell
Relaxed Intensity
I do not find it helpful to question the legitimacy of someone's emotional responses. We all have varying levels of emotional sensitivity. Regardless of why someone feels a given way those feelings are legitimate. It might be the case that people with vastly different levels of emotional sensitivity are not a good fit for gaming together, but that does not mean having a higher level of emotional sensitivity is like wrong or that their feelings are not legitimate.
When someone has an emotional response at the table we need to decide how to address it. I choose to respond with as much empathy as possible in that moment of play. Other people might make other choices.
Sometimes we find that we are not creatively compatible and need to go our separate way
We are all free to set our own boundaries in any social situation. No one is entitled to say or do whatever they want without a response from anyone else.
No one is saying everyone must use these tools. You are free to set your own boundaries. I am also entitled to set my own personal boundaries and choose to only play with people who respect my own personal boundaries. This is what liberty is all about - our right to choose for ourselves the sort of play experiences we want to engage in.
Your liberty is not impacted because someone communicates their personal boundaries to you. You have a choice of how to respond. They also have a choice of what to do if you choose not to respect their boundaries. This is both of us each exercising our liberty.
When someone has an emotional response at the table we need to decide how to address it. I choose to respond with as much empathy as possible in that moment of play. Other people might make other choices.
Sometimes we find that we are not creatively compatible and need to go our separate way
We are all free to set our own boundaries in any social situation. No one is entitled to say or do whatever they want without a response from anyone else.
No one is saying everyone must use these tools. You are free to set your own boundaries. I am also entitled to set my own personal boundaries and choose to only play with people who respect my own personal boundaries. This is what liberty is all about - our right to choose for ourselves the sort of play experiences we want to engage in.
Your liberty is not impacted because someone communicates their personal boundaries to you. You have a choice of how to respond. They also have a choice of what to do if you choose not to respect their boundaries. This is both of us each exercising our liberty.
Sacrosanct
Legend
If your voice is to tell a player who happens to be gay to "just get over it and stop whining" when you and others are making repeated derogatory gay jokes and pejoratives, then no. You aren't welcome. Not at any table I know of anyway, nor at public tables (like at gaming stores and conventions).
Arnwolf666
Adventurer
Really. I thought we were taking about using tsunamis and dehydration to kill players and dealing with players that have phobias to spiders and such. Well we have to stop the game because Fred is afraid of spiders. And bob had a friends die in a car accident. So no more car chases in our games. Oh and Cindy she’s afraid of clowns so now we have to cancel the game that takes place in a circus.
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