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Basically it's the professional wrestling term for not breaking character. It was originally a coded warning (because no one knew what kayfabe meant it could be said as a warning that there were people who didn't know it was all an act) but the bad guys want to be dastardly and know they should...

As mentioned earlier DMs are effectively kayfabe heels. And want our dastardly plans foiled but ham up when it happens.

Can you provide evidence for this?

Show me these players. These players who think that they get to decide what all NPCs do and override everything on the DM's side of the screen. I am only aware of two players who have ever had the upper hand over the DM - one used to badger him into running one on one sessions for their 15th...

You seem to be under the misapprehension I only run one style. My Apocalypse World games are not at all in the same style as my OSR-inspired dungeon exploration games are not at all in the same style as my heroic fantasy are very different from my ridiculous Grant Howett single pagers. Level...

We're disagreeing on what the setting logic and class fantasy says. As I have repeatedly pointed out in the real world once a priest is sacramentally invested in at least some of the largest churches then that is done. And can't be revoked. And in the absence of actual magic I would expect...

Yes it can. Or rather the fear comes from the interesting part - the long term consequences. What it doesn't come from is the boring part - the consequences being a simple numerical change. If you were to e.g. have an Undead Marks of Corruption meter that only went one way or you e.g. recovered...

So ... it basically wastes the PCs time and is something they overcome and then never have to mention again. Like I say boring. When my things alter the character sheet this isn't going to be something they can ignore ... and isn't going to be entirely negative.

This started by someone claiming that they needed to be able to revoke powers for verisimilitude and religious integrity. I'm not saying that gods can't - but allowing Gods to do this in setting is an explicit worldbuilding choice by that DM if they can and one that works against the real world...

On the contrary. It's presented in an explicitly collaborative way. Adversarial is pitting the DM against the players and having punishment mechanics. The DM gets to control the entire world outside the PCs. It's a lot less adversarial than it was before 2008 (and DMs are not as weighed down as...

And yet I'm on the "the world can affect player mechanics" side. Emphatically so. Like I have said I am an advocate for changing subclasses - and if that isn't impacting player mechanics I don't know what is. What I'm not an advocate for is crippling the player character. Change isn't the same...

I don't have an attitude "towards DMs". I am one and count as friends some very good ones all of who do things differently. However there are certain forms of toxic behaviour I've seen from DMs - almost all of which spring from DM entitlement and the DMs thinking that they should be in charge of...

Is the cleric in an anti-magic zone or is the party? And is the anti-magic zone location based or does it move with them. Because these are very different situations. When the party is in an anti-magic zone that's a challenge that everyone is facing together and that adds a twist on things...

Do you actually have a 2024 DMG? Because it does show multiple options. For example it shows you how to create your own setting - and shows you Greyhawk as an example setting. It doesn't show all possible options but to say it only gives one choice is simply false.

D&D is lousy at character development because of the whole class/level system encouraging characters to grow via Number Go Up. Meanwhile by your logic literally anything develops the character more. But what it almost unquestionably does is turns the now spelless cleric into The Load, unable to...

How so? Just because it doesn't advocate for Viking Hat DM With Unlimited Power and crippling PCs doesn't mean the 2024 DMG doesn't present multiple approaches - it does (I have a copy, picked up at MCM Comic Con). It just doesn't present all possible options.

It's as big a change as chopping both arms off a fighter.

This makes no sense; to get to the upper levels of the church they should have been clerics. So you're telling me the most important people in the church were the most powerless? You can - but you do not get to claim that the reason you want to be able to rip the powers away from a cleric and...

Not even close. The players never have the upper hand. The players would only have the upper hand if they somehow had the ability to rewrite the way the clerical orders worked and entirely redesign the god with the DM not being allowed to veto it. The DM still has overwhelmingly the upper...

There is a huge difference between "A path to make your PC a functional party member again" and not taking away their functionality. I am going to assume therefore that everything you have stated round entitled players being the problem is stated deliberately to get people angry - because that...