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But, again, that's the point. People are complaining about "Humans in funny suits". But, if I make a "sport" that has no community, no culture, no history, how am I not just a funny looking human? You can't have characters with deep history and connection to the setting without actually...

I think your first point is spot on. Not being too precious about "respecting canon". I mean, in this thread there's been repeated points about tieflings not being a "species" in the sense that they have tiefling families and such. But, that ignores things like Baldur's Gate 3 where tieflings...

Just to add to this. Any later element, particularly 2024 D&D elements you add to Greyhawk typically don't have enough depth in the setting because you've got forty or fifty years of the setting already. It's a very thin veneer to add, say, Warlocks to Greyhawk since none of the NPC's in the...

Actually, I've done the rotating DM thing and it can be a ton of fun. Very episodic, of course, but, still a ton of fun. TBH, that's how I started. The four or five of us that were learning to play all took turns running games. It was years before I'd actually met a group that had a...

Attention spans of mildly concussed gerbils? :D

Can I move to where you live? Pretty please? :p

Like I said, this is certainly my experience. If the DM says, "Let's do X", without fail, players will want to be the "exception to X". And the worst part is, it's inconsistent. I gave up on trying to really deep dive into setting. It just wasn't worth the squeeze. So, I ran a Spelljammer...

Now this I totally agree with. It's 100% not done out of malice. I'm very sure that most of the players that I've dealt with over the years wouldn't dream of doing this out of spite. I think largely what happens is that players often get a concept in their head that they want to play. The DM...

While I don't think it's limited to online play, I do think you have a strong point here. I wonder if the difference isn't online/offline, but rather, playing with friends/playing with strangers?

And, just as a point, here's a thread from 2006, talking about exactly this: https://www.enworld.org/threads/grounding-players-in-a-setting.172483/

I'm really not following how right or wrong enters into this? We're talking about play preferences. Are you saying my play preferences are wrong? And, in case anyone thinks I'm ragging on my current crop of players, that's very much not true. I remember back in the early 2000's, running a...

Heh. The flaming sphere thing is actually pretty easy because it's not a monster. Which is why I adore the new 2024 summoning spells. SOOOO much easier to run. But, that's the point. You're coming in at the tail end of all of this. Phandelver, other than "please be something from Forgotten...

One guy? What's that like? Me? I've spent years with experiences far closer to @DammitVictor than not. From the player in a high concept, post-humanist SF game who wants to play an Amish luddite in the group of high tech robot people, bioengineered spacers and the like, to players who, as a...

The funny thing about milestones, from my own experience, is that xp or milestones don't really make a whole lot of different. The party levels up at exactly the same rate. I mean, look at this thread, most of us can ballpark how many sessions it's going to take to hit level 4 before play has...

LOL. And sometimes you unblock someone and discover that they are still stalking you several years later. Some people really, really have a tough time letting things go.

Wow. That's not frustrating. I made exactly those arguments a while ago. And by exact, I mean that you're quoting the same stuff that I quoted. I got absolutely dogpiled by the same people who are agreeing with you. :erm:

Nope. They don't. There are exactly ZERO dragonborn in Greenest. That's the problem. But, yeah, I'm getting the feeling that people are just arguing with me rather than the points I'm making, so, I'll be bowing out now. You all have a good day now. It's rather a shame that a perfectly...

So, because you have no known biological relatives, it is impossible for everyone to have them? e

And I said exactly that. Making stuff up is not really a problem. I am capable. Thanks. But, the point is, the background that is made up is 100% generic because you can't actually have any history in that place without rewriting that place, and I'm not the DM. It's not like I can...

If you think it takes air travel to travel the world in less than months, well, I don't really know what to say. But, again, being able to be from "parts unknown" is perfectly fine. No problems. But, that should not be the ONLY option for a PHB PC. Those people in Surrey have families and...