A Thought: Probably Best Download all OGL material NOW

Uni-the-Unicorn! · Jan 6, 2023

D1Tremere said:
I'm confused. How does this effect drivethru or kickstarter?
To my understanding, drivethru is a store front, and individual sellers will simply need to switch to the new OGL with little or no change. Kickstarter isnt profit, and the OGL 1.1 specifies profit. Unless the kickstarted product actually generates profits in excess of $750k it shouldn't really be effected by using the new OGL.

fYi, the leaked OGL says “revenue” not “profit”

Deset Gled · Jan 6, 2023

It's been awhile since this comic felt relevant, but here we are...

DRM may be different from an OGL, but the analogy is close enough.

I do not endorse piracy. But there may be a collection of legally questionable PDFs that I have on my network storage somewhere. PDFs of books I owned when purchasing them as PDF wasn't an option, things I wanted to read that weren't available via standard online sources at the time, etc. None of those are danger of being lost because of business decisions made by Hasbro.

D1Tremere · Jan 6, 2023

Uni-the-Unicorn! said:
fYi, the leaked OGL says “revenue” not “profit”

Ahh. The video I was watching said Gross Revenue so I was confused. So it really matters there on the official wording of the final version.

Ruin Explorer · Jan 6, 2023

delericho said:
(There was a very similar situation a number of years ago when they suddenly pulled their PDFs of old-edition materials from sale - this was before DMs Guild was a thing - when those were disappeared. I, for one, lost access to several PDFs I had purchased because I was offline for the key week in question.)

Yup.

I'm STILL MAD about that. They even gave me my money back, but GRRRRR how dare someone take my PDFs without warning me. I also access to some stuff which is now only available by sailing with Jack Sparrow.

Scribe · Jan 6, 2023

Heh, I wondered when discussion of a sailing persuasion would begin.

delericho · Jan 6, 2023

Bitbrain said:
What about those game systems sold on DrivethruRPG that don’t use the OGL?

Anything that isn't OGL won't be affected. That said, it's probably good policy not to rely on someone else's servers for your only access to anything you want to keep.

SAVeira · Jan 6, 2023

delericho said:
Anything that isn't OGL won't be affected. That said, it's probably good policy not to rely on someone else's servers for your only access to anything you want to keep.

I have a had at least one company vanish from DriveThruRPG in the past and be left with no way to access their files. In some case they have been in the library app, so I regain access that way.

mamba · Jan 6, 2023

D1Tremere said:
Kickstarter isnt profit, and the OGL 1.1 specifies profit. Unless the kickstarted product actually generates profits in excess of $750k it shouldn't really be effected by using the new OGL.

the OGL 1.1 specifically does not talk about profit but gross from my understanding

humble minion · Jan 6, 2023

SAVeira said:
I have a had at least one company vanish from DriveThruRPG in the past and be left with no way to access their files. In some case they have been in the library app, so I regain access that way

I lost access to some purchased M&M material when the 3pp company shifted from 2e to 3e and yanked their old products.

The general principle is worth remembering - if it's not saved on media you personally control, you don't own it. I still buy CDs for the same reason.

Retreater · Jan 7, 2023

Yeah I'm going to be downloading my library to flash drives this weekend. Thanks for the heads-up.

Update: Took me about 3 hours between last night and this morning. Ended up with about 10 GB of OGL material (that I could find).