D&D 5E The New D&D Book: Tasha's Cauldron of Everything!

dave2008 · Aug 25, 2020

Urriak Uruk said:
I'd have to see it to believe you, everything I've seen doesn't mention it.

@Marandahir and @Urriak Uruk Here is the link: With D&D's Next Rulebook, Character Creation Will Never Be the Same, the second paragraph mentions "new creatures," but that could be a reference to something besides "monsters." Regardless, that was the reference I was talking about. Like I said, I didn't believe it either.

Dire Bare · Aug 25, 2020

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
The unwillingness to open up settings on DMs Guild confuses me.

WOTC: YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO RELEASE A 5E JAKANDOR PRODUCT. JUST PUT IT ON DMS GUILD FOR THOSE FOUR PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE SETTING TO DO SOMETHING WITH.

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
Oh, another setting for you to open up on DMs Guild, WotC: Thunder Rift. You could even explicitly say it's a Tier 1-2 setting and content should be designed for beginning players and/or DMs. Other than the boxed sets, that's not an area the company is targeting. (Obviously, Mystara covers some of that territory, too, but is much more sprawling in comparison.)

You know, I'm probably wrong, but . . . .

Jakandor and Thunder Rift never had there own distinct product lines like the "big" D&D settings did. It's possible they just might be fair game on the DM's Guild . . . .

Fun Fact: Jakandor was supposed to get it's own product line, titled "Steel & Bone". Had a neat logo too! But then it got folded into the "Odyssey" series of products and never was granted elite setting status . . . .

Dire Bare · Aug 25, 2020

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
What's the one with chivalry and faeries that people were talking about here a few months ago? Again, not a MTG fan, but that sounded like a lot of fun and a fantasy focus that D&D hasn't had since the TSR days. My daughter would flip for faerie tales plus knights.

Throne of Eldraine.

It's a pretty neat setting, but fairly new and not as well developed as Ravnica or Theros. It's not too far from core D&D, and might not have much to offer to expand the game. Unless WotC figured out some way to emphasize the fairy tale nature of the setting as a differentiator.

Dire Bare · Aug 25, 2020

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
I assume Weis and Hickman's price is higher than WotC thinks is worth paying at the moment.

The original Dragonlance Chronicles trilogy of novels by Weis & Hickman was work-for-hire. WotC owns Dragonlance lock-stock-and-barrel, and doesn't need to worry about Weis & Hickman's price at all.

But, like Salvatore and the Realms (or at least Drizzt's corner of it), having Weis & Hickman as a part of the Dragonlance team has cache to it. I can see WotC wanting to have a new Weis & Hickman trilogy to go along with a refreshed campaign setting . . . but they certainly don't need to have them involved.

Guest 6801328 · Aug 25, 2020

Marandahir said:
It is. You might not like it though since they modified it extensively from UA -> Mythic Odysseys of Theros (where it was also printed). I like it just fine, but a lot of people who loved Oath of Heroism seem to hate Oath of Glory.

Just looked it up. I did like the original Heroism better. Alas.

Still, the movement rate is pretty cool.

Weiley31 · Aug 25, 2020

Dire Bare said:
Throne of Eldraine.

It's a pretty neat setting, but fairly new and not as well developed as Ravnica or Theros. It's not too far from core D&D, and might not have much to offer to expand the game. Unless WotC figured out some way to emphasize the fairy tale nature of the setting as a differentiator.

I actually like the storybook aspect of it. Especially with how some of the cards are.

Staffan · Aug 25, 2020

Dire Bare said:
There's this idea that if it weren't for the Ravnica and Theros books, we'd have our Dark Sun or Greyhawk by now . . . . and that simply isn't true. Those settings just don't have the numbers to justify WotC likely ever adapting them to 5th Edition. I'd like to be wrong, and hope I'm proven so someday . . . .

Dark Sun could have the numbers – I think the 4e version was pretty well received, at least. The problem there is that Dark Sun needs a robust set of psionics rules that aren't just sub-classes for normally non-psionic classes (those are nice to have to give some extra psionic spice, but I believe the setting needs at least a dedicated psionic class), and without that it would fall flat. And that's where they're having trouble, particularly since the 5e developers seem to have a fairly different view of psionics than most fans of the settings where psionics is A Thing (Dark Sun and Eberron). For us, psionics is something you can base your character around, and something you can study scientifically and split into multiple different fields. For them, it seems to be more weird, otherworldly Lovecraftian stuff.

Zardnaar · Aug 25, 2020

I like both the covers, probably prefer the alt.

Demetrios1453 · Aug 25, 2020

dave2008 said:
@Marandahir and @Urriak Uruk Here is the link: With D&D's Next Rulebook, Character Creation Will Never Be the Same, the second paragraph mentions "new creatures," but that could be a reference to something besides "monsters." Regardless, that was the reference I was talking about. Like I said, I didn't believe it either.

Since the book is going to cover psionics at least tangentially (as we're getting psionic subclasses), perhaps they'll have a small selection of psionic monsters and psionic variants of current creatures? That would get the gem dragons in, although they would take up about 20 pages alone...

Parmandur · Aug 25, 2020

dave2008 said:
@Marandahir and @Urriak Uruk Here is the link: With D&D's Next Rulebook, Character Creation Will Never Be the Same, the second paragraph mentions "new creatures," but that could be a reference to something besides "monsters." Regardless, that was the reference I was talking about. Like I said, I didn't believe it either.

If they include the Variant Class Features UA material, there would be Star blocks for the new Ranger options, and maybe for the new Summoning Spells IIRC.