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Wow. Really? Saying that a DM is bad based on subjective criteria is equivalent to racism? Seriously? And, what strangers? The people judging the DM's performance are that DM's players. Where does the notion of judging strangers come into the equation? Or did I completely misunderstand...

How do you define "bad" then? I define bad as "below average". 🤷 If you're on the left side of the bell curve, that means you need to improve to be "average". Thus, at this moment, you are bad at whatever that bell curve is measuring.

And, I would take this a step further. The number of obnoxious vs fearful DM's is exactly the same. Just that lots of us don't run into them regularly because we rarely get to play. Well, that, and we've now apparently redefined bad to only mean malicious and not inept or inexperienced...

And, so, we're back to blaming players. A player cannot possibly know if a DM is good or bad. Any player who voices such an opinion can be discounted because their opinion is meaningless? Guess what? We judge performances based on subjective opinions ALL THE TIME. Ever read a restaurant...

ROTFLMAO. ANyone on the "downward slope" of the bell curve (at least the side that is literally not as good as average) is somehow not "bad"? I really don't think you understand what a bell curve is. But, yeah, this is pretty par for the course. Simply redefining commonly understood, plain...

Case in point. How can something be "not bad" when they are literally bad at something?

That is literally the definition of bad.

Holy threadomancy. To reply to a post from almost TWENTY years ago, to say that?!? LOL

No. That's just... no. There are tons of DM's out there that are bad at the game. Not because they are abusing women or remaining in gangs. :erm: Not every bad DM is a jerk. Most are just inexperienced or just haven't learned how to be good DM's yet. Or do you believe that good DM's...

But, the same is for DM's. Which means that there is a signficant number of gamers who run games who are not very good at it. Not out of malice or being bad people but, just inexperience. While you as 13 year old player might not be able to accurately identify the reasons for discontent, how...

Congratulations. I NEVER SAID THAT THERE WAS ANY CORRELATION. That's something you have, for some bizarre reason, added in that I never said. So. Yup. There is no correlation between the turnover of players in the hobby and the number of bad DM's in the hobby. I totally, 100% agree. You...

Again, you're simply presuming bad faith on the part of players that apparently players are incapable of differentiating between a mismatch in playstyles and someone who is actually a bad DM. It is utterly impossible for players to know the difference apparently. Only the godlike knowledge of...

Oh, absolutely. I agree. Again, at no point did I suggest that it was the quality of DM's that had anything to do with that. That's the bizarre spin that people seem intent on putting into my mouth. 🤷

Again, if all people were looking for was clarification, that would be different. But, EVERY SINGLE THING has to be endlessly dissected, chased down mutiple rabbit holes and then flog the expired equine endlessly. Again, seriously? 1 in 5 DM's is bad is a contentious take? Really?

That's not what I said. I said that people leave the hobby at about the same rate as people join the hobby. That's why the gaming population didn't grow for thirty years. Yet, the average age of gamers stayed pretty much the same - late teens, early 20's. So, unless a lot of us have somehow...

Umm, every single source for the past forty years or so? Why do you think that the gaming population stayed more or less static from about 1985 to 2014? If people weren't leaving the hobby as often as people join it, then the hobby population should have been growing. But it didn't. After...

No. What makes conversation very difficult is the endless quibbling and waffling over every single definition out there without any actual attempt to engage in discussion. FFS, is "Bad DM" really that hard to define? Good grief. I notice that you did manage to completely ignore the whole "1...

Think of any amateur hobby. Sports, creative, anything. Do you honestly believe that less than 25% of tennis players are bad? That less than 25% of miniature painters are bad? Heck, if 1 in 4 tips you over, let's say 1 in 5. 80% are middling or good, and 20% are bad. Seems like a pretty...

Why? Lots and lots of players will put up with TONS of bad DM's. The hobby is replete with stories about them. Some put up with it because they just don't know any better. Some put up with it because they want to hang out with their friends. Heck, of the times I've seen player revolts, it...

Sigh. It never occured to me to use the Search Forums feature. I tried using Google. Well, I learned something today. Thanks. :D 👍