D&D 5E Elemental princes of Evil....and....

TheSword · Aug 12, 2021

GuyBoy said:
Anyone know the origins of the name Yan-C-Bin?

No clue but I did see a cool suggestion of pronouncing the C as a sharp intake of breath through your teeth. Which sounds much cooler.

TheSword · Aug 12, 2021

vincegetorix said:
Werent the Elemental Princes of Good Akadia, Grummbar, Kossuth and Isshtya?
Or they were just elemental lords, but considered divinities?

I cant remember.

Kossuth and Akadi were definitely full gods (lesser I think off the top of my head)

Tales and Chronicles · Aug 12, 2021

TheSword said:
Kossuth and Akadi were definitely full gods (lesser I think off the top of my head)

So Imix and crew are less powerful than lesser deities?

That's sad for something called Archo-elementals or Primordial Lords.

SkidAce · Aug 12, 2021

Here are my elemental powers....

TheSword · Aug 12, 2021

vincegetorix said:
So Imix and crew are less powerful than lesser deities?

That's sad for something called Archo-elementals or Primordial Lords.

He was actually a greater deity in the 3e FR pantheon. But was downgraded to a primordial in 4e. Which makes sense.

Hexmage-EN · Aug 12, 2021

vincegetorix said:
So Imix and crew are less powerful than lesser deities?

That's sad for something called Archo-elementals or Primordial Lords.

4E's Cryonax was a beast.

I also remember reading at least once during 4E that the primordials were initially stronger and required teams of gods to defeat even one of them, but that the primordials had grown weaker following their defeat and imprisonment.

LordEntrails · Aug 12, 2021

Scourge and PotA are the only places I can recall any 5E references.

Tales and Chronicles · Aug 12, 2021

Hexmage-EN said:
4E's Cryonax was a beast.

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I also remember reading at least once during 4E that the primordials were initially stronger and required teams of gods to defeat even one of them, but that the primordials had grown weaker following their defeat and imprisonment.

Yup, that's like my biggest grippe with PotA: I come from an edition where the Primordial entered slug-fest against Gods, a now I have a CR 18 Yan-C-Bin?

Eck, the elder elementals from MotF a way stronger than those elemental lords.

Kobold Avenger · Aug 12, 2021

vincegetorix said:
Werent the Elemental Princes of Good Akadia, Grummbar, Kossuth and Isshtya?
Or they were just elemental lords, but considered divinities?

I cant remember.

They're Deities, and also seemingly indifferent as they were given Neutral alignments.

Urriak Uruk · Aug 12, 2021

vincegetorix said:
Werent the Elemental Princes of Good Akadia, Grummbar, Kossuth and Isshtya?
Or they were just elemental lords, but considered divinities?

I cant remember.

No idea what they were in previous editions, but I don't think Kossuth, Istishia, Grumbar, or Akadi are good anymore. They all seem to be neutral, and Kossuth probably leans evil (there is an evil NPC who worships Kossuth in Tomb of Annihilation).

I believe the status of those four (and Bazim-Gorag) is that they are Elemental Lords, who chose to never fight the gods. They are primordials, but are so powerful they are worshipped as if they are gods by many on the Material Plane.