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  1. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    @AlViking, you wanted an example of fail forward from an actual D&D game, so here goes, from last night's game. Preface: I have no idea if the GM adheres to fail-forward principles or not. I know they've run 5e, but I'm not sure they've run anything else, or even fully read any PbtA material...
  2. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No. They're guidelines, goals, and the most common things you'll do. That's far from useless. That's far more useful information than you'll get in, say, the 5.14 DMG. OK. Do you understand that most gamers make at least a very minimal map? Personally, I found my games to be a lot more...
  3. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes, different people run games differently.
  4. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No, I read them quite thoroughly.
  5. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Except that a reason you don't like narrative games is something that has been a part of D&D forever. Like, literally since it stopped being purely a wargame. So why is it that you're fine with narrative triggers in D&D but not in other games? The only actual difference is that they're labeled...
  6. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Um, combat has an explicit fictional trigger in D&D. That trigger is some in-game event that causes the PC or NPC to want to attack, followed by that PC or NPC saying "I attack." In fact, tons of stuff in D&D has an explicit fictional trigger. If the party encounters a locked door and the...
  7. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    OK? It's not meant to be exhaustive or exclusive. I would hope that when you describe your world, you at least try to make the descriptions a bit interesting and engaging. Unless your goal is to be as bland as possible. They mean world maps, not encounter maps. As in, you don't need to fill in...
  8. Faolyn

    Dungeons & Dragons Shifts to Franchise Model, Dan Ayoub Named as Head

    Hey, you don't need kids as an excuse to buy a stuffy!
  9. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Nope. As @Thomas Shey said, carrot, not stick. But also, I'd imagine that most of the time, the players don't rely on this move all the time. There've been times when one player of mine has tried to convince another one of something and I've suggested the move, and they've said no. So for many...
  10. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think the difference in the actual rules would mean that there would be big changes. But wth that in mind, you can use a very similar mindset.
  11. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So why is it unwelcome to you? What exactly on those lists would actually prevent you from running the way you like to run? What on those lists are you not already doing as a GM?
  12. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    They don't get the XP and +1, but aren't otherwise punished or hindered.
  13. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that there are no actual walls that don't also exist in D&D.
  14. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In Root, there's Plead With A PC, in which you get to ask another PC to do something, and if they agree, they clear 1-exhausiton. In Masks, there's Provoke Someone. If used on a PC, you can either add a Team to the Pool if they agree, or cause them to mark a condition if they refuse (or both...
  15. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I wasn't talking about Traveller or Pendragon. Although considering how old both those games are, it's no wonder they didn't think about player consent.
  16. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So: As a GM, you're (generic you're) going to act certain ways. But also, you don't want to see those ways written down. This makes no sense. OK, look at the GM role, principles, agenda, etc., from Dungeon World. Just about every single thing here is something that's done in standard...
  17. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don't think Micah is running sandboxes.
  18. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    In Monster of the Week, there's a move called Manipulate Someone. It can be used on another PC. If the manipulator succeeds on their roll, the target PC can choose to agree to be manipulated. If they agree, they get an XP and +1 forward. If the manipulator fails, the target PC gets an XP if they...
  19. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    No, these are completely different things. Having a penalty to a roll is not the same thing as being forced to act in a particular way, nor does it force a narrative. Among other things, you aren't being forced to attack them or anyone else. You could literally just say "you're too annoying to...
  20. Faolyn

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Because they're new to you. Because if you actually read the books thoroughly, you'd see they aren't actually restrictions, and they're certainly not any different from what a D&D GM does. What they are is a description of your role as GM, codified in a way that previous games rarely did...
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