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  1. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    I asked you to name an example of a rapier being used as an officer sidearm, and the one example you came up with was a modern musketeer unit. I don't move the goalposts, you never cleared the first one. Own goal.
  2. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Your example is very modern, and I'm confident they did not often use their rapiers against enemy horse. This isn't some test or dare, by the way. If you can come up with a second example feel free. But if it's not example of soldiers going up against contemporaneous longsword users or the like...
  3. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Very good. So let's go ahead and note that the Caroleans were musketeers and pikeman. Relate that to the present discussion in any way you wish. I, personally, would choose the musket against a dragon.
  4. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    I'm not advocating you go up against a large creature with any of those things. I might prefer "a wooden stick" of sufficient size over a rapier, though.
  5. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Anything is suitable for warfare, if you're desperate. Can you give me a single example of a rapier being used as the standard sidearm for any officer or "specialized unit?" The US Marines stopped drilling with the saber about two decades ago. The modern tactical knife is functionally similar...
  6. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Sorry, I've moved on . Yes. Sticking four inches of a rapier into something that big is probably not winning that fight for you. And what do you do for a second act? A rapier isn't even a better weapon than a mace, in general. It's a specialized dueling weapon.
  7. pawsplay

    Pathfinder 2E Spellcaster armour

    There is no default penalty for wearing armor in P2E or Savage Worlds, that is specifically a quirk of Savage Pathfinder that imitates D&D 3e/P1E.
  8. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Anyhow, moving on from trying to explain repeatedly to people that the term rapier comes directly from the Italian and Spanish word ropera ("for dressing") and not from some arbitrary sword classification, and how transitional forms appear later in the 15th century and the rapier proper only in...
  9. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    It really didn't. Transitional swords existed in the 15th century in Italy and Spain, that were called "dress swords," which provided the etymological origin of the German and English cognates of "rapier." This is a little like arguing that the existence of the show American Gladiator meant that...
  10. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    AD&D actually uses the term "long sword," two words, which in Shakespeare's time sometimes did refer to a general one-handed sword. Basic D&D just called it a "sword," or when clarity was needed, "sword, normal." The bastard sword was correctly described in both games; it was starting with 3e...
  11. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Yep, that's a transitional weapon from 1490 Italy. So, not 1440, not Germany, and not a rapier. As I noted above, the terminology comes from Spain and Italy ("dress sword") and predates the rapier proper. That's a spada de lato. And I'm not just being picky, that thing is purely an arming...
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  13. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    My point was that it was called a rapier in the 20th century, "it" in this case being a 19th century sword, and rapiers, however you want to define them, did not exist in Germany in 1440. They should up a hundred years later in parts of Europe and don't really penetrate the German fencing world...
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  15. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    No, it just requires the "private donor" to donate a weapon in the museum called Rapier in the 15th century century German Style, probably made in the 18th or 19th century. Which, by the way, is a period of time in which historical knowledge of weaponry was weak and beset with all sorts of...
  16. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    That's just the title. The entry reads This is not a 16th century weapon.
  17. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    I definitely feel like the swashbuckling pirate, upon encountering the dragon, should feel a little under-dressed and under-armed. Maybe stick with the musket pistol during that encounter, if you can get someone to play forward.
  18. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Actually it says "espada ropera" which is the linguistic root I noted above, literally means "sword for dressing," and in that era would have referred to a sidesword (spada de lato, in the Italian parlance). That was a transitional weapon that was used in early modern fencing; the rapier derived...
  19. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Bush people still hunt them for meat, using blowguns, traps, and spears.
  20. pawsplay

    D&D General The rapier in D&D

    Well, yeah. I've never held double chicken sabers, but just about anything other than that. Well, I have touched but not lifted a gada (heavy Indian mace). Weapons are kind of a thing for me. I do acknowledge the 3e double scimitar would be worse, because the spinning beanie scimitar is worse...
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