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Then it should be obvious that making a fully contained, if condensed and simplified, game, is the way to go. Why is it that we became so enamoured with D&D with the Mentzer box, or B/X? It's because this was a full game, because we played and played and played, and were only left wanting for...

Indeed. I think there's even more irony to it as you think there is. ;)

Yeah. Milton Bradley's HeroQuest here too. :)

The protective cup (if any) is just one of the many parts of the plate. It is held by straps of leather to other parts of the armor. You can take it off, lift your chainmail, and have a pee. :)

I just settle for HP Lovecraft, Michael Moorcock, Clark Ashton Smith, Jack Vance, Fritz Leiber, RE Howard and a whole bunch of other authors whose fictions are closely related to gaming and blow anything ever put out by WotC out of the water every.single.time. Just settling for lesser works...

Yeah: just do it! The real bottom-line here is: if you enjoy it, play it. If you don't enjoy it, then don't play it. As simple as that. :)

Nearly all D&D novels have left me cold. I would like to like them, but they basically suck, the lot of them. :( Your mileage may vary, of course.

I can't name names, but I know for sure that some publishers are in a "wait and see" position vis a vis Essentials D&D, trying to figure out whether publishing using straight 4E rules or the specific Essentials builds/variants will be beneficial for their products. So some people are...

Absolutely. I guess now one could say that times have changed, and that the D&D game doesn't try to compete or differentiate itself from boardgames now, but rather from MMOs and other forms of electronic entertainment. But wouldn't the "imagination/no boardgame/no limits" argument be just as...

"I started in AD&D, in 3e, or later" - I'm puzzled by this option too. AD&D was published in 1978. First Ed anyway. Is it covered by this option? The "later" seems to mean "AD&D 2nd edition", though it's not mentioned. It's confusing, to me.

I didn't say that either. It is however right there on the box that the game "does not require a gameboard" because "it takes place in your imagination", and it is seen as enough of a differenciating feature of the game to be pointed out right there on the box cover. I mean. It's not rocket...

Is this a poll about the version you STARTED with, or the one you PLAYED THE MOST? :erm: I'm asking because my answer would be quite different, depending on the basic thread assumption.

DJ is an awesome game, to me. :)

It does the job right. It has enormous replay value, manages to present its rules in crystal clear fashion, makes some rules modifications that actually simplify the game in interesting ways (races as classes come to mind) and does not rely on any token/miniatures gimmickery whatsoever but...

Yes. The introductory boxed set that simplified the LA rules was entitled "Essentials", absolutely.

1. Yes. 2. Some? Yes. For others, no. 3. Yes. My Ptolus campaign group was 100% female but for me, the DM. 4. No, not especially. That's their choice to go further than our game and participate to RPG communities. I'll encourage it, for sure, but not go out of my way to push them towards it. 5...

Outstanding presentation. Kudos to TNLGNET. I'm impressed.

Which game are you talking about? 4E, or role playing games in general? In the first case, I'm not playing 4E right now but hope to be able to connect with it via Essentials. We'll see. If you are talking about the latter, i.e. role playing games in general, then we have a fundamentally...

There are parts of 4E I really like though. The very base concept of powers as units of capabilities universal throughout the game is an interesting idea. The tactical effects themselves are interesting. The way saving throws work, or the different types of defenses, this too is interesting to...

Which is metagaming, and not what I'm looking for with a role playing game.