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And if the majority does something it's okay. My family sure if glad Abe Lincoln didn't agree with that.

Then what is the point? IF you're not trying to help people build a shield out of 'Product of his time', then why try to make the case that he was a product of his time?

3e Arms and Equipment Guide and the 4e DMG

Outright stating your business took an action to harm the competition literally out of spite will certainly go over well in court.

Did we just reach 'both sides'-ing sexism?

None of it maters because it doesn't matter if he was 'a product of his time'. Whether there were one billion people who did and said scumbag things during a certain time period or one, that doesn't change the things they said or did. If someone sucks because they were a 'product of their...

Why aren't we seeking the best possible intention for the historians then? Like maybe they were reporting the reality of what was in the works. Or being sarcastic. That's it. They were being sarcastic. And maybe they were nice to a game designer a couple of time. Total absolution, right?

Labor is still part of the 'value' though. When you pay for something, the cost you pay is calculated in part from how much it cost to make in edition to how much they think they can crush out of you.

Or like a sperate books for the people who really really want it while not bogging down the core with stuff most people will never use?

The image is the product of that labor. In literally every other transaction you make, you are paying for labor. And when using AI, you are taking the product of a lot of peoples' labor stolen by a big company that is benefiting from your use is their tool to make that tool better at stealing.

'Black' and 'Dark' especially in the realm of mythology doesn't usually directly correlate to color. It more pertains to be hidden or mysterious or enigmatic in nature. This was very true when it comes to Dark Elves in particular before D&D drow became a group of literally black elves.

You would be shocked at the number of bigots who make 'exceptions' for 'one of the good ones'.

My thing is, magic is a naturally-occurring force in the D&D world that would have an effect on the course of evolution as an environmental factor. Creatures could evolve in response to magic (as well as other fantastic elements such as adamantine and mythral as trace minerals) without actually...

Actual natural language or the word chaos they call natural language in D&D?

So a guile hero? I don't see how that limits action and story, it just redirects the focus and energy.

I mentioned the harlot table once and you never responded. And let me ask you this: What topic was Musk talking about that is the topic of this thread? Was it about his own sexism? Is that what the discussion about? Or was it about him squawking about a months-old 'controversy' about a history...

That's for the mods to decide, not us.

Tone policing is famously a well loved and appreciated rhetorical dodge.

You mean this thread about Elon Musk trying to smokescreen the sexism in the early drafts of D&D?

We've had the foreword passages posted here. No such thing is being said int he foreword. The person who said he was a sexist not a misogynist was... hold on let me check my notes... ah, here it is: E. Gary Gygax in Europa magazine. Someone should really push back against this Gygax fellow for...