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+1. :)

Well, I don't think it's horrible so much as an artifact of earlier design. Here's what I proposed, in spiffy power format: This version of the power is really not different from what we currently have, but I feel Divine Sanction is more clearly worded. If they were to republish PH1 with...

Interesting, the discussion we're having here was already touched upon in 6th thread you linked to. :)

To add fuel to the fire, I've participated in threads where this phrase was called into question: The text after "Also" was taken to apply *only* before the start of your next turn after you applied this power. According to this interpretation, the only effect of Divine Challenge that lasts...

"On your turn, you must engage the target you challenged or challenge a different target." So on your first turn, you target Bob. On your second turn, you target Joe. After you target Joe, the challenge on Bob is satisfied and goes away. The phrase now reads: "On your turn, you must engage...

As Hypersmurf said, as long as you engage the creature (either attack it or end your turn adjacent to it) you don't need to keep spending minor actions to "sustain" the challenge. Spend the minor action on your first turn and stay in the monster's face and you'll be golden for the entire...

If, in the previous round, you challenged an orc five squares away and didn't engage him, you can't use Divine Challenge this round. It's not clear that you engaged the orc last round, so I think you might need to clarify your questions a bit.

It's possible that he and Robilar shared the same diabolical itineRary.

Interesting... I never considered that the source of his evil might be liteRary.

To be honest, I always felt his alignment shift was a little arbitRary.

Okay, so both of these quotes have impressed upon me the necessity of "or challenge a different target." However, I do feel "While the target is marked by the power, you must engage the target" would have been clearer. :) If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk.

Well, they didn't change it so that versatile weapons can be used. They said weapons used with two-hands. If they said barbarian powers can be used with versatile weapons but don't specify that they can only be used with two-hands, a barbarian could use his powers while wielding a longsword in...

I'll have to think about it, but I'm not so sure it's necessary, since the second challenge immediately ends the first and frees you from the consequences of the first. I think it means a new target other than the one you currently targeted. It goes back to what "different target" refers to...

Huh, that's weird. Vecna is still in there, so they're not taking gods out. Perhaps it's because Tiamat may be getting updated because she's the final boss of Scales of War? I don't know if she is the final boss or not, but it seems likely.

Ugh, I'm trying to write this in a way that doesn't make my head swim and sounds logical, but I don't have the necessary skill to do either. Suffice to say that I feel "different target" refers directly back to the "target you challenged." So if you mark Joe, that means "on your turn, you...

I'm not sure who you're referring to by "some people," but if I'm included in that you misunderstand me. Like you, I take "if none of these events occur" to mean the original two choices given - engage or challenge someone else. The problem is, the moment you challenge a second monster, the...

Pretty much. Here's the relevant bit from the Raise Dead ritual: So if the Raven Queen (that is, the DM) says no, it ain't happening. This came up in our game, once. A gnoll chieftan was assassinated, and one of the PCs said "Let's just raise him." It didn't work, because I said "As you...

Right. I think I have it now. :)

Oh, duh, how did I forget that??? I had that in my mind when I initially wrote my post, but forgot it when I was trying to figure out the order of events. :) Okay, so now here's the way I see it: Round 1 - Paladin uses a minor action to DC monster 1. Because the paladin can't challenge a...

Actually, if I understand you, the way the rule is written you could initiate divine challenge on potentially every enemy on the battlefield. Round 1: Paladin DCs monster 1. Round 2: Paladin DCs monster 2. Because he challenged someone else, the DC on monster 1 is still up. Round 3: Paladin...