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Ironically this offers a good source of distinction. When a 'modern' game has lots of players or releases it is a victim of a syndrome. A fad. When a 'traditional' game has lots of players or releases it is popular. Quality.

Literally the post I responded to said that the points exist in the fiction

You don't get to determine what the conversation is about, and force all discussion into your false binary. You have spam responded to me with the same nonsense post about five times now. I would appreciate it if you would stop. My position is that hit points and force points do not exist in the...

I have to drink quite a lot just to get through the day at work, some of my passengers get really upset about it

XXX Peaks, I've seen it on HBO late at night

I'm not talking about metacurrency. You are. I'm talking about whether force points and hit points exist in the setting. I say that they do not. You say that they mathematically model something within the fictional world. I say that they do not.

If the rule is that the DM can override any other rule, then 'the DM decides' is the only rule, and everything else is just guidelines.

YOU CANNOT HAVE A MEANINGFUL CAMPAIGN IF STRICT ATTENDANCE RECORDS ARE NOT KEPT. Gary Gygax, probably

You keep talking to me about meta and I've never once mentioned the word. Hit points literally exist in the setting? They are mathematical constructs in the game world? It is an observable phenomena that people have a set amount of health based on their observable constitution and profession...

You keep answering questions I haven't asked. Do hit points exist in the game world, yes or no? Do force points exist in the game world, yes or no?

A giant utopian dome, that's definitely how I would characterise this place. But oh, the tyranny of the mods! And their relentless march of progress!

You think hit points exist in the fiction as well? 'I'm down to my last few hit points' is something that one character would say to another inside the game world and be understood?

Do you think that Force Points exist in the fiction of the game?

You guess incorrectly. I know all of this. The way they work in the game does not represent the way the Force works in the setting.

Yeah as has been said I think clearly in the setting the Force exists but I don't know that the points do. To my mind Force use is more like a skill check in that we see new practitioners struggling to do things (think: Luke trying to pull his lightsabre when trapped by the wampa) while...

Fantastic post! Good sentence structure, direct without being brusque, insightful, and very apposite. I think I just learned something important not just about the subject but also about the author, and for a cat you are truly unique. Thank you. ;)

Yeah, I always look both ways on one-way streets, I imagine that if I'm ever at risk of getting run over it will be by someone not fully compliant with the highway code

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I'm not sure it should be impossible.

I would normally think of 'modern mechanics' as those coming after the forge and 'system matters'. So, not necessarily narrativist leaning, but having a sense of intentionality about creating a particular effect from the game rules, and not necessarily sticking to tradition for its own sake. I...