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Like I say I can't speak for anyone else, but. I took their post to mean "Favoured Enemy and it's trappings is worth less to me than another ASI", rather than "I want the game's levelling mechanics to accommodate swapping out a core class feature for another ASI". Maybe they do want that, I'm...

Funny, I'm not familiar with the "CIRCLE OF THE MOON SPELLS Druid", I only know the Druid. Is that a new class they added in 2024, perhaps? Oh I see, I asked for classes with a concentration spell on their levelling table, because we're talking about the Ranger, that class that has a...

Show me another class with a concentration spell on their levelling table.

In this edition; Favoured Enemy, which is Hunter's Mark. I dunno, I can't speak for everybody!

You don't seem to be advocating for removing Favoured Enemy, even though you think the Ranger is perfectly fine without it?

I am making the safe assumption that the Ranger spell list will have concentration spells you may want to cast on occasion. If not Zephyr Strike, something else. If not at level 1, then one further up the table.

And thank god there's only one level in this game, or I might be forced to not care! The same resource being, your concentration. We were talking about Hunter's Mark, which uses your concentration, and spells, which also use your concentration. That being said; Again, your buffer starts at 2...

This is a very odd projection. Literally all they're advocating for in this instance, is something instead of what's meant to be the Ranger's go-to mechanic. An equal exchange. If you think it's good, then maybe you'd concede it's worth something to give up?

Sure? The difference being, features like Rage and Wild Shape remain much better than this one. No, fine, but you are encouraged to use Hunter's Mark over those other options when they pull for the same resource. Especially when/if you reach those features that are meant to encourage further...

That is correct, but it only means as much as you think it means. The playtest Ranger had features at those levels, so does this one. They don't become good just because historically they haven't been occupied. And anyway, it's not unheard of for classes to get buffs at those levels. 5E Bard's...

Don't be obtuse, I'm advocating for something better than those features. I agree with WOTC's assessment, that if Hunter's Mark is to be Ranger's main thing (much as I disagree with that in and of itself but fine), it needs buffs. Unlike Paladin and Divine Smite. These buffs are bad and/or come...

I wasn't advocating for infinite uses, only noting that they are definitely finite. Short rest refresh would help, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't offer that. I mean it depends. You might situationally prefer Zephyr Strike (since you are forced to choose vanilla), Pass Without...

Only twice per long rest at the baseline. Given that it's the method for obtaining additional damage that your class is based around, you will probably want to cast it more than your free casts allow for. We don't know for sure about how it's changed until they reveal the spells, but Ranger's...

That's what I was driving at, yeah. I am actually compelled by Ranger being a thematic and mechanical parallel to Paladin, I've said it in previous discussions, but. The scales remain tipped in Paladin's favour, even with this nerf Divine Smite got.

That is kind of true, but please point out the Paladin's base class features that hinge off of the Divine Smite ability/spell. Either in 5E, or this one. That's what bugs me (in part).

Yeah, that could be fair. Honestly I think just the "you get your first extra attack whatever the ratio" bit is nice enough without covering the additional ones Fighter gets, those 1 - 5 levels are the kinda make or break levels. Something to make multiclassing a bit less of a knee-cap in the...

May nag consult my DM about implementing that houserule. We're actually about to do an event thing where our characters play out an event in their past at an appropriate level, and I was trying to figure out a split that'd leave me with Extra Attack (which I did not have at that actual level) to...

I kinda don't hate that as a houserule. I know it's the bargain you sign up for when you choose to multiclass, but. Can still be frustrating to be stalling out like that so near the start of a game.

Repeating myself, but, that is something a previous rendition of the Ranger offered, and it wasn't a spell. And that wasn't even all the feature did! Granted the other half hinges around Favoured Enemy, which is it's own can of worms, but. If you ignore that bit, it's not bad!

The very first version of Favoured Foe they offered in the Class Feature Variants Unearthed Arcana. They changed it radically by the time Tasha's released, and I don't really get what their problem with the UA version was.