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  1. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's not true. Absolute power just means you have the ability to do anything you want, not that you will do anything you want, or that you won't listen to others without that power. The only thing that makes it absolute is that nothing can stop it if it is exercised. Nothing about absolute...
  2. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Don't all vehicles accelerate from stationary to their current speeds? I know when I press the gas pedal and my car is stationary, it goes to its current speed of 1mph, then 2, then 3, all the way up to 70ish on the freeways(when there's not traffic).
  3. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The bolded portion is the only place I disagree with you. Players almost always have a goal or goals, whether self-set or the recue the princess adventure hook the players chose.
  4. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It hasn't been in any thread I've seen where that has come up. @pemerton's statement is so far outside of the ballpark, it's not even in the same city.
  5. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Wow. Talk about a misunderstanding of huge proportions. If that's what you get out of it, you really need to go back and re-read the arguments.
  6. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don't agree with that. When I was in school, I never, ever showed my work. I have a mental chalkboard where I can stick numbers until I need them, so I just did the process there and put the correct answer on the test. Not once did I ever receive a talking to by the teacher about showing...
  7. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I have never said I use illusionism and have railed against it many times. I have also not said that I create secret rules. I have said that I will once every three or so years of real time fudge rolls when extreme bad luck hits the players while they have made no strategic/tactical mistakes...
  8. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    And I fail to understand how you fail to understand. It's a social group. The DM cannot decide the social contract. And assuming the DM isn't an ass, he is going to listen to the players. He may or may not decide their way, but he's going to discuss it. If the players aren't happy, they will...
  9. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Whoever that was and I cannot see each other.
  10. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The die roll also represents skill. We aren't all at the same level of skill every moment of every day. We can tired, distracted, just not on top of our game, hungry and a host of other variables that impact the skill of the person making the attempt.
  11. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because the DM is human.
  12. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Ask all the dictators throughout history. With great power comes great responsibility, and you can abuse that power.
  13. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's abuse of the power and authority granted to him by the D&D rules. Even so, you are probably correct that it's still a violation of the social contract since it runs afoul of "Don't be a jerk."
  14. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It does match what I thought he was saying, though. Perhaps he would have been better served to have said that at some point the DM has to make a final judgment and the group has to give with it or leave, but the tone of it wasn't that nobody could bring anything up. The tone was that...
  15. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is not correct. The DM can still be wrong by... 1. Violating the social contract. 2. Abusing his power and authority. Say your 1st level group is walking down the road and the DM says, "An ancient red dragon swoops down on you and breathes fire on all of you." Does the DM have the power...
  16. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's why in my example I said sharp outcropping cutting the rope. The rope wouldn't be weak or not weak depending on the skill check. As for the a portion of the cliff crumbling under you, PC skill absolutely plays in to that. Part of the climbing skill is determining the best path up...
  17. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    If that were true, you would be unable to add your stat bonus or proficiency bonus to the roll, because those represent personal ability, not pixie helpfulness. Skills represent personal effort and personal failure, not outside sources. Even the one example in the climb skill where a creature...
  18. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No. What I said was that unless your character's life is on the line, if it can't be resolved in a minute or two, it should be dropped until after the game when it won't be a disruption to everyone else. I never said unending trust or that you need to throw in the towel.
  19. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It gets brought up as part of other discussions. Say DM authority. One side argues that the DMG gives the DM absolute authority, but the DM can't just do anything he wants because many things would be abuse of authority and violate the social contract. The other side then starts pointing...
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