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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    That gamers’ experiences and voices that have been marginalized over the years will continue to be marginalized. This voice, for example. Edit: I’m about to board a plane for vacation, and I hope to make it a vacation from ENWorld as well as from work. I’ll be interested to see what develops...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    A single book? It's 40 years of D&D and the often racist tropes that have been uncritically imported from an even longer history of pulp (and mainstream) fiction. And Paizo's clumsy handling of slavery in its campaign setting and public play events. And the minstril art in Spelljammer. And the...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    If it were a single hypothetical book, I don't think we'd be having this conversation. The content is pervasive. Feelings of exclusion build up over time, and it takes time to undo the damage.
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    It’s obviously very clear to you that those posts 100% reflect what you’ve said. It’s very clear to me that they don’t.
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    That sounds pretty darn definitive. :)
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I guess we're won't get any further here. I was participating in the locked thread. What you see as statements of fact, I see as statements of opinion (even without an IMO attached to every post). It's very clear to me, and the opposite is very clear to you. I think that it's the unnecessary...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I appreciate the opportunity to come to some mutual understanding. I'm not trying to be pedantic. "Wizards should not print this content" =/= "Wizards should not be allowed to print this content." The difference (as I see it) is stark, and it's important. The first is an opinion. The second is...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Yep, pretty sure. You’re conflating two different ideas. “I don’t think WotC should print this content.” “I don’t think WotC should be allowed to print this content.” Point me to anyone who took that second position and I’ll revise my statement.
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I’ve said it before, I say it now, and, the gods help me, I’ll probably end up saying it again tomorrow: This isn’t about censorship. It’s not about what’s allowed and what’s prohibited. No one is suggesting that WotC should be prevented from publishing anything they please. It’s not helpful...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I thought Martha was Superman’s mother.
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    Planescape 5e Planescape- What would you like to see in the upcoming setting?

    I know it’s not your intent, but you just totally sold me on an Astral Sea Spelljammer/Planescape mash-up. I’d buy that!
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I haven’t seen anyone here advocating for forcing a view of what’s correct on anyone else. Discussing opinions, explaining positions, telling publishers what we want to see and what we don’t want to see … none of that is about what’s “allowable” or “prohibited.”
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    If that’s your take-away, you have missed the point. Depictions of slavery in gaming materials are a problem not because slavery is bad. It’s a problem because the way it has been presented is unwelcoming to many players.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I think you’re missing something important. People aren’t arguing that slavery be removed* because it’s bad. They’re arguing that it be removed because including it is unwelcoming to many players. * I say removed as a short-hand. More properly, it’s about considering when, where, and how to...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    This might help explain the depth of difference between personal preferences in types of gaming and the unwelcoming message sent by the inclusion of slavery in gaming materials.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I agree that men's and boy's behavior was a larger barrier to entry into the RPG sphere for women than the artwork in the books. And I know from experience though that artwork contributes to the problem. Women I know who early on started gaming did so in spite of sexist art. The women I knew...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Ah, I see. It seemed to me that you were being dismissive of other people's opinions through hyperbole. Thanks for clarifying. Why? Because the first mention of erotica was in response to a question about pin-up art in RPGs. I think pin-up art is reasonably classified as erotica. EDIT: I...
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    You and I have very different ideas of what constitutes losing one's mind. And of pitchforks.
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    Some people have expressed some opinions on a D&D forum. None of us have lost our minds and none of us are carrying pitchforks, puritanical or otherwise. What's the point of mischaracterizing this discussion?
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    What We Lose When We Eliminate Controversial Content

    I see the break in communications here. I believe you're making unwarranted inferrences. If I say something is sexist and inappropriate, that does not mean that I'm lobbying to ban that thing. First, I don't have the power or authority to prohibit any pubished content. Second, if I did have...
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