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  1. Justice and Rule

    D&D General Kobold Press Going Down a Dark Road

    I don't see how this is a proper comparison? Sure, classes within editions are different, but that's not really a comparison between the same classes in two different editions (or in this case, editions that are meant to be compatible). The differences between 1D&D and 5E classes matter because...
  2. Justice and Rule

    D&D General Kobold Press Going Down a Dark Road

    Yeah, but there are kind of real differences so far in the classes when it comes to 1DND versus 5E. I think it's maybe better to say that there will be an environment where both exist, but one will eventually usurp the other, like early humans and Neanderthals.
  3. Justice and Rule

    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I think if you want to play the game of "But he thought everyone was bad!" when he said black people were "semi-human" full of "vice", it'll be a losing battle. This whole argument feels like saying "Well, I can get over it, why can't others?" and missing that the racism he gave doesn't exist...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    His views on Asians and Africans are pretty well-known, but I suggest you look them up. I think they'll better-inform you of why he's harder to touch than you are making out. Yes, but I think there are clear delineations between different ethnicities. At any rate, I feel like all this does is...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I mean, yeah, that's kind of it, isn't it? You don't need to be racist or trying to be racist to do something that could be interpreted as such. You don't need to be actively exclusionary to someone to inadvertently make them feel unwelcome. That doesn't mean you're racist, but it also doesn't...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I think that we need to move away from him because his views were far worse than most people who might have held problematic beliefs, and especially so if we want to make more content based on his work. I'm reminded of Nnedi Okorafor, a writer who won a World Fantasy Award... that is also just a...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    @Alzrius Yeah, I'm pretty much done with you. When you are making up arguments about me misrepresenting people and then suddenly try to remove my comments from the context of the thread, it's pretty obvious you're not here to discuss in good faith. No more feeding the troll. :P Sure, there...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    God, I've been off the 40K train for like 10 years now. Now that I have money, I want to collect me some Blood Angels. Though their new Dante should have damn well had wings. :mad: But as far as comic books go, I think you can speed through it pretty quickly. Then again, I really speedread well...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    But seriously, read that Red Sonja run. Gail Simone does excellent stuff.
  10. Justice and Rule

    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    10 pages until it gets closed, typically.
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Saying it more doesn't make it true. Saying someone feeling unwelcome doesn't mean are saying they are being persecuted. It means they don't feel welcome. Persecution is something active, being made to feel unwelcome is not always as such. It can be a passive thing, which you clearly do not...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    No, it's different and whining about how it isn't misses it. Yes, totally, minority players are asking me to validate their feelings of persecution and that's totally less valid than your own feelings of persecution. Totally. Can you point to the post? Because I suspect you can't. It's...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Sure, but we also need to come to terms with that. Also, we probably need to move away from him and stop, well, putting him as part of the advertising. Yeah, I don't think him not liking me as a Catholic Frenchman is worth as much as some of his other views, either. I think we need to...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Yeah, I think the first arc has her in that, but given how the run goes from there I think at a certain level it was mandated. Not that she isn't in sexy stuff after I mean, if that's what you demand she wears, maybe? I'm reminded of the Mortal Kombat debate between MK9 and MK10 and 11 where...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    The definition is broad, but part of it is because it's not meant to be a hard rule. It's meant to be an example of what to look for, what to examine, what to discuss.
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I mean, it literally is? Just read what they wrote. The concern-trolling here is people talking about how they feel persecuted, not people talking about the actual issue. This is just like any other thread on the matter, where it turns into "But what about my feelings?!" rather than actually...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I think you're not wrong about the ideas of Lovecraft being bigger than the man, but there is inevitably a tension between the ideas and the fact that people love to use his name to advertise their products. And I think a lot of products are smart to deal with him early, but it doesn't stop the...
  18. Justice and Rule

    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    No, it's just recognizing our past and our advancement past that. You can like things but also recognize that some of elements from things you like are harmful. You talk about it as a "culture of fear", but it's not as much as a culture of introspection. So much of what we are talking about is...
  19. Justice and Rule

    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    No, your constant concern-trolling and keeping away from the actual topic to larger topics that don't apply are what is keeping us from an honest conversation. People seemingly can't actually reference and defend what is actually being talked about and instead like to reference ideas like...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I mean, alternatively the continued reactionary defense against criticism of things could also be likened to things like the hardening support of slavery as well as segregation in the South, by which I mean these sorts of comparisons are completely ill-suited to what is being talked about and we...
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