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The only real difference now is that a wizard gets such a wide variety of spells to choose from over a Sorcerer. There isn't really any reason to play a Wizard otherwise...I did see the original test for Favored Soul and IMHO it was broken. Giving Sorcerers additional spells, even just spells...

Um, why can't spells cast with subtle spell be countered?

I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you trying to say a wizard should be able to have less spells prepared each day and a sorcerer should have more? There would be no reason to take a wizard than, ever.

I think he was asking where do you go all the wizard spells. Obviously you can get drops from scrolls as treasure, but if you battle another wizard, boom, you get their spell book and all the spells they can cast are now yours. You can also purchase scrolls in addition to the two a level you...

I understand but don't you think a Diviner with the luck feat is just as broken?

I did see that, it was a contender. I think I really want to go Wizard now though, but this would have been my choice for Sorcerer.

Yes, those are some of the reasons why I absolutely love the idea of taking the loremaster but at the diviner is second place close Contender and some people brought up some really good and interesting ideas for The Illusionist and enchanter

That's a perfectly valid point. The party is not very big and negotiations and role-playing it is more of a hack and slash campaign. I actually substitute damned one step repair for Gen Con cuz I was running an event out there and it had a lot more role-playing elements in the adventure and some...

I did find a list somewhere that had the Spells at the sorcerer knows that the wizard doesn't in the supposed wizard knows that the sorcerer doesn't and I did post that above. I do like me some fun combos with I think the problem is that as soon as you get a really fun combo off if it breaks the...

Still only counts as one 😜

I know what I like about the loremaster class but what do you like about it that you think it's no contest?

I am currently favoring the idea of Diviner or Lore Master so I can change spell damage into Radiant and increase the DCs of my spells, I like having high DCs...I like fun tricks though to, so right now I am open to ideas.

Sure, okay, I don't want to be that guy that does all the party buffing. That's not fun. Sure, I don't mind making the Rogue invisible on occasion, but I don't want my only combat role to be buffing other party members...same goes for healing, not my cup of tea. I do love options, which is...

I kind of dismissed this one because power surge is so crap, but I'll take another look.

Well, technically, right now I am playing a 2 Warlock/6 Sorcerer Drow Elf, so I can convert spell points into slots and gain limited Warlock spell slots back to convert into more sorcerer points, but the process is slow and the DM and party doesn't like to take short rests for some reason...

I currently have one feat for the sorcerer I am playing and it is ritual caster. So worth it, but I think I'm going Wizard for the spell selection, just need to narrow it down to Diviner, Illusionist, Lore Master, evoker (although I am shying away from this) or Enchanter.

I have to see if he'll go for the tiefling, that is on my list. I don't get hit a ton because I am rather good at positioning myself away from danger, or currently, I am using Darkness with devil sight to avoid danger, but that will change.

Ooo, I definitely want a +2 Sex bonus, lol :P. I did look at the Gnome and I hate Gnomes, but that is my problem...still, a +2 INT bonus is nothing to dismiss...maybe a could be a really tall almost human-sized Gnome. :) I was thinking variant human for the feat. The problem as I see it would...

Good insight. I am leaning towards Diviner or Lore master, but I'll give Enchantment and illusion a second look.

Nope, definitely not sarcasm. I love your break downs and that is how I learned what a beast that 2 Warlock plus Sorcerer can be. So, because you have a lot of insight because you have broken down so many of these classes I value your input.