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So...yes, they are the same? What are we all talking about then?

I've spent a lot of time thinking about and designing content for D&D-like games. I don't use that as a bludgeon to try to convince people my style is superior (all the while telling folks I'm just trying to correct their misunderstandings). Not that I'm saying you do, but I've seen behavior...

Are you folks working on episode 3? Loved the ones you've released so far!

Does that mean you think there are no differences in gamestyle, just whether or not they write down definitions of what they're doing?

You can think critically about what you are designing without the kind of deep introspection folks like @pemerton and other Narrativists devote to it. What requires you to write academic essays about game theory in order to write a new subclass or a few monster statblocks?

I miss the '90s Outer Limits. Some great imaginative thought there.

No it doesn't. Saying that people are wired to say no doesn't mean that they should always say yes.

People claiming that their opinion is more valid than those of others.

Those aren't the only two options. You don't have to keep up with the Hasbros or shut down.

Level Up characters are, mathematically, probably a little stronger than 5.0 characters (though about on par with 5.5). The impression I'm getting from your post, however, is that that and the number of abilities are being counted as negatives. I see neither as such, so I'm not sure we're on the...

Too bad, I love that guy's work, pretty much his entire philosophy really.

I don't think you've hit the mark on what's bothering trad players here, but if you're right, maybe they just prefer a more casual, DIY style.

Yeah. That actually seems kinda harsh to me.

Married...With Children

I feel that, but I have a 12 and a 15 year old, so I have a hard time ignoring just how long ago the things I enjoy were made.

1976 here. Glad to know I'm "modern". Can you please let everyone else I know? They don't believe me.

This is in fact what I've been saying this entire time.

Level Up has a great Marshal class. Totally works with any version of 5e. https://a5e.tools/rules/marshal

But management in a publicly traded company doesn't get to choose a strategy that the investors don't think will make them the most money personally. That's the difference. No other consideration really matters.

It's a funny world, and I feel very differently about stories than I do about games.